Please Apologise New Era
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by HebronGazelle
Dear New Era and the rest of the eUK public,
I recently wrote an article showing New Era where they had gone wrong with their summary for the eUK. It was not an attack on the members or the party, but a simple article highlighting faults in the summary. I have not said my party is perfect, I have not said any party is perfect, I have not said the eUK is perfect. I would just like New Era to know that a majority of the ideas the party had for the eUK would not be achievable, or would not help the eUK.
Then I received multiple comments from New Era members, who seemed to think that my article was an attack against New Era. As explained in my comment before I received these insults, my article was not an attack on New Era.
Despite posting that comment, I had received the insults and attacks from New Era members. The two most obvious were King Hannibal of ASIA and AlottaFuntz. Here are the comments:
I have found AlottaFuntz insult very offensive, it was not just an attack against me but an attack against my party. I have not written my article on behalf of my party, they had no influence in the writing of my article. The fact that you think my party will be dead, and publicly saying it, is offensive.
After reading those comments, I read the article published by Alphabethis. I was expecting a good article with some good, debatable points in. Instead I saw Alphabethis had written the following.
"So New Era is not such a radical after all. We have many common ideas, although we try to improve current situation of eUK"
In the context of the article, it implies I had called New Era a radical party. I have never said those words before. This upsets me that Alphabethis can claim I have said something when I have not.
If my article has caused offence to New Era members or the party then I would like to apologise and say it was not intended. But if we are to have "A more united and fairly treated community" which New Era claims to want I would like an apology. I would like an apology from King Hannibal of Asia, AlottaFuntz, Alphabethis and the party of New Era. I hope I receive the apology soon and would also like to thank all those who stuck up for me through comments on my article.
Yours Sincerely,
CheetahCurtis
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Its unfortunate that some people see ESO as one and the same as every other party. The fact is, despite there being consensus between 'older' parties on some issues, each have radically different approaches, memberships and underlying principles/ideas.
Ultimately, everyone in the UK wants to improve the UK. But whatever NE thinks about TUP or any other party, it should be based on experience of the party in question, not responses to a different party.
As Vice PP of New Era I would like to say that I personally apologise myself and on behalf of New Era for what happened, some members of New Era took your article as a pre-election attack, I did read your article and I actually think it is helpful for us, as we are a very new and inexperianced party(I myself am only level 27)I will take all that has happened now into consideration and hopefully improve our party
thank you for bringing all of this to our attention
wigibob Vice PP of New Era
where have I said that you said New Era was a radical party? where? Many people call us radicals. It was a good moment to , using your words, refute such accusation. BTW, personal insults are bad, and they're never supported, on the other hands, there should be no limits on IDEAS, IDEAS.
It was a pre-election attack, dressed up as constructive criticism. Deny it all you like, but that is how it read .
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/stop-negative-campaigning-2163498/1/20
WayneKerr,
I can't deny that you read it as a pre-election attack and you wouldn't listen to me if I said it wasn't a pre-election attack. I know what I wrote and how it was mean to be read, and at least some other people read it in the right way. If you knew me better you would know why I wrote it. I don't attack people in this game.
wigibob,
I would like to thank you for apologising. Wish you the best of luck this election and in your parties future.
@CC I have the utmost respect for you, your a very rare type of player in eUK. Maybe the timing of the article was unfortunate. But it was an article stating how bad/dangerous many of there policies are, the day before the populace votes for congress.
Would be interesting what you make of the other parties policies. (I look forward to that article).
Wigi, you're a credit to your party
Awwwwwwwwww
It was a pre-election attack, dressed up as constructive criticism. Deny it all you like, but that is how it read .
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Bad timing considering, I can see why some would think it is an attack considering some of the comments by other parties as well as shouts by others like emergy making personal remarks about Goku. But if you found that offensive you should stay away from your ex PP Llort who makes more offensive remarks than that to random people for no reason whatseever
Llort to those who are reading Cheetah's article about being offended by Alotas remark sent a random message to a eReublik'er who has never abused anyone or posted anything controversial mocking her parents and calling them stroke victims. It was reported to the PP of ESO who replied ''Its Llort and he does that...'' No apology was received by Llort who went on to hold a position of importance within ESO.
Now which remarks are more offensive?
No article was made. Have you seen some of the comments New Era have faced about being racists and facists? Or Goku? The remarks he gets borders on slander at times...but yes one person wrote one comment about ESO and how their membership is falling faster than a prostitutes knickers and you want to nail yourself to the cross and play the martyr because of that remark?
Appauling opportunism to be honest.
Literally no words...
I have mailed those involved in this and asked them to apologise
To any New Era members reading this: Please keep your opinion to yourself if you have any problem please mail me, don't make a scene
I am sure that cheetah curtis never mean it to end up like this, we should both just forget this ever happened, I want all involved to apologise and focus on the future, I personally think we should take what you said and use it positively e.g. reorganise our policies.
Cheetah curtis was one of the players I looked up to when I was eyounger and I know he is trustworthy
I think that instead of making enemies, we should be making alliances
I personally don't have anything against any eUK party(even though I have been in quite a few parties and MUs) I think our only enemies should be other countries
Stand up for what you believe is correct!
I stand by my comments and refuse to apologise for what I said. My comments are my own and not my parties, i do pride myself on being in a party that allows us our own opinions and so expressed mine. To find those comments by alota offensive is either deliberately opportunist or somebody who is wrapped in cotton wool and has never either read shoutbox comments, visited another internet site or had a conversation in a pub.
At no point in the ESO shoutbox when i made it aware of Llort's comments did Cheetah find that 'very offensive' and didn't even comment on it despite being active at the time...so I do not believe he is that sensitive.
And why has Cheetah never come out being 'very offended' when Keers and co call people retarded and tw*ts on the forums?
