The New Voice of the Libertarian Party! (new edit)
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by The Libertarian Ledger
*The New Libertarian Paper*
As most of you are aware, the LIBs are on a steady decline. Why, you ask? Well, there are a few reasons: Organization, lack of leadership and lack of excitement. With this paper, we plan to turn those three things around. We plan to give the LIBs the voice they deserve!
Inside:
1. Why a New Paper?
2. Presidential Endorsements *WITH RESULTS*
3. The IRC Chat
4. The New Libertarian Forums
5. Final Note
-edit- 6.Note From Talia
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Why a New Paper?
It's simple, really. HeadmistressTalia is our Party President. She is the only one with access to the traditional LIB Paper and, quite frankly, that paper isn't utilized enough. We all know Talia has been very busy in Real Life and we aren't condemning her for that, we simply felt the need to pick up the slack after this past Congressional Election where the LIBs only secured 5 seats. Five! As the second largest party, we should have, at least, double that number. The LIBs need a change and that change needs to take place before the new Party President Elections.
We, Daphne Lilac, Claire Littleton and Tom McDougal, felt the need to step up and, in a joint effort, regain a sense of organization within this party. We have nothing against Talia, but we understand that her RL issues are interfering with her duties as Party President. We don't intend for this to harshly overthrow her, but we felt something needs to be done, and soon. Which brings us to the next topic:
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Presidential Endorsements
The LIB party needs to come to a consensus about who we are going to endorse for this upcoming election. We will link you to each candidate's paper's here:
Scrabman - (United States Worker Party) -Scrabman/Bastion for June
Kyle321n (Nationalist Party supported by the Conservative Party and Feds) - I am America and So Can You
Emerick (Libertarian Party) - International Press, no Official Campaign Article
Robert Bayer (Socialist Freedom Party) - Official Candidacy for President
We urge you to check out each candidate before you vote in the poll below to make an informed decision. Once you do, go to the poll below and register your vote.
Rules:
1) You must be a Libertarian to vote.
2) You must link your profile page for verification or your vote will not count.
3) You must respond to a PM sent by Daphne Lilac, Claire Littleton or Tom McDougal to verify your vote. If you do not, your vote will not count.
The Poll will be an open poll. That means that when we publish the results, people will see who you voted for. This is for the sake of transparency to ensure that none of us tampered with the results. The results will then be sent to Talia for her to decide whether or not to honor your decision as a party.
The Poll: **CLOSED**
The Results: HERE
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The IRC Chat
Many Libertarians are not on the eUS Chats. We urge you to come to the chats to help build a stronger party. The chats are located here: eUS Chats
Once there, you will need to create a user name. Once you do that, you will be directed to the eUSA-Chatroom. Once there, in the textbox, type this: /join #uslibs. That will take you to the Libertarian Chatroom. Come and Speak up!
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The New Libertarian Forums
Claire Littleton has set up a new base for the Libertarian Party. It is located here: Libertarian Forums.
Go there and register! Go to the Registration page and follow the steps to be identified as a LIB. The point of these forums is to give the Libertarian Party a place to go that is OURS. It is modded by Libs, run by Libs and meant for Libs!!! We feel this is necessary to start promoting the Libs as an individual party, as opposed to the current eUS forums that are modded by several parties and the people who run the government.
Let's make these forums work!!!!
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Final Note
We would like to, once again, state that we are doing this for the good of our party. As of this moment, this team (Daph, Claire and Tom) were decided upon because both Daphne and Claire are running for Party President of the Libs this month. Tom is the neutral ground. Claire and Daphne feel as if they need to show that they can work as a team to promote the party and get this party back up on it's feet where it belongs!
If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to comment below or PM any of the three of us listed below. Also, please SUBSCRIBE to this paper and VOTE this article up so all LIBS can see it! Thank you and good-night!
Sincerely,
~Claire Littleton, Daphne Lilac, Tom McDougal - Proud Libertarians
--EDIT--
Talia has spoken:
Talia's Article: Time Out
In the article, she has named Claire Littleton the head of the LIB Party in her absence. This doesn't make Claire the PP, but makes her the head organization force behind the LIB Party until the next elections or if Talia returns before then. We would like to wish Talia luck in her break!
As most of you are aware, the LIBs are on a steady decline. Why, you ask? Well, there are a few reasons: Organization, lack of leadership and lack of excitement. With this paper, we plan to turn those three things around. We plan to give the LIBs the voice they deserve!
