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New World Order - Cyclic wars finish the bipolar world?

77 Day 1,133, 01:30 Hungary
MAGYARUL ALUL

We see several important changes in the game in the past months, important enough to make our New World full of wars, however cyclic wars that starts to become boring.

Now it is free to launch an attack. Not just free but also compulsory, if you have the initiative. Natural Enemy pairs formed (in our regions, as it was well predictable: eRomania-eHungary; eCroatia-eSerbia). Natural Enemy feature made the expensive declaration of war (DoW) free to one selected direction.

The consequences? eSerbia and eRomania, in slight fear of wars with strong enemies in two fronts, closed their wars. This peace shocked both alliances, however in PHX side it was obviously better prepared, causing less trauma but also it resulted in a really bad situation of eCroatia. Some ruptures occured in the EDEN. Recently, ePoland refused the extension of MPP with eRomania.

The opposing alliance was affected by some misunderstandings, too. The long-covered rage of eBrazil against eSA and their TOers and protectors, eHungary finally led to eBrazilian quit of PHX.

What is the problem now? We are full of wars, OK. But in some parts of the New World, these wars are mostly cyclic ones. eRomania attacks eHungary in SGP or NGP, fails, then eHungary attacks eRomania in Maramures, wins or fails. If wins, attacks towards Transilvania or Bucovina, Romanians RWing Maramures and get it back, RWing Ukraine, fail, and successfully defend Bucovina. Then start again the same. After 3-4 cycles, who cares again?

ePoland has a challenge, to conquer eGermany. Accomplished easily, then slowly, PHX somehow liberates eGermany. Then again. Who is really interested in this, after two cycles?

eSerbia, as the stronger member of the Natural Enemy pair, is always interested in erasing eCroatia. It was done in the summer, perhaps about to be done now, and? What to do afterwards? Try it again? Boring. Boredom caused the change of side in eBulgaria, too - I wonder if they find their new role more interesting now?

This is the main problem now. Boredom of cyclic wars.

If someone thinks in eHungary that ePoland wants to quit EDEN (or even join the PHX), he is seriously wrong. Would anybody in eHungary to quit the PHX and to join the EDEN? I hardly think. What we are seeking, both in ePoland and eHungary, is a new challenge. Obviously, it is backed by the RL friendship between the two nations. This new challenge is ofted manifested in the idea of New World Order (NWO), a new distribution of alliances.

As I concluded 8 months ago, the most powerful countries of Central Europe have two opportunities: to drain their superior strength against each other or to cooperate to find more resources and of course, more joy in the game. Now eHungary and ePoland seem to be reached the critical point of boredom. If eSerbia and eCroatia follow them, it could be a focal point of some new and unpredictable change of e-history.

Some unpredictable. This is, what most of us need now. Not just change sides, which leads nowhere (see again the eBulgarians).

Moreover, there is another new change of the rules. Deleting orgs, and, as a 'side effect', movable companies - it is something really new. This side effect is the economic basis of the possible re-organization of the alliances. As I concluded a year ago, up to now, the alliances were 'wired in' ones, because of the expensive export license system. Now it is about to be over. So, the lamp is rather greenish now.


MAGYARUL


Új világrend – a ciklikus háborúk és a kétpólusú világ vége

Számos szabályváltozás történt a játékban az elmúlt hónapokban, és ezek elég fontosak is ahhoz, hogy az Új Világot háborúkkal töltsék meg, de a ciklikus háborúk mára nagyon unalmassá váltak.

Most ingyen van a támadás. Nem csak hogy ingyen van, de kötelező is, ha nálad a kezdeményezés. Kialakultak a „természetes ellenségek” párjai, régiónkban, ahogy az előre látható volt, a román-magyar és a szerb-horvát háború ilyen. Természetes ellenséggel szemben ráadásul az igen költséges hadüzenet ára is megúszható.

