EDEN Manifesto
Wallachian
This is a continuation of my previous article in which I was expressing my disaproval with the EDEN HQ and CPs regarding the Turkish matter. I won`t spend to much time with it. If you like you can read the whole story here. As a short resume, the way Turkey was invited to join our brotherhood was a spat in the face to all EDEN members who had to go through a serious trial in order to join, and a slap to some EDEN members (especially Bulgaria, Greece and Israel) who have RL and in-game issues with this country. If EDEN members can`t trust their own alliance not to betray them then something is rotten, and not necesarily in Denmark.
The point of this article is reform. As surprising as this sounds, this move which is shacking EDEN from it`s core might be the best chance (and maybe the only one we get) to change EDEN from bottom up. This crisis can be the best thing which happened to EDEN because now we can clean the past and start anew.
Stupefiying the masses
In the previous article I tapped onto how Turkey is not EDEN material and how thy don`t belong here. That is still a big problem, but not the biggest. Our problem is the decision factors from EDEN who didn`t give a sh!t about what the people want and just followed their agenda. I was saying how one influential EDEN tank supported by 3-4 people from the EDEN HQ or graviting in the area have made a decision in the name of 14 eWorld countries without even previously asking them. I don`t know how would you call such a politic system, some might call it dictatorship. I call it noobism.
After they forcefully shove Turkey down our throats they started with the pro-Turkish propaganda feeding us statements like "this way we don`t spend any RL money" to which I can only LOL. Nobody forced you to spend RL money in an online games in the first place. Use your brains and find better lies if you want to stupefy the masses. Or even better, tell them the truth: "We want to win at all costs!"
So the main reason why we are in this hole, why so many EDEN citizens are feeling estranged now, and now there`s internal turmoil inside our brother countries Bulgaria and Israel, is simply because of how this alliance is ruled. We have an EDEN HQ formed by a few people: an SC, an MC and a few trainees, an EO, a PR, an ISD - all of them elected by EDEN CPs and a few Advisers which don`t change. Even elected, the HQ members many times remain the same, probably changing positions between themselves.
Even the so-called elections are not all the time for real. It`s enough for an influential EDEN person to start talking to the CPs to vote the candidate he wants.
Sometimes the CPs have no idea what is going on. Othertimes some CPs don`t even represent the will of the countries they represent because they won fraudulently. Some of them are completely noobs who don`t even know what EDEN is. What can EDEN tradition and history mean to a CP who is new ingame anyway? In this conditions it`s easy to have all CPs acting like a flock of sheep and electing the SC and the HQ as they are instructed to do and not the candidate who presents the best program.
So now you know how elections for HQ take place. It`s not hard to generalize a bit and apply it to how Turkey was brought in EDEN. Same thing happened in this case as well. The few who wanted Turkey in EDEN at all costs talked to each CP and convinced him of the advantages (or, more like the advantage because I don`t see anyother but the extra damage). Summit came, CPs voted like a flock in unanimity and the rest is history.
There`s a saying in my language, "fish goes bad from the head". So if we want to keep our EDEN, to survive and prosper, we need to change the way this alliance is ruled.
I left the EDEN HQ in the same night Turkey was invited to enter "trial". I been in the EDEN HQ from the start of November, the beginning of Octavius Julius`s mandate. I only came back in there because I knew OJ is a man of his word and a reformist.
However I been in the HQ last spring-summer for like 2 months as well. Back then I left for another reason, an inactive SC (Iaswn) and a half-dead HQ. Reforms were needed but there was nobody to do them and in case you actually opened your mouth to come with suggestions, the SC would make sure nothing gets done. You can read more on it here.
Why am I boring you will all that? Because I would like not only to say how the current EDEN leadership structure is a failure but also with an idea of how EDEN can be restructured. If it`s a good idea or not, that is up to you to decide:
Reform
The full idea is presented here
The over-state will have 1 Government and a number of Ministries.
On the 5th of the month, each country elects a new president. That president comes with a team: MoFA, MOD, Economics, Administration, etc. What we do is take ALL of the respective country`s ministers and give them a place as representatives in the EDEN Government.
The EDEN Government will have a number of Ministries according to what is needed in today`s New World. Each Ministry will be formed by the 14 national Representatives.