Inside:
1. Why a New Paper?
2. Presidential Endorsements *WITH RESULTS*
3. The IRC Chat
4. The New Libertarian Forums
5. Final Note
-edit- 6.Note From Talia
___________________________________
Why a New Paper?
It's simple, really. HeadmistressTalia is our Party President. She is the only one with access to the traditional LIB Paper and, quite frankly, that paper isn't utilized enough. We all know Talia has been very busy in Real Life and we aren't condemning her for that, we simply felt the need to pick up the slack after this past Congressional Election where the LIBs only secured 5 seats. Five! As the second largest party, we should have, at least, double that number. The LIBs need a change and that change needs to take place before the new Party President Elections.
We, Daphne Lilac, Claire Littleton and Tom McDougal, felt the need to step up and, in a joint effort, regain a sense of organization within this party. We have nothing against Talia, but we understand that her RL issues are interfering with her duties as Party President. We don't intend for this to harshly overthrow her, but we felt something needs to be done, and soon. Which brings us to the next topic:
___________________________________
Presidential Endorsements
The LIB party needs to come to a consensus about who we are going to endorse for this upcoming election. We will link you to each candidate's paper's here:
Scrabman - (United States Worker Party) -Scrabman/Bastion for June
Kyle321n (Nationalist Party supported by the Conservative Party and Feds) - I am America and So Can You
Emerick (Libertarian Party) - International Press, no Official Campaign Article
Robert Bayer (Socialist Freedom Party) - Official Candidacy for President
We urge you to check out each candidate before you vote in the poll below to make an informed decision. Once you do, go to the poll below and register your vote.
Rules:
1) You must be a Libertarian to vote.
2) You must link your profile page for verification or your vote will not count.
3) You must respond to a PM sent by Daphne Lilac, Claire Littleton or Tom McDougal to verify your vote. If you do not, your vote will not count.
The Poll will be an open poll. That means that when we publish the results, people will see who you voted for. This is for the sake of transparency to ensure that none of us tampered with the results. The results will then be sent to Talia for her to decide whether or not to honor your decision as a party.
The Poll: **CLOSED**
The Results: HERE
___________________________________
The IRC Chat
Many Libertarians are not on the eUS Chats. We urge you to come to the chats to help build a stronger party. The chats are located here: eUS Chats
Once there, you will need to create a user name. Once you do that, you will be directed to the eUSA-Chatroom. Once there, in the textbox, type this: /join #uslibs. That will take you to the Libertarian Chatroom. Come and Speak up!
___________________________________
The New Libertarian Forums
Claire Littleton has set up a new base for the Libertarian Party. It is located here: Libertarian Forums.
Go there and register! Go to the Registration page and follow the steps to be identified as a LIB. The point of these forums is to give the Libertarian Party a place to go that is OURS. It is modded by Libs, run by Libs and meant for Libs!!! We feel this is necessary to start promoting the Libs as an individual party, as opposed to the current eUS forums that are modded by several parties and the people who run the government.
Let's make these forums work!!!!
___________________________________
Final Note
We would like to, once again, state that we are doing this for the good of our party. As of this moment, this team (Daph, Claire and Tom) were decided upon because both Daphne and Claire are running for Party President of the Libs this month. Tom is the neutral ground. Claire and Daphne feel as if they need to show that they can work as a team to promote the party and get this party back up on it's feet where it belongs!
If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to comment below or PM any of the three of us listed below. Also, please SUBSCRIBE to this paper and VOTE this article up so all LIBS can see it! Thank you and good-night!
Sincerely,
~Claire Littleton, Daphne Lilac, Tom McDougal - Proud Libertarians
--EDIT--
Talia has spoken:
Talia's Article: Time Out
In the article, she has named Claire Littleton the head of the LIB Party in her absence. This doesn't make Claire the PP, but makes her the head organization force behind the LIB Party until the next elections or if Talia returns before then. We would like to wish Talia luck in her break!
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I'm not a Lib, but its good to see you guys trying to help your party in whatever way possible.
Claire's coup is beginning...watch out Crom, you're next.
lawl.
good to see you guys doing something for your party.
-j
There was a Libertarian Party?
This party hasn't been legit since the days of Beta and Emerick's reign. All following was and will be fail.
We shall see what we shall see. Etc.
Good point, Josh Frost. That's why this is being done.
Rocco, you are just a bitter bitter man.
Bitter x2? Harsh. I was only stating the obvious.
Good for you. I left the Libs, for mostly personal reasons. but I can definitely see the need for this. I wish you all well.
Subscribed, and ignoring the naysayers. A little bit more organization would be good for the Libs. Keep up the positive outlook.
