[Mav] The Hype and the War
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Oct 29, Day 1439 | Article #56.0 | Tags: What the fuck is going on?
As you might have noticed, we are kinda in a 'war' with Thailand, which is to say we're getting wiped by them. Voluntarily.
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I've been quite supportive of Prabal & his team; if nothing (& they have done way more than nothing) their intention & heart has been in the right place; more so than many others before them. eIndia does need its regular 'shots in the arm' to 'stay alive' ... but question is, 'is this shot in the arm worth it?' What is the gain that is to come out of this war/wipe-out? And how DO we extract maximum gain out of it?
I say its worth only as much as we, all eIndians, make it. And as it stands now, besides our personal medals, NE bonus & accomplishments, we are nowhere near making any gains from it so far as the nation is concerned. I'll even go so far as to say, we suck as a nation.
Now for the average 'uninformed', I'll just highlight a few mostly-known-but-seldom-acknowledged 'facts'.
Fact 1: Thailand is run by Serbia.
Firstly, this is not Pakistan, which was backed by Serbia. This IS Serbia. Trust me when I say this, as I've been handling eIndian Foreign Affairs for more terms than I care to remember, this is not a case of 'lets wait for Serbia to be busy elsewhere, so we can win regions'.
Incidentally for some time now, I have been friends with some of the chaps who 'run things' in Thailand & I have it on good accord that Serbia would defend Thailand as they would an original region. If we still haven't got this through into our heads, now is a good time to do so.
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Fact 2: We are far-out damaged to even consider winning this 'war'.
As Hamturk's (bless his trollish soul) article so succinctly puts it, we don't stand a chance. Never did. Why? Refer to Fact 1.
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All Serbia needs to do in order to ensure we don't win is divert *only* 3 million damage out of its more or less 'reserve 500 million' - going by Hammy's figures.
Fact 3: Contrary to popular belief, we are not getting wiped
Yeah yeah, even as I've been saying 'getting wiped' I know for certain, we won't be. As I've told Prabal so many times to the extent that his eyes probably hurt seeing me say it - Thailand wants it damage EXCLUSIVELY for Serbia. Period. That is the reason they had declined from doing even a Training War when approached in the past, and even this war with us is essentially draining their damage from Serbia's battles. And they don't want that.
So, again ... we are not getting wiped. We will likely lose a few more regions (again, ones that will not affect our region bonuses - no matter what we say, we have to hand it to them, the ThaiSerbs are pretty honorable there), a few more days of 'fun' - more for them, than for us - then region returns and free RH medals, if one can beat the bots.
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So that leads me to the emphasis on Fact 4 & 5 ... Indian Armed Forces, if you want to get your act right, you don't have much time; before this war is closed out. Unless you want to NE them again or refuse to close the war - because then it would be just plain stupid.
We suck. Even at getting wiped!
Fact 4: We did not enter this war to win it, but to 'have fun'.
So what DID we go to war for? Now this question does have some rather cryptic answers. Without going into the 'secret plans for global
a) To provide some excitement to newbies.
b) To increase coordination within our Armed Forces.
Firstly, the two points go hand in hand in a way. As Zere aptly points out in 'Are we losing the war ... and eIndia?' - what has Not been going right for us in this war.
Simply put, there is no fun in getting wiped ONLY. The 'fun' is in coordinated hits, greater camaraderie, using this as a training exercise, showing the world what India can do with its 16-25 million damage output everyday, at least putting a concentrated EFFORT to win, no matter the result. Though it might seem contrary to what I said earlier about not having a chance of 'winning' the war - our victory lies not in just winning rounds - but holding out, making precision strikes in RW's, coordinating with ally soldiers/tanks and thus developing better contacts with them, etc ~ basically putting Indian Armed Forces on the map.
Fact 5: There is no central command or coordination AS YET.