The Representatives elect a Minister. The elected Ministers will then take a seat in the Central Government.
Ministries will decide in the matters relevant to their domain. Ministry of War` Minister and Representatives will decide on the daily military strategy and so on.
Central Government will decide on more important matters which involve more than one domain. For example, Ministry of War can send the EDEN Army to fight somewhere but the finances required will be provided by the Ministry of Economics.
The EDEN HQ will remain as an administrative force, Police of EDEN, if you must, to make sure that rules are respected and that the structure is successful. In the future, it`s entire role can be rediscussed and even have it completely dissolved.
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200 days old ideas but which can represent a new beginning for EDEN. Of course I`m not saying there aren`t other ideas even better than this one so feel free to think things through and come with your suggestions. And afterwards talk to your Country President & government and demand that they change things in EDEN. Dont let a few influential players take decisions in your place. To make mistakes is human. For as long as one person will decide on a whole field of activity there will be error. For less error we need more people to think things through and take decisions.
The Turkish matter
Last article I said I have a big problem with Turkey and their dirty past and that for me they represent a stain on EDEN logo. This was provoked by the highly unethical mode in which they were invited in EDEN, with the infamous "one month trial" which breaks all EDEN past rules.
For me the only way this action can be "redeemed" is to have Turkey follow the same trail all the other EDEN countries did. A one month of normalizing relations with EDEN countries followed by 3 months in our branch - GEA and THEN full members of EDEN. That would be the respectful way to do it. That would show Turkey wants to be in EDEN and not that they came here just to fight ONE, or like many Turks commented lately "business is business". For hardcore EDEN soldiers, EDEN is not just "dirty business". If you want a brotherhood then follow all the steps in order to prove you are worth of EDEN. If not, be gone. I myself don`t give a rat`s ass about your extra damage or how you going to limit some tank`s credit card expenses. I care about the alliance born 2 years ago and I don`t want to see it close it`s eyes any time soon.
So my suggestion for all EDEN citizens and their country representatives is this: Because the damage has been done and Turkey was invited for this month trial, rename it in "normalizing" the relationship EDEN - Turkey, then let Turkey do the 3 months trial membership in GEA, like every other country interested in joining our alliance. In the end, even the toughest hardcore anti-Turkish EDEN citizen will agree that Turkey is a valuable member.
Remember what the Brotherhood of EDEN values used to be: Respect, Loyalty, Valour, Unity, Friendship and Sacrifice. Turkey has proved worthy of none of them so far. Let them prove they are EDEN material before bringing them in. If that doesn`t happen and in one month from now Turkey is voted for full EDEN membership, our only hopes is that an EDEN Country President will veto Turkey joining EDEN. This would be our last resort, our last hope of seeing our Garden of EDEN in full bloom this coming spring and not in full decay instead.
All hope is not lost. For as long as YOU, the reader of this article will keep fighting for your right, will keep fighting for an EDEN of popular unity and not an EDEN of a few "aristocrats", there is still hope.
What is EDEN?
EDEN is me, EDEN is you, EDEN is all of us!
You have the power!
Later edit:
In an interview made by Zmei Gorianin with the Turkish president, the later made public that the Turkish entrance in EDEN is "guaranteed".
Zmei Gorianin: What will happen if you do not join EDEN?
Fatih. Sultan. Mehmet: I do not think that there is no such an option. I know that we have 'guaranteed entrance'.
One more proof that the trial membership was a charade. Those who negotiated Turkey joining EDEN lied to the CPs present at summit. They voted for a trial that does not exist. Nevertheless they lied the Turks as well, giving them fake guarantees when the truth is that their joining EDEN can be vetoed at any time by a single EDEN country president.
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Comments
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Hey, I don't know if this will bring you a little bit of satisfaction but we in Bulgaria are having a great deal of discussins regarding this Topic (around 30 articles with hundred of votes maybe). Democracy is still alive therewere somwhere : )
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if I remember correctly (tell me if i'm wrong) - you had this same attitude towards INCI, and for a very long time after they went proEDEN.. and it turned out you were absolutely wrong...
so i hope the same will happen here..
but some reform in EDEN could be positive i guess...
votemaxx
1st don't talk like that about Romper, because he deserves respect for his work (for those who don't know him, he's much more than a mindless tank with lots of money)
He wants what's best for us all, it's just that it was done on the wrong way...