Instead of everyone just posting what they believe in, let's have an actual debate in the forums?
Good luck, Libs. Voted 🙂
B'nei Noah, we need to amp up the forums as they are new. Start posting some debates! I urge it! Thanks Aero, Crut and Cerb.
I'd like to renew the manifesto debates, to settle on the language for the various sections of our party manifesto, y'know? If there's room for a "Master Debator" 😛 I'm game.
Claire, this is a blatant power grab. There's no need for a second paper or third party forums. Talia has stated several times she would welcome and gladly publish articles in the Lib Bulletin.
Publius, my name isn't the only one on this. And no, it's not a power grab. Several members have been trying to PM Talia for days now and I know that she has had some RL issues. This is just LIBs taking a stand, Publius.
Well, it is a power grab because the three of you decided to bypass the current forums entirely and publish an article from an org shares the party's name.
I know you're too young to remember the old Lib forums, but separate party forums are a terrible idea and bad in practice.
I hope Talia returns and brings order here but, in the event that she can't, it is good that Libs are trying to keep things together.
"Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?"
This paper will not help turn around a struggling party. But good try.
Also, putting Emerick on your ticket is a sure way to continue your decline. Just saying...
Oh... *cough* *cough* power *cough* *cough* grab *cough* *cough*
Good luck, guys!
GL, Claire, Daph, and Tom. Hopefully, you can bring together the Libs in Talia's absence. Though, I hope she comes back too. We all miss her.
Good luck, Libs. Recapture the fire.
"Also, putting Emerick on your ticket is a sure way to continue your decline. Just saying..."
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
well, ive been involved with the party, but im sick of signing up for so many things to play this game. no new forums for me, and i havent touched irc in a few years.yeah, have fun people, good luck.
Haha... one of five 🙂
MUTINY!!!!!!!!!!!!
hahaha
To you naysayers, this is the first LIB based article that has bypassed 70 votes since ... well... that I can ever remember. The forums have had a bunch of people sign up, the chat has picked up as well. We also already bypassed the number of Presidential Endorsement Poll Participants from what we had last month...
Things are looking on the up and up!
@Em_knaps we didnt put emerick on our ticket he has been talking about running so he is in our poll. Its interesting to see an "impartial" judge in emerick's case on the forums come out and insult him in public.
It'll be interesting to see whether or not bypassing the traditional party leadership (Talia, Publius) ends up paying off or backfiring...
Best of luck to you, LP! 🙂
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Anyone but Scrabman really. Endorsing a crook and someone who cant follow his own orders is something real libertarians would NEVER do.
I vote Kyle321n for our endorsement.
ALso beware of political idiots from the USWP swapping party just to ensure scrab gets another endorsement.
Too organized and in line libertarians is an oxy moron.
External forums become a hassle with people having to sign up and keep up to date on just so many websites. The IRC is good, it's been there for a while it's just personally, I don't think it's necessary. How much can a party talk about between it's members that it deserves an entirely separate channel? Congress, PP, and President elections are the only times they'd really be used for party matters, and I think forums could hold the burden much easier than having 15 people shouting.
On the presidential ballot, I voted Emerick for the hell of it. I'm leaving the country in a few days so that part I don't think really includes me.
I guess I should also say it's been p fun being a lib in congress the previous two months, and will miss it in my travels down south.
Plus. I can't believe I wasn't included in this re-structuring :/
Chisholm, you dork. You don't want reform, yet you want to be apart of it. Haha. We will surely miss you when you go to Peru. Maybe, just maybe, one day I will come visit!
While I have not always agreed with every member of the Libertarian Party, I have always had the greatest respect for the party's focus on the integrity and institutional support of independent thinking and personal liberty. I also think that the idea of developing a stronger organizational structure as mentioned here is also a benefits to any Party.
However, my personal viewpoint is that the absence of leadership approval and the lack of acceptance of dissenting viewpoints by prominent former party leaders, such a Publius, makes this appear as more of an opportunity to co-opt an established party rather than having the courage to invest in a new party that, while respecting the prominent Libertarians of the past, can cast the unique vision espoused by the leaders here.
Claire, Daphne and Tom, while I authentically wish you all success in the future, I would hope that you would leverage the in-game mechanics of political party creation to further your goals rather than perform what amounts to a coup of an existing, and historically respected, political party.
Most success to the Libertarian Party whatever the future may hold.
It's not a coup when the Party President is missing before Presidential Endorsements are around the corner. Also, so you all know, I have PMed Talia and told her that we will share all information collected with her.
