Terra Crumbling Within - Stand With Brazil [EN/PT_UPDATE]
GloveisLove
UPDATE: Brozil has left Terra.
Good afternoon everyone,
I hope you are all enjoying your yourselves, I know I am, as I am writing this from my luxury resort in Orlando
🙂
Anyways, I have been informed of a very grave situation that has been ongoing in our own alliance, Terra. Terra was founded as an alternative to Eden and NWO (now ONE) and was meant to be independent of both, now we know that is not the case at all anymore. As a former president of eUSA and former Terra HQ leader, I think my input on this situation might be worthy of note.
Brazil, one of the original members of Terra, is currently discussing the very real possibility of leaving Terra.
Brazil's argument for leaving Terra are the following:
1) Terra HQ has belittled Brazilian demands, with the general consensus of current HQ leaders being that "Brazil has 100% bonuses, what are they complaining about?"
2) Romanian ptoers have infiltrated Brazilian politics, and neither Terra nor Eden have addressed the problem
3) French issue
100% Bonus--Terra or Brazil?
Just because a nation has 100% bonuses doesn't mean you forget about the nation and ignore their requests for new wars, battles, etc. Like Jazar said on the forum, just because you give your wife diamonds doesn't mean she'll be happy indefinitely. Judging by the responses of HQ leaders on the forum and from past experiences, I don't think Brazil is being treated with the mutual respect it deserves and they have the right to be upset.
Well actually, if you look at the map, Brazil has 100% bonuses for a simple reason, they are surrounded by smaller & weaker countries which they can conquer for easy resources, such as ePeru, and really, I don't see Terra HQ sending much support to conquer those small nations, its mostly been Brazilians fighting for their bonuses.
Romanian Ptoers:
Romanian ptoers have long infiltrated Brazil's politics, and this has been a point of growing frustration, as the ptoers are suppose to be from allied nations but they continue to win congress seats and accept more ptoers, and no one in HQ to my understanding has condemned the action and Romania has not done anything about it except say "well we can't control them."
On the French issue:
The general sentiment is that Brazil tolerates France simply because of eUSA's relationship with it. There's a few reasons for this sentiment, for example France asked Brazil to break a NAP and hence their word with Spain thus making them look like trash, and in return Brazil didn't get much reciprocation, if any from France, so Brazil feels that they were forced to do something that they didn't want to do nor got anything from. And it is not just a one time occurence, France has repeatedly asked Brazil to break their NAP and when a country breaks their promised NAPs with other nations, well it just discredits that nation's honor and credibility throughout the eWorld and smears their good name, so understandibly Brazil is upset, especially since France hasn't really returned the favor on the battlefield either.
Spain:
In addition, Spain, once one of our closest allies and now our enemy, has expressed its unhappiness with ONE and is discussing other possibilities. Such a possibility is creating an "anti-Euro" styled alliance, or like a West vs East type of alliance, I guess. I don't know how exactly I feel about this, being from eUSA, and a Dioist, I can say I don't particularly care for eSpain but I don't consider them an eternal enemy, and this is coming from someone who trolled them relentlessly, but meh, I don't hate them, I just love trolling people
🙂but I certainly don't trust them. So I don't know what to say about this except for that it is up to what Brazil in the end decides to do. A Spain+BR+Arg+USA & other alliance would be interesting but a lot of trust and other obstacles would need to be passed.
The Possible Outcomes & Demands that need to be met:
Regardless of outcome, I hope future eUSA presidents agree with me and will stand by Brazil like I do.
In summary, Brazil basically said they didn't want dermont or his team (including Kev, the current SG) in HQ or they would leave the alliance.
Dermont and Kev both are people I consider friends are mine, but there is obviously a sentiment that Terra HQ is ignoring Brazil, so the must regime must change if there is to be any hope of solving this problem.
I honestly believe that failure to meet these demands will leave to the destruction of Terra. Brazil is clearly upset about the way HQ has treated them and belittled them. Terra has the bad habit of pretending problems don’t exist and that in the end everything will fix itself.