2nd Turkey should go through 3 month trial period and it's HQ's and CP's fault that happened, also governments did no propaganda on that matter which is big fail
3rd cool ideas for reform of EDEN, maybe someone will get to work and try something (the biggest problem in erepublik as in RL is that ppl are strong and loud when it's time to criticize but when they're needed to actually do something, there's no one around)
btw maybe it's time for EDEN to fall apart, so something can finally pull my trigger and get me out of this game...
I support Turkey joining EDEN, but they should join in a fair way. That is the only thing you anti-turkish EDEN citizens can complain about, and you are ABSOLUTLEY right about it.. But please stop those nationalist bu****ts.
1st don't talk like that about Romper, because he deserves respect for his work (for those who don't know him, he's much more than a mindless tank with lots of money)
He wants what's best for us all, it's just that it was done on the wrong way...
2nd Turkey should go through 3 month trial period and it's HQ's and CP's fault that happened, also governments did no propaganda on that matter which is big fail
3rd cool ideas for reform of EDEN, maybe someone will get to work and try something (the biggest problem in erepublik as in RL is that ppl are strong and loud when it's time to criticize but when they're needed to actually do something, there's no one around)
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Great article!
100% support!
Voted! Hope you will succeed this time : )
Your articles is a mixture of balor,punity,suckrafice,Peespect,Lowayty only words nothing behind it, write the truth we are alive because of Romper and Argrob.
Maybe run for SC?
ceva e in neregula tine, walla (:
Ernst has a half point there.
"I left the EDEN HQ in the same night Turkey was invited to enter "trial"." +1
Valour?you need valour in a browser game?Which risk you need to take?Your mom will spank you if you wont go to bed in time?
Sacrifice?What are you sacrificing?Your life?Romper spend a lot of money here for nothing meanwhile millions starving in the wolrd?Is that sacrifice or idiocy?
From what I've followe😛 I agree with the article.
eden is so boring community...
Radens, I meant no disrespect towards Romper. I had the opportunity to speak to him and I found how he is a good chat and a highly intelligent person. What I meant in the article was getting fed up with some propaganda I read lately in articles and comments about how having Turkey here means we will spend less money on Erepublik, and I know they copied it from Romper.
That was all.
@Ernst, so Romper should be the savior of starving children?
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V + S
lol i see alot of rl issues in this game...ALOT
It is hard to put the toothpaste back into the tube once it's out. The only realistic remedy to the situation is to cut short the trial period of the other members.
As for a new structure, I am skeptical anything would work except a change in the game mechanics.
Unless the Admins create some "Alliance Congress" hardwired in the mechanisms of the game, all the future decisions will be made just like they are made now: a few influential people will persuade everybody else to act one way or another.
On most of the occasions those influential people will not be in the formal structures of an alliance but they will still call the shots irrespective who is in the formal structures.
Right now the influential people are mostly the country presidents, the tanks and some players who are neither presidents nor tanks but who advise the presidents and who are personal friends of many tanks.
Only a radical change in the game mechanics would place the attack buttons and the ability to set the missions of the Military Units in the hands of the HQ of an alliance.
Until then every alliance would act based on the private agreements made by the country presidents, advised by the main tanks and by the influential players.
>Because the damage has been done and Turkey was invited for this month trial, rename it in "normalizing" the relationship EDEN - Turkey, then let Turkey do the 3 months trial membership in GEA, like every other country interested in joining our alliance.
Mihail,
What you saying is that there`s no possibility to create an enduring alliance in Erepublik because one ill intended person can destroy everything the others created. Then what`s the point?
About improving game mechanics, I think I`m more likely to see Santa Clause and the Eastern Bunny than that xD
Can current SC decide anything or he can only silent with smart view?
I know him in eUkraine and I say: NO.
Fuck EDEN. "Brotherhood" is dead. I'm no longer fighting in any EDEN battles, and neither do 90% of the Bulgarians.