We aren't staging a coup, we are simply doing what needs to be done in the absence of our PP. She never named a VP, so we took it upon ourselves to guide the party until her return. If she does come back and takes some sort of action, then great for her! We welcome it and will include her in on all the new changes (that she can either approve or disapprove of). We aren't negating her position as arty President, we are still respecting her role, but we are also taking a much needed step at this point to keep the LIB party running.
why would the libertarians even consider scrabman or bayer?
...i think if you do that you would just be sellouts.
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I say endorse Kyle or Emerick cause Scrab needs to be replaced.
Regardless of whether you think this is a coup or a smart idea, the forum is just increasing communication which is the real solution to our problem. To be honest i couldnt find many good chat or forum rooms for libs before this. And it also weeds out people who have no buisiness being there and just like to be an asshole about everything.
Alright, I'd have to agree with Publius. Total power grab. And coincidentally, both Claire and Daphne are on the ticket for PP. Talia isn't completely missing, just less active then she should be. She has said she would be glad to publish articles, just write them. As for the forums, we already established that we wouldn't because they're too much of a hassle, and segregate us from the rest of the country. Sorry, and I don't blame you if you get pissed 😃
The upcoming PP election will determine if its a power grab or not. If they dont win it kinda does look like a power grab. If one of them are elected then they were just listening to the will of the people, bc just bc someone is in an elected position doesnt mean they cant lose favor with their constituants. Thats what democracy is all about, replacing the old with the new. and the power lies in the hands of the people.
Joeyhens1, that is great that Talia will publish articles and whatnot, the problem is, she has been MIA since the day before Congressional Elections! People have tried to PM her. Mjdiv is one who has been trying to get her response to attend the summit of party presidents now for days. That is an issue. As of right now, our party is not represented.
But what's the point of a newspaper when we can send out PM's that will actually be read?
Joey, if we were sending out messages that were being read, this would not have happened. I'm a little wary of the new forums myself, and yes, this was somewhat of a power play. However, Talia's continued silence is bothersome. Like it or not, somebody needs to do something. And this is something.
South Africa's PTO of Brazil!
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Joey, we did send out PMs! To over 800 Libs yesterday. And more to come tonight! I am not anti-PMing, obviously. PMing people to read articles and stimulate public conversation is a good thing.
OK I'd like to speak for myself, and sorry Claire since you've had to fend off the naysayers here.
To the people saying this is a simple power grab you are wrong. Although it seems preferable to 'just start a new party' we're in this party for a reason and don't want to abandon it b/c the current PP has gone MIA. And yes as Claire mentions she was AFK since before the congressional elections. Now- I'm not here to level personal accusations but this is about the business of running a party successfully. We cannot stand by and allow our party to slide into further obscurity because we lack leadership. We cannot go through further election seasons without coordination and cooperation throughout our party to help our party members become successful etc. It is not our fault that our party is left rudderless currently. Additionally just because Claire and I are in fact running for the PP doesn't mean that we inherently 1) are going for a power grab, 2) are staging a coup, 3) don't have the best interests of this party in mind.
Running for this office does not prove anything as far as I'm concerned. I have no need or desire for more 'power' in Erepublik. I have been content to be a casual observer of politics for quite awhile now since Beta and my period as a more active participant in politics. But I don't also want to see this party fail when I remember it being one of the best parties in eUSA under Nave back in beta. I see needs and I wish to organize the party and fulfill those needs. I see nothing nefarious about this.
- Daphne Lilac
I don't consider this a coup or powergrab... Sam Brusca makes a valid point, that the voters will decide who controls the party. In the absence of a PP or VP, someone should step in to keep the party active and going until their return or if the party elects another, and I consider it a generous expenditure of effort for them to do so... As a Libertarian, I am in no way offended by this undertaking. I would in fact be more annoyed if, due to a regrettably absent PP, Libertarians were not represented and unable to endorse a Presidential candidate.
"I know you're too young to remember the old Lib forums, but separate party forums are a terrible idea and bad in practice." -Publius
To be honest, new forums may be precisely what this party needs. Most people talk about how the Libertarian party is so large, and yet can barely hang onto a few Congressional seats. New forums might help weed out the inactive from those willing to actively make a presence and vocally contribute to the direction of the party which I feel has more or less been aimlessly adrift lately.
What we need is some excitement and new things like this to help revitalize the party, with charismatic speakers to encourage our members to get a little organized, vote, and make a difference... And of course the other parties wouldn't want to see a Libertarian revival with our numbers, lest they actually have more competition in certain states. It's obvious to see why some are decrying the new forum and newspaper, rather than simply wishing our attempt the best of luck.