A következmények? Szerbia és Románia, az erős ellenségekkel vívott kétfrontos háborútól tartva békét kötöttek. A békekötés meglepte a szövetségi rendszereket. A Phoenix-oldal mindenesetre úgy tűnik, jobban elő volt készítve a lépésre. Horvátország viszont igencsak nehéz helyzetbe került, törésvonalak jelentek meg az EDENben, tegnap pedig Lengyelország elutasította a románok MPP-javaslatát. A mi oldalunkon is volt néhány nézeteltérés. A brazilok soká leplezett dühe Dél-Afrika és a TO-t támogató Magyarország ellen kitört, ami végül Brazília Phoenixből kilépéséhez vezetett.

De mi is a probléma most? OK, van elég háború, harcolhatunk. Az Új Világ fontosabb részein ezek a háborúk azonban ciklikussá váltak. Románia megtámadja SGP-t vagy NGP-t, elbukja. Megtámadjuk Máramarost, nyerjük vagy sem, ha nyerjük, tovább Bucovina, közben Máramarost visszaRW-zik, RW-ket nyitnak Ukrajnában, elbukják, megvédik Bucovinát. És megy ugyanez elölről. Harmadszorra-negyedszerre lázba hoz ez még valakit?

Lengyelországnak is van kihívás, elfoglalni a németeket. Könnyen teljesítik, aztán szép lassan a Phoenix felszabadítja e régiókat. Aztán újra. Harmadjára érdekel ez még valakit?

Szerbia, a „természetesellenség-páros” erősebbikje, mindig is el akarta törölni a horvátokat. Nyáron meg is tették, lehet hogy most is, és? Mit tehetnek utána? Harmadszor is? Unalmas. Az unalom miatt álltak át a bolgárok is – kíváncsi vagyok, a mostani szerepük vajon izgalmasabb-e?

Ez most a fő probléma. A ciklikus háborúk unalmasak.

Ha bárki azt hiszi idehaza, hogy a lengyelek ki akarnak lépni az EDENből, vagy pláne a Phoenixhez akarnának csatlakozni, az súlyosan téved. Idehaza bárki átállna az EDENhez? Nem, ők egyszerűen unatkoznak. Amit a lengyelek, és mi magyarok is keresünk, azok az új kihívások. Esetünkben persze az RL barátság jó bázis ehhez, de a lényeg mégis ez. Az új kihívások iránti vágy gyakran az „Új Világrend” (New World Order) körül, vagyis a más országokból összeálló szövetségek formájában merül fel.

Ahogy 8 hónapja leírtam, Közép-Európa erős hatalmainak két választásuk van: egymás ellen pazarolják el óriási potenciáljukat, vagy együttműködve szereznek több erőforrást és jutnak jobb szórakozáshoz (de rühellem a „játékélmény” szót). Mostanra mi és a lengyelek láthatóan eljutottunk az unalom kritikus szintjére. Ha Szerbia és Horvátország is eljut ide, az akár az e-történelem egy érdekes és kiszámíthatatlan fordulatát válthatja ki.

Valami kiszámíthatatlan – ez az, ami most a legtöbbünknek hiányzik.. Nem az egyszerű pálfordulás, az sehová sem vezet (lásd megintcsak a bolgárokat).

Ráadásul van egy újabb érdekes szabályváltozás. Ahogy az orgokat törlik, ennek egyik “mellékhatása” a cégek költöztethetősége – ez valami teljesen új dolog. Ez a mellékhatás az, amely a szövetségi rendszerek esetleges átrendeződéséhez a gazdasági alapot adja. Ahogy egy éve leírtam, eddig a szövetségek össze voltak drótozva, az igen drágán kiépült exportlicensz-rendszerek miatt. Most ennek hamarosan vége. A változás felé legalábbis zöldes a lámpa.

 
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Zsigeronto
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Zsigeronto Day 1,133, 01:31

első?