Odd that considering its election day
Funny, considering NEWERA has a similar share of congress to us next month... You probably shouldn't be talking guys. UKPP has stolen your momentum against TUP, and now NewEra is really not as big of a deal. At least our politicians are respected
We are new and growing, you cant use that excuse
look Hugh
you are just making it worse
we all know keers is retarded but it isn't keers your flaming its cheetah curtis who made a simple article pointing out somethings we got wrong
@Cheetah Curtis
my advice is to delete this article before it get out of control and the one before aswell
No i never called Keers retarded. Thats what he calls people and Cheetah doesnt seem to take offence to that. Would you rather have New Era called a corpse if we were losing members or see someone called a 'tw*t' or 'retard' as is the standard issue insult for the forum elite? I have never called anyone retarded and never will but i am saying that if cheetah finds a simple comment by alota at a ''game' party (hint - its not a real political party cheetah)...
t...then why hasnt he been deeply insulted when innocent people have been insulted by Llort in his own party and it was made public in his parties shoutbox?
Frankly if this wasnt an election his articles wouldnt have been produced. And if my personal belief that someone is milking a situation and trying to hound a fellow gamer because of a simple remark and it is election time is wrong then i am glad i am not right.
look Cheetah Curtis would not do this as a pre-election attack
I am willing to back him
What he did was point out some key mistakes in our policies and he got flamed for it, where is the justice in that?
cheetah and keers are not in the same party or MU
I never said they was. My point is that if that comment by alota is so 'very offensive' that he has to write an article about it, then why havent other instances been offensive to him? I have mentioned other insults and comments where he hasnt said a word. The comment by alota wasnt directed at him but at an in game (in game being key word) role playing party.Does Cheetah find others calling us racist and facist very offensive
Leave people to apologise for their own actions. "You suck" is hardly something a whole party has to apologise for.
Look Hugh, I don't see why you needed to get involved in the first place cheetah wants a apology from people that offended him after they took offence from his article which he has apologised for
I got involved because that comment by alota is not worthy to screenshot and make an issue of out with an article on...shock...horror..election day.
Calling ESO a corpse is not offensive to him as they are losing members. Like i said worse things have been said in the shout box each day and in the forums...nowt said...and even worse things have been said to innocent people at innocent people in his own party...nowt said
Nuff said
you found that offensive? are you old enough to play with adults?
I am just going to leave it, I will not be part of this argument which is becoming ridiculous and irrelavent
can we all just leave it?
I don't care if you apologise or not anymore just leave it
well what was so offensive about what i wrote? explain it to me in easy words and i will see if an apology is due
I see a very accepting, social stream of NE's "stop the flaming" policies eh?
Let's get this straight Hugh, it's ok to lie, insult and say whatever you want because one troll a few months ago said something, because you don't need to be decent and stick to what your party's been propaganda'ing (?) for if you've got some half-cocked comparison to make? You're so full of it man.
Don't think you lied or insulted? Calling a party dead that is doing just as well as your's without even trying would imply you're lying, insulting to obscur people's judgment or are just plain wrong.
ESO is maintaining our membership while your "fresh exciting" party is struggling and working hard to put down just about everyone else to recruit underhandedly and without shame. Calling ESO a corpse, coming from NE, is the equivalent of a scavenging younghyena trying to upset a sleeping bear.
Lmao...the guy who was supporting a take over of another party and insults new Era all the time is attacking someone for saying a party is dead like a corpse...you are the biggest liar and hypocrite in this game. You also love the bedroom politics whilst trolling and insulting everything you oppose.
But please carry on attacking others for what you are doing in the above posts...it would be hillarious if you wasnt so pathetic : (
Goku has been more of a participant to the calming of the hostile situation in erep this month while you have gone from article to article throwing out insults and negativity...and remarks that border slanderous. Yeah please tell us again how you are a beacon of positivity...
New Era needs a PTO though eh after this fiasco?
AND IN CAPS I FINALLY ADD...WHAT WAS SO 'VERY OFFENSIVE' ABOUT WHAT ALOTA WROTE?
If she/he wrote that the SAS in MW2 were sh*t would people who play CoD be screaming for apologies??? Get a life Lewis and get friends, take some fresh air and stop being so angry and nasty...it could work wonders mate ; )
Our bastion of positivity who finds a comment about ESO being a dying corpse so offensive he goes on a rant a few days ago...psychic or what...
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After some of the comments you have made against New Era and its members you think calling a party dead is worse than what you've done?
I loike dis article.
I have a high opinion about Cheetah, that's why I'm more than surprised by his ...."reaction".
trolls will troll hugh. just do what everyone else does and ignore him until he makes his first valid point
Lewis called me a liar, that's the worst thing you can say in the IRL Government. They kick you out for it!
Relax guys. You have been trolled by Curtis somewhat, don't fight each other that's what he wants.
Not being in a party makes this argument hilarious. Please carry on.
Oh my god Hugh is still ranting about Llort.
You weren't even INVOLVED in that conversation so you can save the faux rage about how terrible of a person I am for attempting to resolve a conflict. I'm with bobsickle - these comment threads are literally mind-boggling.
Erm. I know Klurr in real life and was actually in a RL conversation with her when she got that PM. I saw first hand how upset that PM made her..so yeah as a good friend it did have something to do with me.
The fact you are still brushing it off shows you couldnt give two sh*ts anyway just as WE suspected at the time. And no, no apology was forthcoming. So it kind of is hard to believe that a simple comment about ESO by alota is found so offensive
...and spare me the 'faux rage' darling because when you see a close real life friend being slagged off like that for no reason whatsoever and completely out of the blue a true friend goes to bat for them...something you would never understand clearly eh?
Spare me the faux b*llshit Elle
Your a child and a troll
Troll off