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by Gareth.4686
For those of you who don't know the eUK government want the UKPP and the Royal Navy to sever ties and become two independent (they can still cooperate much in the same way as they do now) units. That being said there is much resentment and ill-feeling, particularly in the UKPP.
Sir Nick Griffin, current UKPP vice president, stated earlier that "[the] Government's plan to strip [the] Royal Navy from The UKPP is ludicrous. [The] RN has always been UKPP. Why change? People are leaving because of it!"
First and foremost, as Mr Knee said "The RN hasn't always been UKPP" and looking at the UKPP and the Royal Navy wikis in conjunction with reading History of the Royal Navy and The UKPP confirms this. In short, this is the second incarnation of the Royal Navy and it was formed on the 27th of January 2011, some 10 months before the UKPP was formed... As far as people leaving are concerned the only record I've found of someone leaving is Jamie2721.
It's clear that there is much disagreement about the right course of action, in opposition to Sir Nick Griffin's views WayneKerr commented earlier that it's "time for the Royal Navy to swim free..." and Mick Cain, current Royal Navy commander and UKPP member, said that he was "for the RN to wallow in the swell or sail full steam ahead for a greater future? I'm for full steam ahead." Furthermore it is clear that this feud could lead to, and possibly even is already causing, problems in both the UKPP and the Royal Navy. My feeling is that it's this that can, and will, lead to people leaving. Before he left earlier Jamie2721 commented earlier "think it's time to move to another party. Good luck UKPP", so far he has been unavailable for comment as to why he left, but, perhaps, the most obvious interpretation of his statement would suggest my theory is correct.
I think what we all need to remember and focus on is that we are a democracy and therefore we need to plan and allow for the views of the many, rather than just those of a few. Furthermore we need to do what is best for the eUK as a whole, remembering that the eUK is bigger than either the Royal Navy or the UKPP.
So maybe it is time to bite your tongue,
to zip it,
and focus on the fact that we need to think of and do what's best for everyone.
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Jamie chose to leave the UKPP for his own reasons,absolutely nothing to do with this debate.He is still a member of the RN and as far as i'm aware has no plans to leave.There is no argument within the UKPP.How can there be when the UKPP is a multi MU party.The arguments come from certain elements in the RN.Having said that,the response i have had so far in regards the direction in which i wish to steer the RN,have been nothing but supportive.
I'm only going on what I've seen and there are certainly some conflicting opinions out there
Sorry if it sounded like i was having a go mate.....i was'nt.....it is a good article
Yeah the wiki Royal Navy and UKPP's Royal Navy are separate things. No way related to each other.
You see the RN had always been the UKPP's social hub, from the time I started up until I left the RN it was to all intent and purposes UKPP. Basically the UKPP was the political arm of the RN, not that the RN was the military arm of the UKPP. Everything we did, we did in the RN environment, UKPP came second. Then when I and others left the confines of the RN it seemed to open up the party feed. Over time it became more and more used. While UKPP went from strength to strength, the RN seemed to stagnate. It wasn't the RN community that got UKPP 3 terms in Government and the largest party in eUK. It was the UKPP community.
The RN is ran by some fantastic people, helpful, thoughtful and giving. RN members don't need the UKPP, and has proven the UKPP certainly no longer requires the crutch that the RN used to be. It wont be plain sailing and it certainly wont be an easy task, but both can come from this much stronger with the eUK gaining another long lived, proven MU.
The RN expanding itself can only be a good thing.
If anything, the possible move to Q7 will lead to the contracting of the RN, not expansion.
And mick, those 'certain elements' are most of RN suppliers.
Nick i have had nothing but positive feedback from our members,so where do you get your "most" from?
As for supplies,you obviously chose to ignore everything i said on IRC.
I said it was something i was looking into,if it is not feasible for the RN,then we will continue as we are with our present supplies.Plus we will not,i repeat NOT supply our sailors on a tier system.Our sailors will continue to be supplied the same amount across the board,regardless of level or strength.
My Q7 is available for the RN to use should it be required, you just gotta feed it WRM.
Thanks mate much appreciated