The Journal – Why Malbehk Is Right
MR. HANK SCORPIO
The Journal – Why Malbehk Is Right
“PEOPLE who start their own MU's do so for a variety of reasons…But mostly, it's for themselves. So basically, people who run their own MU's are selfish” Malbehk nails it in one of his most recent articles in which he discusses the flooded market of Irish MUs. The article, found here, goes on to explain that dividing up a small population into various militaries only handicaps the country as it spreads our national damage output around, casting some of it into possibly irrelevant battles. Malbehk makes some great points in his piece making it well worth the read and I’d like follow it up and look further in detail at how big this division is, why it is so big & can we do anything about it?
How many is one too many?
At present there are 18* privately owned paramilitaries operating in Ireland. Combined they employ a total active member count of 60–65 recruits making them roughly 85% the size of our State’s army, splitting our nations fighting forces almost in half. With the average weekly output of damage at 4 million per citizen (800,000 influence higher than the UK) this should be a Government issue but it’s not. In fact it’s quite the opposite with 3 Government Ministers members of these private MUs along with our President who fights for Labour’s Army, the military wing of the Independent Labour Party.
State forces vs Private MUs, total influence inflicted over the past week, smaller MUs are not listed in the key
Malbehk puts the blame of the high numbers of these private MUs on the selfish players who establish them and, although I agree I also recognise that they aren’t the sole reason for the split amongst Irish ranks. When I first looked at this issue I couldn’t quite understand how these MUs could attract so many soldiers. I knew part of the attraction was friends, political ideology or simply wanting to be a black sleep and not follow the crowd but that still didn’t explain the high numbers. That was when I dug a little deeper and uncovered the reason. Previous Governments.
Total members represented in blue, active members in red
Part of the blame can be pinned on previous Governments. Prior to the bank robberies numerous administrations backed a policy involving the Finance Ministry funding supplies for soldiers on the sole condition that they fight for EDEN. This paved the way for people from all backgrounds establishing their own paramilitaries without the burden of having to invest in the resources to manage one, all they had to do was simply ensure their members fought for Government decided DOs. The result was the founding of many military clubs effectively drawing soldiers away from the Irish Army and spreading our nation’s total damage capabilities around various groups. Whilst this was not an issue when the orders were being issued by the state it became one when the Ministry for Finance couldn’t sustain the costs & effectively withdrew the program. The country is now left with various paramilitaries, without the ability to support their members clutching to members through a political agenda or friendships.
So…what’s the plan?
How do we tackle these private MU’s and win back these soldiers? Malbehk already tried the democratic approach, asking MU leaders to dissolve their militaries and join the Irish Army. That wasn't successful. In my opinion the best way to tackle this issue is to treat it like a market and post offers your competition cannot match. Do weeks where you double supplies, increase a soldier wages or hold competitions. Don’t make IRC activities a requirement for supplies and be vocal with what you’re doing, contacting those you wish to recruit by a PM. A lot of these private MUs cannot offer their soldiers as high quality weapons as the State can, fight them on that front and you will certainly deplete their numbers.
Thank you for reading, please vote this article and post your opinion.
Fionn Mc Cool
*Excluding the 2 Libertad branches that operate in Ireland
Comments
*Excluding the 2 Libertad branches that operate in Ireland - Why are they not considered privately owned?
I have a few points to make but before I do I want you to know that I do agree with this article but it/was also very hypocritical of Malbekh to form his own MU soon after/before he released and article about how MU's should join the IA.
“PEOPLE who start their own MU's do so for a variety of reasons…But mostly, it's for themselves. So basically, people who run their own MU's are"
Straight off the bat this is true but only really because of the ICA. The reason the ICA was founded was to compete with then completely retarded and inefficient Irish Defence Force. Neither you or Malbekh were around for this so I find it laughable that you generalise every MU as being founded within your life span.
I suppuse you..
suppose*...you could say that the ICA are root of our MU problems as we were the first properly successful MU and basically showed everyone else how to do it. This meant that normal a lot more retarded citizens than Irishbhoy thought they could mimic the ICA and achieve our sort of fame. Which as you both rightfully said is a selfish reason.
But there is one major thing that MU's offer to the Irish Army and Ireland's improvement and that is competition. Without the ICA the IDF would..