EDEN - if you want help next time your core regions are screwed - call Turkey, let your new "brothers" help you.
You managed to eradicate the only alliance that was worth anything. Now we're just another bunch of traitor bots, who only fight for some pixels. Good job! Have fun, I don't consider myself being a part of EDEN anymore, and neither do 90% of the Bulgarian ePoppulation.
So fcuk EDEN.
Good article Wllachian, as always.
Pan always the paying custumers have words, and only romanian tanks and romper buy your victories.
Sando,
It`s not just Bulgarians mate. I see plenty of Ukrainians, Romanians, Israelis, Greeks and even Terra-members from Russia shouting their disapproval. And I fully agree with them. What is the point of fighting for an alliance who doesn`t even respect it`s own citizens?
So I hope EDEN as a whole will wake up until it`s too late.
Ironically, losing the support of so many EDEN soldiers will make the Turkish bonus count for nothing. And that only in the short term. Because in the long run EDEN will be no more. And when those who pulled the rabbit out of the hat will see the narrow mindness of their actions it will be too late.
@Wallachian:
I am saying the things will always be decided by the Country Presidents, advised by the people those Country Presidents trust (military commanders and tanks). That is exactly what happened in the case you complain about.
The only way to change that is by changing the game mechanics radically.
Any outside-the-game structure will have no real power as long as the Presidents have the "Attack" button and set the CoD and as long as the military commanders can set the daily orders for their units.
Out of the whole Turkish episode I see only one problem: the shortening of the 3 months period.
The fact X, Y or Z don't trust Turkey is irrelevant. X, Y, Z may be wrong, X, Y, Z might be right or X, Y, Z might have their own agendas. If Turkey is trustworthy or not is something only the future can show. X, Y or Z should sit and wait, just like everybody else.
EDEN survived the treason of Poland and Spain. What is the danger of _gaining_ a member?!
As for the "plenty" of those who are against, my perception is they are only very noisy, not in high numbers.
+1 mihail.cazacu
"Brotherhood" is dead.
fuck EDEN.
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The 25th hour of EDEN:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/eden-manifesto-1928339/1/20
BG: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-eden-translated--1928562/1/20
V
FAIL TURKEY
FAIL EDEN HQ
HAIL BULGARIA
Никога няма да се бия за Турция, при всяка възможност ще се бия против тях.
!!! България над всичко !!!
Great article and analysis!
I just would like to add that in Bulgaria only three people decided that we will support Turkey - noone else was informed - neither the Congress, nor the people. And those who decided - the president and two of his advisors we not authorized to do it!
As for the EDEN HQ - it is a private club of some very powerful figures and their puppets, who are regularly elected in the various positions, the elections are are everything but transparent!
no Turkey in EDEN!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/anglia-invadata-impeach-in-romania--1928410/1/20
xul0 impeach
Great article, bro!
I've linked it in my newspaper http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/1928481/1/20
Български превод тук - http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-eden-translated--1928562/1/20
Човекът се постара, дайте му по 1 вот !
+1 mihail.cazacu
ai ajuns un troll 🙁
partea buna e ca nu mai poti schimba nimic
Wellcome to EDEN, Turkey!
eTurkey should join Terra where it belongs
VOTED
It's not the problem of procedures or three months, or how HQ works, especially that except Portugal there's probably no other country which had exactly 3 months long trial period.
The reason why some people opposes the idea lies simply in Turkey. Narrow minded and stubborn people either use excuses or simply don't give a damn with childish bitching 'Pick: us or them'. It's Turkey - so what - each country has some 'darker' things and skeletons hidden in closet.
Main proof is that many of those who don't want Turkey in EDEN wouldn't have anything against them being in Terra. Rest is irrelevant bullshit and talking about past hostilities and wounds.
+1 mihail.cazacu
wise as always....
are you a Romanian in RL? I guess you are an armenian bcz of your nickname and thats why u hate Turks.
i dont know any problem of Romania with Turkey in RL also
@AttilaBleda: there are some Romanians, especially very fresh newcomers, who do have issues with Turkey - from the RL - and have a very poor understanding of the game. But these don't have much influence.
I hope it's the same in Turkey.
Turkey does not belong in the brotherhood, else the brotherhood is dead : (