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PANAM founded, Eden to be torn apart – The end of a bipolar world is near.
During the past months and years the world of eRepublik has seen many failed attempts to diversify the sphere of global politics. Small, regional alliances have been formed but they have always fallen due to inadept leadership or to the lack of larger nations who didn’t have the nerve to quit their trusted alliances and try something new instead. Since 2008, eRepublik has been split between North America, China, Scandinavia, Spain, Romania, Croatia, Poland and Greece forming one side, fighting against Serbia, Hungary, Russia, Indonesia, South America, Western Europe and Turkey. The rest of the world’s nations have been split between these power players to serve their needs to a more or less extent. The changes on the geopolitical map have always been carried out through direct invasions instead of diplomacy and changing sides. The most notable example of a nation totally switching allegiances is of course the United Kingdom, who significantly influenced to the course of history by turning to PEACE back in 2009. Apart from UK, and Ukraine and Bosnia who have swung both ways due to having large masses of people supporting different alliances, no large changes have happened. Until the very recent weeks.
The eternal order of having two superalliances is suddenly starting to falter and decay very quickly. The foregoers were Latvia and Italy who made the risky decision of quitting Phoenix despite located in hazardous areas in terms of geopolitical safety. The risk paid off extremely well, though Latvia encountered some setbacks on the way. Both nations waged successful campaigns after joining Eden and even today Italy is holding captured regions from both Austria and Germany. These two nations paved the way for Bulgaria to rethink their stance on the global chessboard as well. The real bombshell however was the announcement of Brazil to quit Phoenix altogether due to the dissonances with Hungary over the regions of South Africa. Instead of joining Eden however, Brazil decided to stay neutral, probably being the first truly neutral nation in the game’s history. Brazil has the luxury of defining their foreign policy as they see fit due to them being the only unquestionable regional superpower in South America. By doing the unthinkable and signing peace with their age-old Spanish enemies, Brazil closed the only serious threat against them, freeing them from the burden of being a somewhat second-grade member of Phoenix and giving them the liberty to find new friends, such as us here in the America.
Which one is the pig-disgusting?
Portuguese-speaking Argentinians, Nippon America and Maple-syrup producers, or PANAM, an eligible third option?
This extraordinary convergence between USA and Brazil is the final step towards pursuing for a multipolar world. After America left Eden, the cooperation remained practically at the same level. America most certainly even continued paying fees to Eden as the military goals were so similar for the two parties. The recent takeoff in foreign politics can evolve to being the start of the first true third alliance in eRepublik. In Krems’s today’s announcement article of PANAM, USA, Brazil, Argentina, Canada and Japan are listed as the founding members. The concentration of member nations to the continents of America is a sign that PANAM’s operating range will be limited to pursue the imminent interests of the member nations.
To make PANAM a force to be reckoned with, this must be the ultimate guiding line of the alliance and the backbone of the future charter. To make PANAM a strong and an effective regional force, two things that have brought superalliances down must be remembered.
First: Not to have too weak members.
On its finest hour, PEACE GC had about half of the world as its members. Too weak members are a nuisance, a security threat and an expense. PANAM should avoid having too weak members in order to stay compact, effective and equal for all members. Small members usually are awarded from their help by granting them membership. This can be seen in the hastened membership handling of Italy in to Eden after they changed sides and blocked Hungary from reaching France’s territories again. PANAM’s future power will rely to complete hegemony of home turf. The entire North America belongs to the alliance and there is no need to accept for example Bolivia to be a full member as they are neither a threat nor an asset due to their weakness. If there are resources that are needed, the regions can be invaded like Argentina is doing right now.
Seeing Japan being taken in as a full member right from the start is perplexing. Just because we made a region rental agreement with them, though a very profitable one, should not be the only reason why they get to be in PANAM. They are not the biggest militarily, they’re on a completely different time zone and quite frankly I don’t see them as else but being a hang-around in PANAM. Should we take Ireland in as well as they are good guys too, and we rent regions from them?
Second: Not to act as world police.
Being Captain ATLANTIS and PEACEkeepers is a central part of superalliance’s concept. Eden and Phoenix are continuously trying to antagonize each other in order to convince new nations to join, keep the old ones attracted to it and to save face from their own shady business. Portraying the other side as the dark side keeps the alliance united and focused on one goal, destroying that evil. PANAM doesn’t have that need to prove itself to the rest of the world. If the alliance is founded to advance it’s members interests instead of countering a roughly equal force, there is no need for world policing. For instance, the RW campaign in South Africa is something PANAM wouldn’t have to divert it’s forces.