As we can clearly see, there is no such thing. 4 battles down and I think 2-3 RW's & its still a complete mess. I believe #agni (private with password protect) was meant to be the coordination channel, with #india-fight (public) for dispatch to foreign and local soldiers. That is not how it is working now.
No IAF orders out & MU's have ZERO coordination. Yesterday, for example the MU orders & campaign were set to Maharashtra, whereas the hits were required for the 'region return' in Tamil Nadu RW. It was only a handful of us fighting there fending off the BH hunters. The fact that there weren't even enough soldiers to fend off against a few lame BH hunters was quite pathetic tbh.
Idk to what extent AHF & Marcos are functioning, but they are nowhere in sync - no universal dispatch system or even coordination between the Commanders or even with the MoD.
No Communication on War strategy There is a complete break-down of communication as far as strategy & even dispatch is concerned. No one has any idea how to go about it or what the dispatch amount for the day is supposed to be. Hemanathan & Mohan are the only ones at all doing any dispatch? Why can't others step up or have both our MU"s given up functioning?
Sharry had given a pretty decent idea of dispatching to newbies to help them level up faster. But there seems to have been no follow up on it.
Do the dispatch right! Get those heavy machinery out!!!
The idea is not just to criticize. As I said right at the beginning, Prabal & his team have got the intention right. But they can't do it on their own. This needs a concentrated effort from whole of India, if we want to bring out some good out of this 'war'.
Personal medals, Ne bonus, these things are easy to demand and work for. Working for eIndia - not so easy, but I can assure you, far more gratifying.
Yesterday I couldn't help but get pissed as I saw people just 'finishing off their food fights', hitting in rounds even as the wall was ON 75%!!! And this wasn't even for BH medals! And at other times, not a single soldier available even as the bar was below 50%. I've said this before and I'll say it again, if India doesn't unite for the sake of India, then our future is quite bleak & we don't even deserve to be on the map.
For the Government, our resident War strategist supremo, David aptly lays out the 'perfect plan' to turn this current disaster of a war into a 'victory'. I suggest you look into it and implement them to the letter. Our MoFA, SVV has already been handed over a free MU for the Indian Special Forces. In tandem with that and David's ideas - I strongly advise that you get this party started!!!
Can this war be turned into a fun affair for all?
Yes we can!
She definitely can party as well!!!
On a different note, I had been saving up on my bazookas & energy bars for the day I would have to blow off some steam. Thankfully today was a lucky day. While I was never one to play for medals much, fighting in battles is quite fun. Especially when it comes to your first BH, CH & RH in 1 day ... and without having to spend a single gold for it.
At the outset, I noticed Ifke & Skyhook had bid in the Tamil Nadu Resistance War & taking a chance I, and then on my suggestion, some friends of mine bid on the RW as well. Later it was confirmed that it indeed Was a region return & thus a guaranteed (first!) Resistance Hero medal.
Armed with 28-29 bazookas & some 14-15 energy bars in stock, and pissed at the lack of soldiers present to even defend against opposition BH hunters, i went on a rampage in the 2nd round, only to end up with my first Battle Hero, soon followed by my 2nd BH in the 6th round - while beating off a 8.5+k tank with a difference of 408 influence between us! Of course by then it was pretty certain I had clinched the (again, first!) Campaign Hero as well.
Incidentally I also ranked up to Field Marshall** and will be getting to 4.5k str tomorrow. All in all, a good day I'd say. \m/
Your MavoPissedAsHell,
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Git it right, India.
~hyuu~
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luph girl 😘
\o/ Congrats on the BH, CH and RH
dispate is one of the worst part of this game, and trust me no one can do it constantly.
and if its REAL WAR, then you can see that its pain in @@@ particularly small nations.
btw congrats for your medals . : P
Don't worry, keep at it, fight better your army and coordination, try new things, if/when things become too hard, you have friends you can count on 😉
All Hail Mav,
I agree with most of the points u mentioned above, I would like to clarify the MU co-ordination stuff here.