 
Mars Gradivus
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Mars Gradivus Day 1,133, 01:32

good article. vote

 
Zsigeronto
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Zsigeronto Day 1,133, 01:32

keduaxxx

 
Heidar
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Heidar Day 1,133, 01:34

Vote

 
Viktor16
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Viktor16 Day 1,133, 01:37

vote

 
Ryan Prologik
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Ryan Prologik Day 1,133, 01:37

All countries to go against eRomania, erasing and keeping it erased for months - THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHALLANGE, and perhaps a sign for admins to provide a fair game. HAHAHAHAHAHhh

 
Mars Gradivus
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Mars Gradivus Day 1,133, 01:40

fair game? good thing you mentioned it. the battle for Lika on saturday was the proof how hacks are easily done in this game.
All battles on that day worked except that one.
All high profile players know who did it. And admins are silent.

 
Argun
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Argun Day 1,133, 01:40

cool

 
Rockstarhun
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Rockstarhun Day 1,133, 01:41

Grats, this is a very nice and interesting article! Vote ofc!

 
atrej
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atrej Day 1,133, 01:45

Great analysis!

 
torma99
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torma99 Day 1,133, 01:54

Vote!Good article!

 
Smach
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Smach Day 1,133, 02:07

Vote!

 
Rodric
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Rodric Day 1,133, 02:20

Very good article! Big, big vote!

 
carpediem4life
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carpediem4life Day 1,133, 02:33

All countries to go against ADMINLANDIA=eRomania or/and eUSA=eMasterCard, erasing and keeping it erased for months - THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHALLANGE, and perhaps a sign for admins to provide a fair game.

 
Thorongil
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Thorongil Day 1,133, 02:46

jé vmi ilyesmire jutottam tegnap az egyik kommentemben : D
ez jót tesz az egómnak : D

 
Szithy
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Szithy Day 1,133, 02:50

Novus ordo seclorum.

 
Cirbolya
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Cirbolya Day 1,133, 02:51

mega vote :-}

 
N.D.Tobias
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N.D.Tobias Day 1,133, 02:53

As it was concluded months ago:
1) Unite the great european powers and try to erase the USA.
2) Force them to use their magic cards.
3) Give admins a chance to buy new servers and hire better programmers.
4) Profit!

 
lacca_81
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lacca_81 Day 1,133, 02:54

vote

 
allfornothing
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allfornothing Day 1,133, 03:02

Fully agree with all your points! As far as I can judge an MPP between Hungary and Poland could be a milestone in the history of eRepublik. : ) Not just because at the moment we are "enemies" but 'cause we could fight for each other as hard as we are fighting now for the Serbians.

 
dupi
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dupi Day 1,133, 03:15

vote

 
TracyMcGrady
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TracyMcGrady Day 1,133, 03:26

vote..

 
Quicksilver's Ghost
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Quicksilver's Ghost Day 1,133, 03:26

I wrote very similar ideas in my article about the dead boring national enemy pairs of today, instead of the exciting, compley campaigns of the past:

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/dead-boring-tot-lis-unalom-1616414/1/20

 
Mars Gradivus
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Mars Gradivus Day 1,133, 03:29

@allfornothing
Serbians fought for eHungaria also very hard. Don't forget that. As I know you did for us. Many times.
My best moment was defending of LK in v2. When ~50 Hungarians came in the night, around 5am. I will never forget that night.

 
MarosszekKapitanya
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MarosszekKapitanya Day 1,133, 03:36

All countries to go against eRomania, erasing and keeping it erased for months - THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHALLANGE, and perhaps a sign for admins to provide a fair game. x3

 
simon santo
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simon santo Day 1,133, 03:42

CROMANIA WILL LIVE


HAIL EDEN

 
titziano
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titziano Day 1,133, 03:44

ha ha ha /......ALL against ROMANIA... are you afraid of us....ha ha ha .....come on all....ha ha ha... cowards ..........

 
Crista22
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Crista22 Day 1,133, 03:47

New World Order! Hm.. this sounds like a conspiracy! Good article, Nalaja : D

 
outisz
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outisz Day 1,133, 03:50

right now, we play the erep v.3. it is a completely new game, with the old problems. I still have the feeling that we play in the world of 1984 (orwell). The cyclic wars, the totally simplified daliy life is just something to change.

 
Rains
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Rains Day 1,133, 05:21

Great analysis. I was wondering why Poland changed its orientation.