Eden waged a long and an expensive RW campaign against Brazil in order to liberate South Africa. The goal of the campaign was to look good in the eyes of the world and cause financial harm to Brazil and Phoenix. Today we turn a blind eye to the occupation of South Africa by the very same Brazil we once fought so keenly. Once we make our alliance formal, we are approving the occupation as it makes PANAM stronger. One could say we are acting against our principals, but the other could say liberation tours are just plain hypocrisy. It’s good business if the liberated country later evolves in to a serious force and shows gratitude in the future, but that’s just what foreign policy is in essence. Bargaining. Unconditional love is hard to find in foreign policy, instead it is a net of contracts that benefit both parties of the deal. If PANAM doesn’t take the burden of being the good guy, it doesn’t have to reluctantly liberate hardly fought regions to their true owner just to look better than the other side. In between the white and black that Eden and Phoenix represent, PANAM can bring the variety of shades of gray. In between good and evil, PANAM can bring realism and opportunism.
Protecting small members can be seen as a form of world policing too. If Japan for some reason would get attacked and lose regions, it could create internal tension inside PANAM and make it look weak to the outside. The best protection of an alliance is having equally strong members. Eden was at its best when there were just 8 members, so was the Brolliance when it equaled to USA and Canucks. Phoenix has been spared from internal conflicts by being under the iron fist of the three superpowers, but the price for carrying poor and weak members along was being eternally inferior to Eden in terms of military successes.
One thing is for certain, in the current atmosphere, PANAM can’t be an independent alliance capable of attacking as well as defending. Even with Brazil out of Phoenix, the battle between Eden and Phoenix with their current members leaves no room for a third alliance to actively pursue their goals i.e. wage invasion wars. This brings us to the other hot topic of foreign policy this week, an internal rupture within Eden that could bring it down and open an opportunity for PANAM to grow to be a serious player on the global stage.
[Take a breather – You’ve read over half of the article already!]
Polish-Romanian crisis puts Eden to the brink – A possible union with Hungary could transform the power balance for good.
Poland and Hungary, two nations sharing warm ties in real life have found themselves from a similar situation in game. Both nations are trapped to the maze that’s called Europe, and while Poland is handling the situation a bit better with the invasion of France (translation needed) in search of rubber, ultimately they are in the exact same situation with Hungary, that is infinite boredom and the curse of the cyclic wars.
The critical mass is nearly fulfilled. Hungary and Poland are surrounded with either friends or too easy targets. They can’t wage exciting but still successful campaigns. After a brief period of Eden hegemony, the power balance has returned to the point where both alliances can barely wipe easy targets like Australia or Germany, but can only try to invade the real core regions, as can be seen in the dreadful attempts of Hungary and Romania, poking each other’s original regions.
The game is more boring than ever, the war module is kind of cool but strategy has disappeared and no real wars can be waged with the current alliances. To make the game exciting again on the fields of war, there must be a profound change to the alliances. Poland and Hungary are carefully probing if the time is right to abandon their old alliances and form something that will rock the world and make the game exciting again. It won’t be easy or fast, it might not even happen, but the dissent that used to be just a running gag in the cabinets of power has now escaped to the media and getting considerable support from both nations. The tensions between Romania and Poland are growing, and despite the president of Poland is denying any attempts to break out from Eden, elections are nearing and everyday puns such as Eden Supreme Commander’s, President of Romania’s, Bogdan_L:s depiction of some members of the Polish congress as trolls is just what is needed for the two Eden superpowers to drift apart and tear Eden at the same time.
Smear campaigns run wild.
Meanwhile, America can only twiddle their thumbs and look intensely to the diplomatic tensions in Europe. PANAM is just in it’s early stage, and it can’t make independent foreign policy just yet. We should still support Eden just as Brazil is supporting Phoenix by signing a MPP with Slovenia to back their attempt to invade Italy.
Speaking of Italy, if we are to commit to PANAM 100 percent, we have to limit our friends. If our focus shall concentrate to the imminent proximity of our nation, we will have little to no in common with countries such as Croatia in the future. Croats are good, perhaps the best friends we have in Europe, but if we continue to protect their interests in the future, it will be away from the full potential of PANAM. We will find ourselves balancing between our own interest and that of others, just like we do today. As Krems put it in his today’s article, we need to flip the bird to Europe if we want to make PANAM as great as it can be.