There has been an agreement with MoD that all MU should follow MoD orders I beleive it happened in first initial days of the agreement like getting orders from MoD and setting the MU order accordingly.
After the start of Indo-Thai war(Indo refers to India, Not indonesia ), it is obvious that we had to set the order to our own battle point. We have been doing that till yesterday perfectly except for one or two incident where people setting MU order on their own without taking consent of Mohan(Minister of Defence).
Mohan, You need to update the battle orders article regularly which has been missing for past few days.
co-ordination between AHF and Marcos doesnot depends on whole MU rather, it lies with few indujuvals w.r.t war influence.
Honestly this is where we fail, we have better co-ordination of not impeding others BH hunting(at times we fail here too), we are not concentrating on putting collective damage which can put substantial influence in the battle. This is could be clearly seen in some mini battles, where influence difference between BH and second of a particular MB goes beyond 350K or more than that.
This is where we need to bring that co-ordinaton between indujuvals. This is where questions raised by newbies"Why are we loosing to Thailand. Are we not strong enough to defend our region".
From my point of view, I would say AHF commanders are co-ordinating with MoD in all possible ways. Ever since, relaunch of Food dispatches from AHF, we are preplexed to see the poor response from newbies/indujuvals. We expected around 10-15 AHF soldiers to get dispatches everyday but there are only 6-8 members getting it on average. If we start dispatching weapons, probably we might see more response. Need to explore on this.
During important battles, I took initiative of PM'ing AHF tanks to concentrate on particular battepoint rather than doing it their own. I'm sure Mohan is aware of this.
I dont have any idea about MARCOS co-ordination, hence I leave it here.
I agree, we need to regulate the Govt. dispatch. Till now, it is kept in dark. There is no official communication about govt. dispatching weapons to indujuvals although it happens. Not many are aware of this. It has to be notified in the war room.
Yesterday missetting of campaign of the day, I beleive there was a mis-communication or non-availablity of CP and MoD.
Im sure Prabal/Mohan has explanation on this.
I thought of explaining this in an separate article. But my laziness overtook my activeness. sorry 😉
Just to clarify some of those points...
a. Fact 1 & 2 - I think it is very well known by all of us...
b. We wanted to do it for fun and also to build co-ordinated hitting...
I guess, in terms of activity, it was much more than before with more people writing on articlesw (troll or not), it is activity.. so thats fine... and also people have achieved their personal goals - which do matter in india's context...
c. co-ordinated hitting
I have sent messages to the top tanks of india asking them to come together (they make 60% of the damage of india).. None of them but 2 bothered to respond... I do not blame them as they do have their lives...
The first round, i remember setting order for >2k until asked for not to fight in IRC, no one follows orders and the big guns just fire out...
When we can't co-ordinate with the top guns, 40% damage of the rest does not matter as they will loose their confidence when their efforts are not pushing up the bar, especially when someone throws a 3Mn damage on the other side...
The problem is irrespective of the efforts one can put into the game...
All in all, it was good that we took a radical step (not again with a training war shit)
and unless the top guns are sold on the co-ordinated hitting, it is quite difficult...
As with the orders, after I started writing the IAF orders, there has been only 6 new subscribers to it,
regarding the setting of campaign of the day... When Ifke and skyhook had also supported the RW, the region return will anyway happen.. even if Mav did not hit, it would have been someone who would have done it, coz it is a region return...
Meh. 😃
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aww man cooooooooollll article. Voted hard. o7
Awesome article
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jovan pa izdajnik!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jovanpa mi kazao da lupim da je izdajnik xD!
jovan pa TRAITOR of Thai Empire!!!
I read the first part, thats good enough! xP
Heheh
dont forget to invite me in the party, i love hot girls .. o/
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mogambo izdajnik : D
abortus pa-pa....
Jovanpa mi kazao da lupim da je izdajnik xD!