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GloveisLove
Last night the White House announced that they are no longer pursuing an alliance with Spoland, the reason being that public outlash was too strong and that it was discovered that Poland has no intention of creating a real new alliance, but simply wanted USA and Brazil to join them. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. The government left Terra in hopes of showing how serious they were in forming this new alliance, but when they asked Poland to leave ONE, Poland refused. Now since the government has exhausted all of its options, eUSA is now “neutral.”
A path of uncertainty.
Anyways, eRO-eBRO
Love is for Free.
Countriess cannot control the actions of citizens. But countries are made up of citizens. If you have been following international news, you would know that a select group of Romanian citizens have been attempting to PTO Brazil for just over a year now. This has been a point of frustration for both Brazil and Romania, Brazil because they had originally let them in so that its allies could enjoy bonuses, and Romania because the citizens are giving the country a bad reputation, and they are seeing Brazilian anger on the battlefield.
eCanada faced a similar situation from a group of Romanians as well, and the Brazilian-Romanian crisis reminded me of it, so I did some research and tried my best to show both sides of the story. And I want to say I have no problem with either Brazil nor Romania, I've even approved hundreds of players citizenships from both nations when I was Immigration Director and President. But I want to find the truth behind this crisis, thus the reason for an article.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/country/Canada/citizenship/applications/approved/306
😁Starting from that page onward you see a flood of Romanians joining eCanada.
At the time, tthen President Addy mentioned the PTOers in a few of his articles, this being one of them http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-state-of-the-union-day-1426--1883935/1/20
The Romanian Ptoers were definitely Romanian, but some had acquired South Korean citizenship, and then had re-acquired Romanian citizenship and applied for Canadian citizenship, thus Addy referred to them as “South Koreans” possibly to dispel any tensions between Canada-Romania. And the actual number of Ptoers in Canada was closer to 40+.
So I sat down and talked to Lego-Kun
So I’ve been following the Brozilian-Romanian situation closely as well. What I’ve concluded is that, the majority of the PTOers are from Nemesis (private Romanian MU) and other small affiliated groups, there is an estimated number of around 60+ of them, they are organized, and some Romanian ptoers were endorsed by the government, but the vast majority were not.
So I sat down with EddieJoe, the Brazilian CP when the crisis first began to emerge.
First official Romanian article here about this crisis here: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/romania-brazil-1994517/1/20
And recently the the Romanian government published another article, basically saying, we don’t support Nemesis but can’t do anything about them because of game mechanics, try harder Brazil to remove them, good luck.
Article found here: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-gov-official-statement-of-eromania-to-our-brazilian-friends--2080111/1/20
Well to be honest I think this second article is kind of pointless, it does not say anything new and doesnt even offer apologies, actually it makes Brazilians sound dumb, I am positive Brazilians know that they have work hard to block the PTOers xD And even compared to the old Romanian article, it is a downgrade in Romanian attitude towards this topic.
But I think from this article this is one of the more interesting comments I saw, a reference to the Romanian South Korea PTO. The author of that comment is Russian.
A Romanian citizen offered another side of the story after this publication:
And also, there was concern about a Nemesis member in eUSA after news of this crisis reached American attention:
But wait, the story gets even juicier.
Recently NEMESIS released an article detailing this situation and thoughts as well. It is a good read, I recommend you read it.
Nemesis article here: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-horror-pleading-nemesis-brazil-romania-love-story--2080567/1/20
So what do I conclude after all this? Well I conclude that Romania has a history of condemning the actions of their ptoers, but the majority of these ptoers have little trouble re-integrating into their society, some even become famous politicians and join the elite MUs. I conclude that the Brazilian anger can be considered justified, although this anger will not help relations at all and will only make both countries weaker in the long-run. Nemesis is a Romanian faction at arms against their rivals in eRomania, so they might even be purposely trying to destroy relations. I conclude that the actions of the few have unfortunately affected how a whole nation is perceived, but I think more could have been done in order to prevent this, unfortunately not much was done. I conclude that loose immigration policies and confidence in allied nations undermined Brazil’s sovereignty, and has unfortunately led to a strict immigration policy (it is very hard to get Brazilian citizenship now).
So all in all, I have a lot of sympathy for Brazilians and understand their anger, if they want to continue not MPPing Romania I think they are entitled to that right, but it won’t help either nation. And I think Romania has more to lose in this situation, because Brazil can easily keep its bonuses (it is surrounded by fairly weak nations), but Brazilian support at night greatly helps Romania. The only clear benefactor is ONE.
Comments
Pertamax
Now I just realized why I felt so wrong voting up lego-kun's excuse article yesterday for the Romulans in Brazil.
Totally forgot his attempt to PTO us when Addy was CP.
So much logs these days
@soli3d
I was too lazy to edit it out, so I just printscrn xD
Excellent article, well researched and thought out by the next President of America...
Glove
Glove
GloveisLove....
Grabbing popcorn...
here we go...
I dont like Romanians because their pto actions. I have few honest Romanian friends but I have to agree with Alexeipo.