Poland and Hungary face the same issue today as well. They must weight which one is more important, an exciting gaming experience or loyalty to age-old friends. However, they must study themselves and find out, do they really defend countries like Romania and Serbia out of true, genuine friendship or just out of obligation. Pleading to ancient favors is a sign that these two nations have nothing in common today. Poland doesn’t owe anything to Romania, nor do we owe anything to Europe.
It’s like Poland is dating a fat chick out of sheer sympathy. Breaking up with her will feel bad and make you feel like you’re a bad person, but it will feel the right decision at least when you meet a smoking chick called Hungary.
There is a possibility that everything will continue as it is, but things can go otherwise, history can be written and the bipolarity of the world can be shaken. I don’t know about you, but I am up to forgetting the past and starting to create a new exciting future with organizations like PANAM and Polgary. I want to play a game where the burning question isn’t: which country Poland is going to attack next, but: which country are we going to attack next or even better: which countries are planning to tag team and attack us? Abandoning the safety that Eden brings us is a bold and possibly a dangerous move, but maybe that is exactly which will take our nation, Poland and the entire world out of this consuming boredom and stagnation.
I’m greasing my gun already. Erm... I mean I told Jorge and Guillermo to grease it for me. Good job invading Mexico guys, now the border that separates the illegal immigrants from a higher standard of living is between USA and Canada. British Columbia where I reside, is the new California.
The eternal order of having two superalliances is suddenly starting to falter and decay very quickly. The foregoers were Latvia and Italy who made the risky decision of quitting Phoenix despite located in hazardous areas in terms of geopolitical safety. The risk paid off extremely well, though Latvia encountered some setbacks on the way. Both nations waged successful campaigns after joining Eden and even today Italy is holding captured regions from both Austria and Germany. These two nations paved the way for Bulgaria to rethink their stance on the global chessboard as well. The real bombshell however was the announcement of Brazil to quit Phoenix altogether due to the dissonances with Hungary over the regions of South Africa. Instead of joining Eden however, Brazil decided to stay neutral, probably being the first truly neutral nation in the game’s history. Brazil has the luxury of defining their foreign policy as they see fit due to them being the only unquestionable regional superpower in South America. By doing the unthinkable and signing peace with their age-old Spanish enemies, Brazil closed the only serious threat against them, freeing them from the burden of being a somewhat second-grade member of Phoenix and giving them the liberty to find new friends, such as us here in the America.
Which one is the pig-disgusting?
Portuguese-speaking Argentinians, Nippon America and Maple-syrup producers, or PANAM, an eligible third option?
This extraordinary convergence between USA and Brazil is the final step towards pursuing for a multipolar world. After America left Eden, the cooperation remained practically at the same level. America most certainly even continued paying fees to Eden as the military goals were so similar for the two parties. The recent takeoff in foreign politics can evolve to being the start of the first true third alliance in eRepublik. In Krems’s today’s announcement article of PANAM, USA, Brazil, Argentina, Canada and Japan are listed as the founding members. The concentration of member nations to the continents of America is a sign that PANAM’s operating range will be limited to pursue the imminent interests of the member nations.
To make PANAM a force to be reckoned with, this must be the ultimate guiding line of the alliance and the backbone of the future charter. To make PANAM a strong and an effective regional force, two things that have brought superalliances down must be remembered.
First: Not to have too weak members.
On its finest hour, PEACE GC had about half of the world as its members. Too weak members are a nuisance, a security threat and an expense. PANAM should avoid having too weak members in order to stay compact, effective and equal for all members. Small members usually are awarded from their help by granting them membership. This can be seen in the hastened membership handling of Italy in to Eden after they changed sides and blocked Hungary from reaching France’s territories again. PANAM’s future power will rely to complete hegemony of home turf. The entire North America belongs to the alliance and there is no need to accept for example Bolivia to be a full member as they are neither a threat nor an asset due to their weakness. If there are resources that are needed, the regions can be invaded like Argentina is doing right now.
Seeing Japan being taken in as a full member right from the start is perplexing. Just because we made a region rental agreement with them, though a very profitable one, should not be the only reason why they get to be in PANAM. They are not the biggest militarily, they’re on a completely different time zone and quite frankly I don’t see them as else but being a hang-around in PANAM. Should we take Ireland in as well as they are good guys too, and we rent regions from them?
Second: Not to act as world police.
Being Captain ATLANTIS and PEACEkeepers is a central part of superalliance’s concept. Eden and Phoenix are continuously trying to antagonize each other in order to convince new nations to join, keep the old ones attracted to it and to save face from their own shady business. Portraying the other side as the dark side keeps the alliance united and focused on one goal, destroying that evil. PANAM doesn’t have that need to prove itself to the rest of the world. If the alliance is founded to advance it’s members interests instead of countering a roughly equal force, there is no need for world policing. For instance, the RW campaign in South Africa is something PANAM wouldn’t have to divert it’s forces.