This is terribly wrong.
If HQ continues to ignore this issue, we will have another Argentine-Chile crises, in where we will for sure be losing another ally and making the alliance irrelevant. Brazil, if it leaves, I know will continue to work closely with those who work closely with them, I don’t think they will switch sides like Bulgaria did (although Bulgaria had plenty of justification to switch sides as well, as Eden HQ gave them a similar treatment), so I cannot be 100% sure.
However, if Brazil leaves, it is my official recommendation that the eUSA leave Terra as well, because it is at that point that it will be clear that Terra is no longer an alliance, but rather friends in name only.
Signed,
GloveisLove
Boa tarde à todos,
Eu espero que vocês estejam se divertindo, eu sei que eu estou, já que estou escrevendo isto de um resort de luxo em Orlando.
De qualquer maneira, eu tenho sido informado de uma grave situação acontecendo em nossa aliança, Terra. Terra foi fundada como uma alternativa à EDEN e NWO (agora ONE) o que significaria sermos independentes de ambas, agora nós sabemos que não é o caso de forma alguma. Como um e
😜residente e antigo líder do HQ da TERRA eu penso que minha visão dessa situação seja digna de nota.
Brasil, um dos membros originais da Terra, está atualmente discutindo uma possibilidade muito real de sair da Terra.
O argumento do Brasil para sair da Terra são os seguintes:
1) O HQ da TERRA tem menosprezado as demandas dos brasileiros, o consenso geral dos atuais lideres do HQ da TERRA são de que "O Brasil tem 100% dos bônus, do que eles estão reclamando?".
2) Os ptoers romenos tem se infiltrado na politica brasileira e nem a Terra nem a Eden tem dado atenção ao problema.
3) O problema com a França
100% de bônus - Terra ou Brasil?
Só porque uma nação tem 100% de bônus não significa que você deve se esquecer dela e ignorar seus pedidos por novas guerras, batalhas e etc. Como Jazar disse no fórum, só porque você dá diamantes a sua esposa não significa que ela ficará feliz indefinidamente. Julgando pelas respostas dos lideres do HQ no fórum e por experiências passadas, Eu não acho que o Brasil está sendo tratado com o respeito mutuo que eles merecem e eles têm o direito de estarem chateados.
Bem, na verdade se você olhar no mapa, o Brasil tem 100% dos bônus por uma razão simples, eles estão cercados de países menores e mais fracos que eles podem conquistar os recursos facilmente, países como o Peru por exemplo, e realmente, eu não vejo o HQ da Terra mandando suporte para conquistar essas nações pequenas, em sua maioria são os brasileiros que tem lutado por seus bônus.
PTOers Romenos:
Os PTOers romenos tem se infiltrado na politica brasileiro a um longo tempo e isto tem sido um ponto de crescente frustração, já que os ptoers são supostamente de nações aliadas mas continuam a ganhar as eleições para o congresso e aceitar mais ptoers e ninguém do HQ, no meu entendimento tem condenado essa ação e a Romenia não fez sobre isso exceto dizer "bem, nós não podemos controlar eles"
Quanto ao problema francês:
O sentimento geral no Brasil é que o Brasil tolera a França simplesmente por causa de suas relações com os EUA. Existem algumas razões para esse sentimento, por exemplo a França já pediu para o Brasil quebrar seu NAP e consequentemente sua palavra com a Espanha e deste modo fazendo eles parecerem lixo, e em troca o Brasil não recebeu muito em retorno, senão nada da França, então o Brasil se sentiu sendo forçado a fazer algo que eles não queriam fazer, nem ganhariam nada com isso. E isso não aconteceu apenas uma vez, a França pediu repetidamente para o Brasil quebrar seus NAPs e quando um país quebra sua promessa de NAP com outras nações, bem, isso faz sua honra e credibilidade caírem em descredito pelo eMundo todo e mancha seu bom nome, então compreensivelmente o Brasil está chateado, especialmente desde que a França não tem retornado o favor nem mesmo no campo de batalha.