Nemesis is a PTO group from Spoland. Now I know that.
Yep.
As you said, they easily reintegrate in Romenia. So not the brazilian government, but brazilians citizens fight against Romenia
Great Article.
Awesome!
I don't like USA IRL, they are too imperialistic and too shy to admit it.
But eUSA is a great country that I'd love to have as an ally and respect as a foe. Feel free to join ONE should you wish to or EDEN if that is what you prefer.
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Good English language history of the eRomanian PTO scourge.
Good Bro!
V+S+s
Great job!
1st. They DO care about Romania.
2nd. What turturica worte is a big BS, there were never a "private deal" between the brazilians gvt and nemesis, first CS given to them.
@hopez0r
1) I think its clear they care about Romania, eUS contact with them confirms it.
2) I didnt see a private deal either, its just what that guy wrote.
Excellent article
+v
hopez0r, one cannot make mistakes? Let's say it was a mistake supporting their CS. I can admit that. But WHY don't you say that on last elections a Brazilian party president proposed for congress a romanian player? With all the scandal and problems between our countries a well-known brazilian player makes THAT SPECIFIC kind of mistake?
Well, if you ask me, it was not incompetence, nor stupidity. It was a DELIBERATE "mistake".
Glove is love.
eUSA is not.
USWP is not.
V!
@titillica, "deliberate mistake"... oh god... in Brazil, many people hate a lot this PP now... if he did this only for his own pleasure and increase the conflict with each other... GENIUS!!!
😃
Shoulda made this into a movie.
An inconvenient Romanian....
You woulda made a ton.
Great Article!
NEMESIS and AQUILA must not be consider TEDEN MU anymore. They must be consider ONE and their members cant get suppies in TEDEN countries anymore.
corn de pop!
This is certainly the best article about this issue.
+V
@hopez0r
Nemesis MU members could not join eRomanian military channels, they could have joined only the civilian channel.
They applied one or two times to join the eRomanian military command channel and they were denied by the vote of the other military units.
And this is when they have relocated their members in another ecountry.
Between April 4th and April 7th 13 cs requests were approved in eBrasil for the members of the same MU at that time, Nemesis MU.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/country/Brazil/citizenship/applications/approved/160
eRomanian government could not have vouched for a MU that was not part of eRomanian army and in no case they could have vauched for an entire MU members to receive cs when eRomanian official MU commanders needed that cs.
So yes it was a private deal between eBrazilian government at that time and Nemesis; they hired a mercenary mu and Nemesis members (not only commanders) received cs.
I understand this is not very pleasant, but it does not change the facts.
Dumb Emma
'Shoulda made this into a movie.
An inconvenient Romanian....
You woulda made a ton.'
roflmfao....
Yes, this is it....Well explained.
lol "I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so." x2
Guys, fight for Hungary AGAINST ROMANIA. It's time to revenge ^ _ ^
@titillica
I know this "well-know brazilian player" very well, for years now, we aren't friends so I wouldn't have any problem in burning him for this if I thought that he did it intentionally, but that is not the case, it was a MISTAKE and I have no doubts of such, that ROMANIAN player disguised as BRAZILIAN, FOOLED him. Anyway, you can be sure that a lot of brazilians will never forget or forget his mistake.
@turturica
I understand this is not very pleasant, but if there were EVER any kind of "private deal" with my government I or someone from Brazil would know that.
@hopez0r
How will you call it then ? (:
Approving 13 cs between April 4th and 7th 2011 to the members of the same MU and no eRomanian army player receving cs in that period.
@turturica: the Congressman who approved 13 Nemesis cs (JuliusEhNozes) was blacklisted for giving citizenships without proper approval, he can never run for congress again.
Don't speculate if you don't know the situation. There was no private deal between Nemesis and Brazil, they did not come here as a mercenary MU, they came as an allied MU and fought for TEDEN as a consequence of being romanian, not as part of a deal.
@ItsMeYoshi
Besides him there are other 2 congressmen that approved cs for Nemesis members, he did not approved all the 13 cs and eBrazil as any other country with bonuses can't afford to give cs to all members of a MU just because they are from an allied country.
FACT: Brazilian's congress members, just a bunch of incompetent citizens 😁. GO GO NEMESIS!!!!
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Great Article!
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LOL, Glove DID inform him self by chatting with Lego-kun! So that's your truth? eSK went ONE after FSR left the country, don't bend the reality.
Truth is that now it's convenient to blame Romanians. When you needed our help you loved us, now we are the black sheep, good to blame?
Shame on you, all of you!
Nemesis has a member in eUSA that was elected several times in the eUS congress with no problems except from the trolls like the author of this article that tried to flame other people.
We speak of eUSA where turks have a party in the congress.
+1 googoodoll. What do you prefere, a romanian TO or a ONE allied country? And still no aswer for what turturica said. How can you explain all the CS aproved for members of that unit? By several congressmen?
Your congressmen SOLD the CS. This is the truth.
the fact is that they have the power to choose spain or poland as an ally, but you dont give brazil any chance for avoiding the take over.