Eden waged a long and an expensive RW campaign against Brazil in order to liberate South Africa. The goal of the campaign was to look good in the eyes of the world and cause financial harm to Brazil and Phoenix. Today we turn a blind eye to the occupation of South Africa by the very same Brazil we once fought so keenly. Once we make our alliance formal, we are approving the occupation as it makes PANAM stronger. One could say we are acting against our principals, but the other could say liberation tours are just plain hypocrisy. It’s good business if the liberated country later evolves in to a serious force and shows gratitude in the future, but that’s just what foreign policy is in essence. Bargaining. Unconditional love is hard to find in foreign policy, instead it is a net of contracts that benefit both parties of the deal. If PANAM doesn’t take the burden of being the good guy, it doesn’t have to reluctantly liberate hardly fought regions to their true owner just to look better than the other side. In between the white and black that Eden and Phoenix represent, PANAM can bring the variety of shades of gray. In between good and evil, PANAM can bring realism and opportunism.
Protecting small members can be seen as a form of world policing too. If Japan for some reason would get attacked and lose regions, it could create internal tension inside PANAM and make it look weak to the outside. The best protection of an alliance is having equally strong members. Eden was at its best when there were just 8 members, so was the Brolliance when it equaled to USA and Canucks. Phoenix has been spared from internal conflicts by being under the iron fist of the three superpowers, but the price for carrying poor and weak members along was being eternally inferior to Eden in terms of military successes.
One thing is for certain, in the current atmosphere, PANAM can’t be an independent alliance capable of attacking as well as defending. Even with Brazil out of Phoenix, the battle between Eden and Phoenix with their current members leaves no room for a third alliance to actively pursue their goals i.e. wage invasion wars. This brings us to the other hot topic of foreign policy this week, an internal rupture within Eden that could bring it down and open an opportunity for PANAM to grow to be a serious player on the global stage.
[Take a breather – You’ve read over half of the article already!]
Polish-Romanian crisis puts Eden to the brink – A possible union with Hungary could transform the power balance for good.
Poland and Hungary, two nations sharing warm ties in real life have found themselves from a similar situation in game. Both nations are trapped to the maze that’s called Europe, and while Poland is handling the situation a bit better with the invasion of France (translation needed) in search of rubber, ultimately they are in the exact same situation with Hungary, that is infinite boredom and the curse of the cyclic wars.
The critical mass is nearly fulfilled. Hungary and Poland are surrounded with either friends or too easy targets. They can’t wage exciting but still successful campaigns. After a brief period of Eden hegemony, the power balance has returned to the point where both alliances can barely wipe easy targets like Australia or Germany, but can only try to invade the real core regions, as can be seen in the dreadful attempts of Hungary and Romania, poking each other’s original regions.
The game is more boring than ever, the war module is kind of cool but strategy has disappeared and no real wars can be waged with the current alliances. To make the game exciting again on the fields of war, there must be a profound change to the alliances. Poland and Hungary are carefully probing if the time is right to abandon their old alliances and form something that will rock the world and make the game exciting again. It won’t be easy or fast, it might not even happen, but the dissent that used to be just a running gag in the cabinets of power has now escaped to the media and getting considerable support from both nations. The tensions between Romania and Poland are growing, and despite the president of Poland is denying any attempts to break out from Eden, elections are nearing and everyday puns such as Eden Supreme Commander’s, President of Romania’s, Bogdan_L:s depiction of some members of the Polish congress as trolls is just what is needed for the two Eden superpowers to drift apart and tear Eden at the same time.
Smear campaigns run wild.
Meanwhile, America can only twiddle their thumbs and look intensely to the diplomatic tensions in Europe. PANAM is just in it’s early stage, and it can’t make independent foreign policy just yet. We should still support Eden just as Brazil is supporting Phoenix by signing a MPP with Slovenia to back their attempt to invade Italy.
Speaking of Italy, if we are to commit to PANAM 100 percent, we have to limit our friends. If our focus shall concentrate to the imminent proximity of our nation, we will have little to no in common with countries such as Croatia in the future. Croats are good, perhaps the best friends we have in Europe, but if we continue to protect their interests in the future, it will be away from the full potential of PANAM. We will find ourselves balancing between our own interest and that of others, just like we do today. As Krems put it in his today’s article, we need to flip the bird to Europe if we want to make PANAM as great as it can be.