 
MilanLecic
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MilanLecic Day 1,133, 05:33

Great article. o/

 
Ymdar
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Ymdar Day 1,133, 05:38

needs moar pix

 
kl_laci
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kl_laci Day 1,133, 06:48

Voted

 
EternalFlameOfFreedom
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EternalFlameOfFreedom Day 1,133, 07:12

Really good article :)

 
Gregory Gallangher
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Gregory Gallangher Day 1,133, 07:30

New world order, closer than you think ; )

 
allfornothing
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allfornothing Day 1,133, 07:47

@Marko St

Of course you are. I know that well! : )
I just wrote an example. Sorry for leaving eSerbia out from it.

 
burakkocamis
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burakkocamis Day 1,133, 08:00

Voted.

 
Kandon
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Kandon Day 1,133, 08:09

do you mind if i'm translate this article to bahasa indonesia? : )

 
Nalaja
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Nalaja Day 1,133, 08:12

Kandon go on ; D

 
urban cohort
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urban cohort Day 1,133, 08:15

voted

 
Haptoh
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Haptoh Day 1,133, 08:33

No, all countries ereasing Servia and keeping it for months would be better, cos we all are sick of your crying for lost battles. Its always bugs/cheats/mastercard/not enough penix help when you lose a battle, but you never say its your fault... Who doesnt agree?

 
Polgar_1984
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Polgar_1984 Day 1,133, 08:35

USA would be a good playground with its 50 regions. Also include all countries, so new places like Africa would give another place to fight for.

 
Amiron
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Amiron Day 1,133, 08:47

Hát az, unalmas. Erre már rájöttek adminék is szerintem, azért rakták bele a máramar.. akarom mondani a szarvasos küldetést és társait.

Amúgy mi a baj a játékélmény szóval?(:

 
Nalaja
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Nalaja Day 1,133, 08:50

kopott

 
Victor R. Alvers Jr
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Victor R. Alvers Jr Day 1,133, 09:16

Vote, végre egy színvonalas cikk mások mocskolódása helyett. Köszönöm.

 
Proteneb
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Proteneb Day 1,133, 09:19

We will see in future how will be new corporations.

 
ri4ndri
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ri4ndri Day 1,133, 10:16

maybe, it's a fresh start for a new change?
or deleting this MPP rule and Natural Enemy?

 
RedCard
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RedCard Day 1,133, 10:23

new economic rule form admin make war between 2 country. not war between big polar

 
Fausto Sousa
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Fausto Sousa Day 1,133, 10:36

Lets join together and erase USA and Romania

 
devilers96
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devilers96 Day 1,133, 11:08

Sounds like cool.. Let's erase them

Voted!

 
ReijoRitari
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ReijoRitari Day 1,133, 11:25

All hail opus dei!

 
LcfR
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LcfR Day 1,133, 11:40

I like this:

Ryan Prologik Day 1,133, 01:37

All countries to go against eRomania, erasing and keeping it erased for months - THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHALLANGE, and perhaps a sign for admins to provide a fair game.

   
DacusDaniel
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DacusDaniel Day 1,133, 12:46

All countries to go against eRomania, erasing and keeping it erased for months - THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHALLANGE, and perhaps a sign for admins to provide a fair game.

X10000

Sure it is A GREAT CHALLANGE to fight against a country that isn't in top 10.

If this is A GREAT CHALLANGE for you, we are very proud.

The formidable serbian war machine it is not enough for you. You need also some "bored" traitors to make A GREAT CHALLANGE.

Your hate keep us alive.
If you can do in RL (because WE RULE), maybe you TRY in this game.

 
xongorx
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xongorx Day 1,133, 13:05

hát igen. valami csak kellene, amiért akár chatre is felmegy az ember.

 
xongorx
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xongorx Day 1,133, 13:06

mondjuk think big, oszt neki festeni a térképet nagyba

 
Rexdeus
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Rexdeus Day 1,133, 13:28

Only to make more money

voted

 
Peterbond
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Peterbond Day 1,133, 13:32

dacus: well Romania never lost more than 3 regions. i wonder if we win 3 regions again will there be a nother rule change and romanian tanks will worth more than 1000 people.

