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"Assuming to diplomacy" Small typo. Would be good to fix it.

Really? Mr. Slave? You're saying Rylde sticks small animals in himself, one of which is Paris Hilton?

fixed.

So Gnilraps you quote something Rylde said after receiving the terms as reasoning for giving the terms in the first place? Your time line has a problem.

This is not the first time he has done so, either.

The sheer amount of revisionism, deceit and hypocrisy in this interview is mind-boggling.

RYLDE 4 CP 4 LIFE.

I did not revise anything in this interview. The most I did was link the term "vituperative" to a dictionary site given that some may not know the meaning of the word.

In all honesty, all I did was ask questions and copy/paste the answers. No deceit in that.

You are not the revisionist, Dylan. All of those things were directed at your head of state. It is simply unfortunate that you believe any word that falls from his mouth.

I trust him to the extent that he has earned my trust. If he makes a crazy claim, I will be skeptical, but all of what he has said is plausible enough to justify believing at face value. Extreme claims require extreme evidence, but the claims Gnilraps makes are by no means extreme.

"all of what he has said is plausible enough to justify believing at face value." - Therein lies the problem.

"we were answering Rylde's Vituperative insults with terms that, while they were not as coarse in language, were at least as coarse in content. Should Rylde really be surprised that the people he insulted publicly returned to him with terms that were somewhat less than desirable?"
Where in there does it say that the terms came before the insults? It actually says that Rylde offered ridiculous and vulgar terms, to which the eUSA gov't counter-offered ridiculous but non-vulgar terms.

Anyway, he didn't actually verbatim quote Rylde anywhere. He said that Rylde made vituperative insults, nothing more.

Gnilraps must have a TARDIS hidden somewhere in the eWhite House. He plays fast and loose with the time line, when he doesn't fabricate things entirely. He would make a fine Time Lord.

I can has evidence that he lied about the order of events please?

"In our media, our trolling of Canada has been light-hearted..." - FALSE. Categorically false.

As to the order of events, it's really a chicken-and-egg thing. If you've been watching - and I have - one side will levy insults against the other, and then the other will return with more insults. The claim that these "terms" were offered as punishment for Rylde saying something personally insulting is abject oversimplification and spin-doctoring - this is what I mean by "playing fast and loose." You get half-truth spun (i.e. carefully structured with loaded words to imply deeper meaning) to match the administration's dogma, which sounds believable because it puts forth ideas that the eAmerican public would like to believe are true.

Rylde is plainspoken and occasionally says indefensible things. Granted. He insulted someone's dead mother once. Perhaps he deserves a proper scolding. But these terms do not punish Rylde alone - they insult every eCanadian, regardless of whether or not they were intended only to provoke a reaction. If your CP fully intended for Rylde to publish the terms, as he claims, then he has knowingly insulted all of us. And it is not just "snow and maple syrup jokes." He's telling us all that we should be whipped dogs begging for table scraps.

It is tragic that you cannot see this. I strongly encourage you to think more independently and keep a weather eye on your leaders. They are not the heroes they have been painted to be.

I can has less obnoxious way of asking for proof plz? Kthxbai.

It's a yes or no. Did Rylde offer the first insulting terms or not? If he did, then Gnilraps is justified. If not, then Gnilraps is unjustified and a liar. I am open to both possibilities. When you say "The claim that these "terms" were offered as punishment for Rylde saying something personally insulting is abject oversimplification and spin-doctoring" you might want to follow it with evidence that Gnilraps fired the first verbal shot. You did not. My demand for evidence stands.

The point, sir, is that the insult was not leveled at Rylde alone, but at all of eCanada. Your most recent "White House Press Room" paper has a number of insulting Canadian jokes, implying that we are stupid. Your CP's "terms" treat us all like second-class citizens (or slaves). What your media is doing now is the verbal equivalent of corpse-jumping. The evidence is ALL AROUND.

I call it a "chicken-and-egg argument" because it is essentially pointless who fired the first "jab" - it is a distraction from this main point. You could follow the trail of he-said-then-he-said all the way back to the first exchange, and it might lead you through years' worth of hate and vitriol. The first I became aware of any such hostility is when Wild Owl declared us hated enemies for unofficial comments made by others. Check his newspaper for that. I've no energy for a search for evidence to satisfy your curiosity, and at this point, it DOESN'T MATTER. Rylde is the scapegoat, and the "punishment" and insult is being levied on the eCanadian people. All of us.

Claiming that it was an attempt to punish Rylde for some past insult is a gross oversimplification. Because the "punishment" is not being suffered by Rylde alone. Had the terms been something like "Rylde must apologize for his crude remarks about this, this and this," it would be a different story. But those were not the terms offered.

The terms offered were deliberately unacceptable and insulting and offered no benefit to anyone, except inasmuch as it became clear that your government cannot/will not be reasoned with by the eCanadian people. Because they clearly do not respect us, and will not foster respect for us in their citizens. In fact, they actively encourage massive disrespect for eCanadians.

Your silver-tongued CP is very good at making these sorts of things sound much less vilifying than they truly are. I don't expect to change your entrenched mind, sir. Only to inform.

"Your most recent "White House Press Room" paper has a number of insulting Canadian jokes, implying that we are stupid." I'll grant you that. I didn't much like that section either.

"it is essentially pointless who fired the first "jab"" Not the first jab, just the first set of unacceptable and intentionally ridiculous peace offers.

"your government cannot/will not be reasoned with by the eCanadian people." Frankly, we can, we just don't want to, have no desire whatsoever to, and have no practical reason to. Asteria is too busy to help its little pals in LETO, and we can make damn sure it stays that way for a while.

"I don't expect to change your entrenched mind" Prepare to be blown away sir. You have offered a fresh perspective, and while I vehemently disagree with you on most things, there are some things which you have convinced me of, namely that our media is a bit too zealous with the Anti-Greelingada jokes.

I thrive on your vehemence.

Looks like he lies, manipulates, discredits people - how could anyone negotiate with such a person any deal?

NEEDS MORE GREELING!!!

It says Greelingada everywhere where it would say Canada. WTF more do you want?

I want more greeling

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/still-needs-more-greeling-2385842/1/20

well spoken gnil

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voted! and subs too.

If I can help, I will be please to do so.

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Canadians claiming that they have not been shooting personal insults at Americans since the start of the invasion.

priceless.

Who is this Valiant Thor everyone is talking about?

How many lies in such a small space...