Poland and Hungary face the same issue today as well. They must weight which one is more important, an exciting gaming experience or loyalty to age-old friends. However, they must study themselves and find out, do they really defend countries like Romania and Serbia out of true, genuine friendship or just out of obligation. Pleading to ancient favors is a sign that these two nations have nothing in common today. Poland doesn’t owe anything to Romania, nor do we owe anything to Europe.
It’s like Poland is dating a fat chick out of sheer sympathy. Breaking up with her will feel bad and make you feel like you’re a bad person, but it will feel the right decision at least when you meet a smoking chick called Hungary.
There is a possibility that everything will continue as it is, but things can go otherwise, history can be written and the bipolarity of the world can be shaken. I don’t know about you, but I am up to forgetting the past and starting to create a new exciting future with organizations like PANAM and Polgary. I want to play a game where the burning question isn’t: which country Poland is going to attack next, but: which country are we going to attack next or even better: which countries are planning to tag team and attack us? Abandoning the safety that Eden brings us is a bold and possibly a dangerous move, but maybe that is exactly which will take our nation, Poland and the entire world out of this consuming boredom and stagnation.
I’m greasing my gun already. Erm... I mean I told Jorge and Guillermo to grease it for me. Good job invading Mexico guys, now the border that separates the illegal immigrants from a higher standard of living is between USA and Canada. British Columbia where I reside, is the new California.
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That was a great read.
There comes fire to Rome...
I lol when i see that in any of these scenarios with new alliances there is no harm what so ever to phoenix, I also lol when I see you writing that 4 members left phoenix and then you continue to say that eden is on the brink of being torn apart
also to make things loking nicer for pro-eden supporters nobody mentions serbia, I doubt that serbia will quit friendship with hungary, so any case involving hungary must involve serbia
artificially "forgeting" past will lead nobody nowhere, in fact it will lead them to alliances with no trust and with plenty of backstabing, for example lets say poland really sign mpp with hungary, they will be forced to cooperate with serbia then, there is hundreds of polaks who support croatia and without doubt they would leak information from that alliance to croatian one (croatia will never befriend hungary nor serbia, we care for past) , thats just one example
the current state of being came from years of finding right mixture and balance of alliances , and can not change over night, just for the lulz like some say
Nice to see you write again.
Sossu! : D
Man, those were ten enjoyable minutes.
and btw, that panama alliance lmao, serbia singlehandedly can destroy all of you
Do I get a prize for reading to the end?
Did anyone understand what Zelja wrote? If so could they please furnish a translation?
i can write it on croatian for you
Very good.
He said that Panam is a joke and eSerbia could kick your asses.
I don't like bipolar system but if EDEN has been torn apart, Phoenix will win most battles and that will begin a new phase of bipolar system... PANAM should help EDEN via MPPs to re-balance it so that we will have a tripolar world
and... so Canada is officially out of EDEN?
Free eMéxico!
Good read, i miss your articles sossu
@Zelja- troll is troll. Players like you are the epitome of why this game has gotten boring, if serbia can "singlehandeldly" destroy us, id love to see them try it. At least it would be more fun than doing the same wars over the same regions again and again.
«First: Not to have too weak members.»
Argentina is Strong ? I missed something?
: 3.
And when Rome falls, the world
Could use a TL;DR version at the end. Can't wait to see nations switch allegiances and make things fun
HELL yes very good article. Keep writing
I lol'd
"First: Not to have too weak members."
You mentioned many tmes Italy..... but, WTF about Japan? :facepalm:
interesting, vote
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realistic article. many people cant/dont wanna see this happening :]
Shifts in the alliances is always interesting periods in this game, and hectic ones for the people in charge.
The article is well written and the future will tell if eRepublik can have three alliances again like it had in the early beta days and if Polgary will be the new Cromania.
Bigger changes in alliances would definitely be good for the game but it's not that simple. Poland and Romania have never been that much of friends.
Even bigger conflict between them was about to happen earlier this year but it was avoided and I believe this will be too. They just can't afford to lose eachother and even if media/irc trolls don't see that, wise guys making the decisions will.. I hope.
Good read. Thanks for breaking it all down Sossu.
Good read, however I am sure your headline was meant to be "The beginning of a new bipolar world is near."
Again with some "new" alliance.....
In the end I would like to see this happening followed but some other "new" alliances but again if you want that something like that happens you must be against other alliances, not friendly or anything like that. Being friend with other alliance would just mean nothing because it will remain bipolar as it is now.