 
Giwrgos Paloukhs
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Giwrgos Paloukhs Day 1,133, 14:12

@Huns
If you want a challenge ,join EDEN

 
Scoundrel
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Scoundrel Day 1,133, 14:15

maybe you're right with ciclic wars,however I don't think Poland can join Phoenix or Hungary can join EDEN

 
rayodl
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rayodl Day 1,133, 16:58

Agreed

 
Maegalodonus
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Maegalodonus Day 1,133, 17:16

Voted. Onwards to the Atlantic coast stomping whoever country dares to resist and then across it.

We europeans have a moral duty to bring democracy to America. Particularly, USA and Brazil, I heard they're ruled by dictators.

 
radiant light
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radiant light Day 1,133, 18:19

great one'

voted

 
bontor
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bontor Day 1,133, 19:44

voted

 
Scadens
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Scadens Day 1,133, 21:47

Finland and Estonia are hours away from signing peace, because of the same reasons. Boredom. Why drain gold from the economy all the time in senseless war? Either side would need to spend thousands and thousands of gold to beat the other one - all the while both countries are too weak to keep their regions against concentrated RW effort.

The only way for admins to learn their lesson is that we stop the wars. This limits their income and forces them to rethink the game yet again.

 
reebeezlee
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reebeezlee Day 1,133, 22:15

yeah, stop all the wars, everywhere, until some strategy is forced back in the game

 
eagle one
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eagle one Day 1,134, 02:27

Voted!

 
Dan/naD Wilshire
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Dan/naD Wilshire Day 1,134, 03:55

Yo, you stole my party name.... Not cool... I will sue!

 
lesifotos
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lesifotos Day 1,134, 04:56

All countries to go against eRomania, erasing and keeping it erased for months - THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHALLANGE, and perhaps a sign for admins to provide a fair game. x39877657445

 
Barbarians
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Barbarians Day 1,134, 08:52

reebeezleeDay 1,133, 22:15 yeah, stop all the wars, everywhere, until some strategy is forced back in the game
x2

heptoh if we cant fight, becose somebody doing ddos attack on erep servers its normal to say its cheating ;) One eSerbian unit can erse your pathetic country. Bye.

 
nightwica
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nightwica Day 1,134, 12:14

CTRL+C CTRL+V:
All countries to go against ADMINLANDIA=eRomania or/and eUSA=eMasterCard, erasing and keeping it erased for months - THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHALLANGE, and perhaps a sign for admins to provide a fair game.

AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!444

 
Kxrt
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Kxrt Day 1,134, 13:21

Interesting thoughts! So everybody is seeking for a change. eBulgaria has foreseen that...

 
topspeed
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topspeed Day 1,134, 14:05

cyclic wars are boring and we need a change, that part I totally agree with.

 
liubang
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liubang Day 1,134, 19:03

v

 
exohoritis
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exohoritis Day 1,134, 21:30

Τhe article focuses on a key ingame problem...And the author is right, it becomes increasingly boring. Natural enemy and automatic battles should be immediately removed. Health packs should be limited. Influence gaps between strong and medium players should be balanced, no more than 2000 per hit, a medium player should hit 500, 4-1 against the strongest like Rising. Purchase of golds should be limited and made cheaper. Retreat button should be allowed after the difference is grown to more than 4 rounds (like 5-1). Citizenship should remain unchanged for at least 3 months, so that No Ptos happen again. Congresses should become MUCH smaller.

 
JPierreD
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JPierreD Day 1,134, 21:46

I highly respect Nalaja. Yet another great article.

 
El.Pistolero
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El.Pistolero Day 1,135, 23:53

Lets join together and erase USA

 
stefanzor
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stefanzor Day 1,135, 01:11

Hating Hungary should be fun, instead it's become boring with this constant war.
This being said, I would be PRO for an European Alliance against the rest of the world : D.
Ok, there's much hatred between Romania and Hungary, Croatia and Serbia, Greece and Turkey/Macedonia and so on, but it's a game after all and a change would be good.