Espanha:
Em acréscimo, a Espanha, uma vez um dos nossos aliados mais próximos e agora nossa inimiga, tem expressado sua infelicidade com a ONE e discutido outras possibilidades. Tal como a possibilidade de criação de uma aliança no estilo "anti-Europa", como Leste vs Oeste, eu acho. Eu não sei como exatamente me sentir sobre isso, sendo dos EUA, e um Dioista, eu posso dizer que particularmente eu não me importo com a eEspanha, mas eu não considero eles um inimigo eterno, e isto está vindo de alguem que trollou eles incansavelmente, mas meh, eu não odeio eles, eu apenas amo trollar as pessoas
🙂mas eu certamente não confio neles. Então eu não sei o que dizer sobre isso exceto que cabe ao Brasil decidir o que fazer. Um Espanha+BR+EUA+Arg & outra aliança seria interessante mas muita confiança e outros obstáculos precisariam ser atravessados.
Os Possíveis Resultados & Demandas que se precisa conhecer:
Independente do resultado, eu espero que os futuros presidentes dos EUA concordem comigo e continuem ao lado do Brasil como eu faço.
Resumindo, o Brasil basicamente disse que eles não querem o dermont e sua equipe (incluindo Kev, atual SG) no HQ ou eles sairiam da aliança.
Eu honestamente acredito que o fracasso em acatar essas demandas irá causar a destruição da TERRA. O Brasil claramente está chateado com o modo que o HQ tem tratado eles e menosprezado eles. [/b]A TERRA tem o péssimo habito de fingir que os problemas não existem e que no fim tudo irá se resolver por contra própria[/b].
Isso está terrivelmente errado.
Se o HQ continuar a ignorar esse problema, nós teremos outra crise Argentina-Chile, onde nós com certeza iremos perder outro aliado fazendo a aliança irrelevante. Se o Brasil sair eu sei que eles continuarão a trabalhar próximos com aqueles que trabalham próximo deles, eu não acho que eles irão trocar de lado como a Bulgária fez (apesar de que a Bulgária teve inúmeros motivos para trocar de lado também, já que o HQ da EDEN deu a eles tratamento similar), então eu posso não estar 100% certo.
De qualquer forma, se o Brasil sair, é uma recomendação oficial minha que os eEUA também saiam da TERRA, porque nesse momento ficará claro que a TERRA não é mais uma aliança, mas sim amigos apenas no nome.
Assinado,
GloveisLove
Comments
Nice insight.
Good points, dont forget Brozil \o/
Nice insight. +1
Good looking resort you got there.
brozil s2 arg
brozil s2 flor
i support whatever brozil decides o/
"Terra has the bad habit of pretending problems don’t exist and that in the end everything will fix itself."
Sad but true...
Brazil have no doubts about our friendship with american people and american government.
So the issue is i'm SG ? okay i was wondering how to solve that shit. Finally, that's p simple.
brazil used to be among top allies serbia ever had, i have to say id really want to see them on our side again, but im not sure that id like to see them on expense of our current allies. perhaps alliance with bulgaria might be a good stepping stone for them 🙂
Well good to know
Great article!
Brazil will just join EDEN and try to solve their things with Romanians with EDEN HQ.....
On other side USA as it is will never gonna join EDEN again and will try to make some alliance around them again.
que se vayan todos, que no quede ni uno solo (?
You are the one Glove! Thank you very much!
I don't see any problem with France, they are just equal to every other TEDEN country that we have friendship in moment but not FRIENDSHIP like USA, Argentina and Croatia.
The thing about breaking the NAP almost don't irritates me (us) because we brazilians have short memory, REALLY short, something like our worst government in past 3 years ( 2 months ago ) is now remembered like a good one.
sry bad english XD
So no cared when Canada was infiltrated by Romanian PTOers....