All we need is more citizens in other countries, if we didnt have 5-6 nations that dominate the game itd be fukin crazy. More countries should be added to, we need more diversity in the game. Its time erepublik truly becomes a new world.
Zelja, ne hebu te ovi Ameri na 1% hahaha
I think some of your phrasing was pretty horrible, from an English standpoint (it's North and South America, not Northern and Southern America). Your analysis was interesting, and it's nice to see a good in-depth article. But I agree with a previous commenter, your headline contradicts your actual point.
and what's the goal of this new alliance? world peace?
hoverge, probably. what alliance isnt advertising that as their goal? xD
No vote, only 2 pictures.
Quite a lot of fails on this article, but worth to read.
Zelja +1
Interesting.
RL;SR (Really Long Still Read)
Great Read, hope you keep them coming!
RL;SR
Hmm. Quality.
Voted. Subscribing. ~
Glad I read that.
Still no idea what to expect...which as you say, might be a good point.
good to see a new article coming from you.
I just saw Krems, Krems, Krems and Krems... which brings us to old story about leading USA out of EDEN and into PHX. Btw Brazil is not neutral at all, they fight for PHX same as they did before. They only closed their own war so now they can dedicate damage where needed.
Oh, you ignorant and delusional little dreamers...
You write your little articles spelling doom & gloom, preaching how the world is coming to an end, and how something wonderful will be created after the chaos. You even help in beginning the chaos just to get to where you want.
All your efforts, all your misplaced energy is for nothing. Newsflash! World with two super blocs IS the standard! It is the median the world always contracts back to. One of the alliances is going to support another alliance under attack by the third alliance. Eventually we return to the old order.
No matter who you are, no matter what cabal of free masons you have working on it, you cannot fight the cycle. History will repeat itself whether you want it or not. So enjoy the world that is not bipolar while you can. It will not last.
You forgot to mention one really big problem with this new alliance - all of the countries are in the same timezone, except for the Japan. It's going to be very difficult to organize military campaigns outside the American continents...
"Croats are good, perhaps the best friends we have in Europe, but if we continue to protect their interests in the future, it will be away from the full potential of PANAM. "
Only interest that we ever had was protecting our borders and those of our ONLY friendly neighbour BiH...
@Zelja - let us through CRO-ITA-FRA-ESP so we get border with USA.
@Sossu - It looks like SRB either cannot find ally or it is counted as 1 state ally. I disagree with that. OR you planned it to be new colony for new allies...not going to happen.
@AleksBlack - Serbia has same problem, but with TANKS it can be overcomed, and organized military and paramilitary forces..
Excellent article. V+S.
Go ahead boys and gals, dump us and our "idiotic" wars with Serbs. Soon when they get on your borders you'll see what you have to cope with and then you're gonna cry for good old times and "idiotic" Croats. o7 to all propaganda masters around.
@Pojacanje - I was talking about alliances, not about specific countries. (:
Both Phoenix and (especially) EDEN have members in different timezones, and it gives them great strategical advantage. We will see how this new alliance will cope with this problem...
PANAM = lol
it will happend same thing as it with brolliance?!? where is brolliace?! I think that australia need help from "brolliance" xDDD
Nice read.
Every ecountry in this new module is rethinking policies and alliances... Up to the point that old archenemies offered peace to each other (ie Serbia wanted peace with both Croatia and Romania, one is signed, the other has failed for now).
Fact is that new rules changed eworld a lot, the only question is: who is aware of that change...
To trolls: Brazil is neutral, the only Phoenix member they help so far is eSerbia (and we are grateful for that help)...
Show that you dislike the admin unite against Romania!
Go ahead boys and gals, dump us and our "idiotic" wars with Serbs. Soon when they get on your borders you'll see what you have to cope with and then you're gonna cry for good old times and "idiotic" Croats. o7 to all propaganda masters around.
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Heh, it's would be good to see a pragmatic, self-serving alliance with no illusions of being the 'Good Guy'. Unexpected but interesting development.
Heh, it would be good to see a pragmatic, self-serving alliance with no illusions of being the 'Good Guy'. Unexpected but interesting development.
Perhaps eChile could be counted into PANAM
@Katzenjammer:
"Only interest that we ever had was protecting our borders and those of our ONLY friendly neighbour BiH... "
Well, that's quite a lot of work that is needed to keep you guys safe. If PANAM is to ignore Europe, it should mean ignoring you too. Otherwise we will just see PANAM fighting in European wars and the bipolarity will just come back.