NAP with Spain was a big mistake.
Time to troll TERRA & Brazil... NOT.
It always ends up like this. If anything, I respect ONE HQ more now for not letting Turkey join. It took guts holding out and saying "no" for so long through all the trolling. Dodged a bullet bigtime. As for Spain, shitty but not unexpected since they're surrounded by enemies. They might need to change things up. Too bad we couldn't do more to defend them in the past.
Brozil o/
Voted from Brazil.
Perfect!!
Can't help it, let me just say a tiny "toldyaso" to Brazil re. Romania problem. That's all the trolling I'm gonna do.
No hope, no love, no glory,
no happy ending
This is the way that we love,
like its forever,
then live the rest of our life,
but not together
Farewell TERRA, now it´s time for change, Brozil deserves a little bit of love!
GloveisLove
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HAIL BRAZIL! Nice article, really good. I think that is already decide😛 Brazil's leaving TERRA. Soon there will be an oficial article coming from the Brazilian Government. Let's see what will happen then. V+S
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mdc-um-comunicado-importante--2059001/1/20
Brazil leaves TERRA
No it's not troll. Use translate and you will see it.
Brazil is in a now in situation.
On one side is Argentina which is it's closest ally, both in proximity, relations and strategic importance, which has intertwined itself with Turkey to a degree it would not be able to free itself even if it wanted. This means that they're knailed down to EDEN currently as Turkey has no other option and consequently to Romania as one of the bosses in EDEN.
Don't forget brozil!
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On the other side is Croatia, which made good relations with Brazil as it was needed while they were in Mexico and at least until they find someone else again, will keep them.
At the end however there is the Romanian PTOers, many of whom have connections or have been in the past in the governance of the country, who don't seem to care at all and just want their bonuses regardless of the view of it's supposed ally. Same thing happens with China as well when they do something "unapropriate"
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excellent article
On the 3rd side is USA, however it has been heavily influenced by Turkish expatriates and EDEN as a whole as of late and this has meant that TERRA has become a simple extension of EDEN of late.
ONE is not an option really, least of all. Excuse of the old problems with Hungary, Poland and. Ever with Indonesia (though those could be solved relatively easy one would think).
So Brazil doesn't really have a choice but to shut up and put up right now.
Great!
CoT and Bulgaria, cannot be an alternative because of Argentina and Turkey and because of that neither EDEN nor Romania need do anything about the PTOers, and consequently they don't.
This type of tactic has become the trademark of EDEN as of late and unfortunately, more often then not, TERRA is simple a quiet accomplice or follower, hence the shameful way in which it dealt with Chile.
Brazil o7
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HAIL BROZIL!!
HAIL USA!!
Brazil already left TERRA. Glove is Love.
@eDark Angel, ONE is not an option at all.
Finally Brazil without being alliance TERRA!
Hail Brasil!!!
Brazil goes after something in which the alliance has failed to provide
:/
@eDarkAngel - If Brazil kept the eUS as a close ally (as Glove is suggesting) they could convince Argentina to leave EDEN. After all, Argies friendship with Turkey is a long distance (breakable with few consequences) friendship. Argies friendship with Brazil is NOT.
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Nice article.
HAIL BRASIL!!!
HAIL USA!!!
Voted, very good insight.
"Terra has the bad habit of pretending problems don’t exist and that in the end everything will fix itself.
This is terribly wrong.
If HQ continues to ignore this issue, we will have another Argentine-Chile crises, in where we will for sure be losing another ally and making the alliance irrelevant. "
imho, everything was said here, the mainly problem is terra HQ behavior facing problems, how they usully manage their issues
Glove is love
also, glove s2
voted, mate (:
V+!! Hail Brazil!!
HAIL BROZIL
HAIL USA
HAIL BROTHERHOOD
anyway, we are not changing sides, we are just upset with terra HQ, we will stand for our friends and allies, if you have any doubt just keep an eye on your battles, we will be there as we always did