@Pojacanje:
"- It looks like SRB either cannot find ally or it is counted as 1 state ally. I disagree with that. OR you planned it to be new colony for new allies...not going to happen.
"
I didn't have the space to start speculating about the possible redistribution of nations in to new alliances. Ofc Serbia is going to be a major player in the negotiations. Maybe if the crisis between Poland and Romania evolves more, I'll write a speculation article. The breaking point is to see if you want to keep your friendship with Hungary, and vice versa. Not much will change if you two guys stick together.
Veri gud (I know! It's Very good)
>No weak or unamerican members
>Japan
>mfw
Also, you seem to imply Serbia relies on Hungary for its defence. Seriously?
Just pray that this PANAM doesn't produce something like POL+HUN+SERB+CRO+ROM and maybe some more and you will face Florida again.
Let's see...
-Argentina: Divide South America in two with Brazil.
-Brazil: Divide South America in two with Argentina and keep South Africa without anyone moralizing.
-USA: Can stay in Mexico and venture into Asia through Japan.
-Japan: A country to be protected, used as a stepping stone to Asia for USA, possibly used as a bulldozer to prevent USA-China wars.
-Canada: Keeps fighting with UK or France. Difficult geopolitical position, unless gains a foothold in Scandinavia.
Don't think this is really nothing new. Brazil and Argentina have minded their own business for some time now anyway. Canada keeps doing what it has done for a while. Japan keeps doing what it has been doing for a while. USA keeps doing what it has done for a while.
The real question is, which ties with old friends/allies are going to be cut? All? Doubtful.
"Croats are good, perhaps the best friends we have in Europe, but if we continue to protect their interests in the future, it will be away from the full potential of PANAM. "
Only interest that we ever had was protecting our borders and those of our ONLY friendly neighbour BiH...
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Jorge poop on your shoe and Guillermo grease you girl. Congrats!!! XP
FAIL,a big one!
Just to clarify, the Brazilian "occupation" of eSA is only because we asked them to step in. Thanks to Brazil, the Hun PTOers are finally leaving eSouth Africa. As per our agreement with Brazil, they get to keep 3 regions that are honestly useless to us but necessary for Brazil, pay rent to us for the regions, and we sign an MPP with Brazil. If we wanted to be liberated, we would have started up RWs all across eSA by now.
Good article by the way, voted.
˝Croats are good, perhaps the best friends we have in Europe, but if we continue to protect their interests in the future, it will be away from the full potential of PANAM. "
we´ll remember this when you call for help.
˝Croats are good, perhaps the best friends we have in Europe, but if we continue to protect their interests in the future, it will be away from the full potential of PANAM. "
we´ll remember this when you call for help. X2
Let's test your new alliance and let eserbs at your borders.
Or maybe not.
When they crush you in less than a week, they economy will become to strong and we'll have to bust our ass to get them back in their borders.
@Katzenjammer:
"Only interest that we ever had was protecting our borders and those of our ONLY friendly neighbour BiH... "
Well, that's quite a lot of work that is needed to keep you guys safe. If PANAM is to ignore Europe, it should mean ignoring you too. Otherwise we will just see PANAM fighting in European wars and the bipolarity will just come back.
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oh lol , in fact croatia is the one keeping you safe, you were defending yourself when defending croatia, now the serbia menaged to break thru to slovenia, and its headed to italy, after italy they could go towards spain, and what do you think who is next then?
yea sure panam will save you when serbia comes knocking, same as panam saved you when hungary and indonesia occupied you
we had peace with serbia offered several times to us, but we declined it , bcs we knew italy and spain are next , and we didnt wanna let them attack our allies without fight
go serbia go
I do not have time to read all that sorry.
I do not have time to read all that sorry.
Panam sounds great but it truly pains me to leave the Croatians behind, I fight for them every chance I can and even though the brolliance failed Istill think of them as broatia
Bad idea I like the whole good(eden) vs evil(phoenix) concept and there is nothing wrong wanting to be the worlds police most patriotic americans like the idea of spreading the values of the usa with the world.
Well written article I must say. But the way you said it, I don't really think its gonna work. Yes, saying "I pwn Bolivia because I can" is good for a gaming experience, but I don't think alliance with such goals will really work and live.
As for members, I can understand Japan being in this group, as it's USA dog. I don't understand why Australia isn't part of this alliance yet, my only guess is because they are being wiped out again and the new alliance doesnt want a conflict for survival right after creation.
It's gonna be fun for sure, but the fun won't last for long I think..
PRIDE,
POWER,
PAKISTAN!
Harrison Garrick, you are a tool, nothing more to say
vonMartin Day 1,135, 02:02
To trolls: Brazil is neutral, the only Phoenix member they help so far is eSerbia (and we are grateful for that help)...
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there is an informal alliance called BIA, those are Brazil, Indonesia and Argentina as members... the military orders in this countries suit always to help each other..
well I don't like the idea of united America. Europe will probably stay divided, and I am from Europe : D
\o/
Voted
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/breaking-news-serbia-leaves-phoenix--1620132/1/20
i called this ages ago.
About right.
Now that eAdmin has re-allocated all resouces, talked of cutting the US down to '15 regions', etc. etc., it is time to form new regional alliances (e.g. Brazil...thank you Draak). It is also the time to send a message to eAdmin by no longer blindly supporting eRomainia in their European wars.
Great article. Good to see you writing again. + v
great article
but very long
voted
Everyone saying Japan is on a different timezone from the rest of this alliance knows exactly zero about how eJapan functions. Most players in eJapan are RL Americans, because RL Japanese don't play eRepublik. You can make cases against Japan for having a small population, or for Japan because we're the gateway to Asia, but before you put your foot in your mouth, check your facts. If you say the players of a nation run on a different timezone, you'd better be talking out of your mouth and not your ass.
~ Geno Garon, Previous Everything Except President in eJapan
It's not the first time when the change from bipolar to "multipolar" tries to take shape ..but in the end it never turned out to be more then an idea (I guess I am too old and remember a lot of similar moves ).
Just in the interest of truth : ePoland rejected an MPP with eRomania and that is why the entire scandal in EDEN.
Rejecting an MPP is against the EDEN charter .
Also :"do they really defend countries like Romania and Serbia out of true, genuine friendship or just out of obligation."
ePoland did not support eRomania against eHungary ,in fact there is more damage done by ePolish citizens on eHungary's side then on eRomania's side .
About PANAM, that will live shorter then FORTIS.
Do not buy dead "Phoenix" propaganda ! They want destroyed EDEN+BRO ! We have opportunity to destroy them now ! Long live EDEN & BROS !
Looking forward to get into the game more, new player here reviving his old citizen that I BARELY gave a chance.
PANAM won't live long, that's for sure, it's only matter of time, we've seen similar situations many times.
"˝Croats are good, perhaps the best friends we have in Europe, but if we continue to protect their interests in the future, it will be away from the full potential of PANAM. "
I don't see a reason why we wouldn't still cooperate. Croatian-USA relationship has always been good, every Croat would help USA as we used to help many time before, we were always loyal to our allies, especially to USA because we still do remember when you sacrificed some of your regions to protect ours (slavonia nwc).
I'll say again as I've said many times before - Hail USA
you Croats helped us all many times! its a shame, there was not enough help from our side from time to time~...
lets make our own alliance o/
unsub
Very informative read. Kudos.
i red to the "take a breather you're halfway done part" and thought screw this i dont have the attention span to read the rest.
but the first half it was i good read
Unsub, gl with Panamamanamanammana
japonese have tentacles
The sheer stupidity of this is mind boggling. So we turn our backs on our allies who have had ours in the past just so we can cower behind our borders? What happens if phoenix beats eden? Do you think they wont come after us next? We need to fight them over there with our allies so we don't end up fighting them here without them. This level of ignorant thought is on par with Neville "peace in our time" chamberlin or even jimmy carter.
@Harrison Garrick: Newsflash to you, Phoenix has been dissolved. Eden won. Hurray. What do you think will happen next? They will reorganize and form Phoenix 2.0 and we will continue to support our friends in the 20th battle for SGP? Can't wait. Or Europe will be divided to 2-3 regional alliances and we might just be better to stay from sticking our noses to their business unless it suits our interests. Or Europe will form a superalliance and we are p much f*cked already.
All I'm saying is that if we want PANAM to be a regional alliance, we must actually ACT like being in a regional alliance. Since Croatia isn't even near us, I can't see a reason we would help them in the future if we want to change things as they are today. Both prominent presidential candidates have expressed their positive feelings of evolving PANAM, be it an auxiliary alliance for Europe or an independent organization. All I'm sayin' is that I'd much rather see USA in an alliance that is formed to look up to it's own, even if we'd be on the losing side as a result.
quality article sossu, i haven't read an article this long in months in erep, keep it coming bro
Great article and I couldn't agree more on your point with weak Nations. That's probably the main thing that made me get sick of the Eden vs. Phoenix and eventually the game as it often resulted in slowing down the Progress of the super-nations