I didn't include them as they are neutral in Irish & foreign affairs, they have their own agenda. I have no idea why there are two branches to be honest. I never realized Malbehk had formed his own MU in fairness to him his direct quote was:"People who start their own MU's do so for a variety of reasons. Set their own DO's, follow their own principles, ideological reasons etc. But mostly, it's for themselves. So basically, people who run their own MU's are selfish, and none more so that myself"
probably still be in existence and we would be wiped. The ICA offered an alternative to the inefficient national MU so what happens when/if the Irish Army become inefficient and stupid. If we try to enforce this 1 MU system like they did before the ICA citizens will forget what a good MU is and become too familiar with the status quo.
There was also another very big reason for providing funding for to other Military Units and this was because the Irish Army needed other Mu's in order to..
function as they didn't have adequate supply systems in place. I don't know about other Military Units but I know for a time the ICA has had IA members working in our communes at no extra cost. The government couldn't just provide funding to the ICA as it would cause national uproar with all the other MU's so it made sense at the time.
"The country is now left with various paramilitaries, without the ability to support their members clutching to members through a political agenda or friendship" - This is a very good point. Which is why the ICA do not actively supply it's members any more because we are not that type of MU any more. We are an MU for friendship as you said and I fail to see the problem with this. In my eyes, other MU's which cant continue to supply it's members with top quality weapons should or will..
eventually disband as logic should at some point prevail. That was the only reason the ICA refused to amalgamate with the Irish Army as we could provide more and better weapons than them at a time. Right now, we can't so we instructed all of our members to join the Irish Army. Those who stayed are the ones who care only for the ICA and having a bit of craic on IRC. We provide no other benefits.
Good article. Voted.
There is one branch of Libertad, Libertad-Ireland. And it should be included in those graphs along with the other unit to show how fragmented the damage truly is.
Straight off the bat this is not true*
The ICA should not be included in that graph as our purpose is not for influence output. Yet we're not doing too bad considering we don't supply shit and have a lot of inactive members.
Great first article Fionn.
v and s
Good job!
Ok keep in mind that I was unsure of the role of the ICA & the second branch of libertad.
You can't bully people into joining the IA, people have a right to join whatever MU they want, you can make the IA more attractive by all means and try and entice people to join it, but at the end of the day we are all free to join whatever MU we want to be part of, some MU's are comprised of friends who want to help one another and do so by helping each other out with supply, these are not a burdan on the state like the IA, so are in effect saving ireland money.
How much does an IA soldier cost Ireland daily in supply??
how much does one of these other MU soldiers cost - absolutely nothing, leave the independent MU's alone, they serve Ireland as well as any state one, maybe better.
You are taking our money as well to buy these supplies. Shut up this factually incorrect stupidity. For one Sons Of Dublin was created to honor the city of Dublin. it has and will never give a shite for goverment supplies. I have never asked players why they join but see them carrying on nicely on their own.
Our programmed top priority is Ireland and with limited available DO we attack usually the nearest countries otherwise which the IA also does. furthermore this is the effin internet...
you numptie. Lets give you a scenario I tell my alliance ok we pitch up at fight location A and then move to fight location B in another online game. 60% will be offline , then about 3 will follow the order so in the next one you put 1 battle at a time. For the simple reason you are never going to coordinate players that is basically disconnected with complicated order. Only will be the 24/7 croud that will manage a complex order. So forget about the IA and complex coordinated strikes ....
K.I.S.S KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID
Brilliant article.
The "Part of the blame can be pinned on previous Governments" paragraph was spot on. @Nogin, IA solider don't cost the state - didn't when government handed out supplies either.
Great article!
Very impressed. VERY impressed. Keep up the good work.
FYI, I founded The Malcontents after releasing numerous articles based on exactly the issues you portray. The fact of the matter is that most people could see what I was getting at, but nobody (as bloody usual) was actually prepared to do anything.
So MU started around the same time as The Belfast Brigade as both MUFC and myself were unhappy with the current MU structure and just weren't having any fun.
V+Subbed.
Good article, but isn't the IA effectively just another military unit, albeit the largest one and one that is/will be funded by government? I can't speak for any of the other units, but I joined LA solely because it was the military wing of the ILP and I've no intention of leaving as things stand. I have no problem with co-ordinated strikes with the IA, though, and I'll be there tonight doing my little bit in the strike.
So I've made the leap to the IA having pointed out to everyone how and why I think they should move. So not much hypocrisy there to be honest. Where do we go now? Well, the best answer is combined MU strikes coordinated by the Irish Army as per tonight. Let's see how that goes, it will probably take a few more attempts to get any continuity.
In the meantime, let me be clear. Never again will the MoF be able to afford to fund the Irish MU structure. NEVER. AGAIN.
The IA is the only MU that belongs to the MoD. It doesn't have to cost the state anything to have IA soldiers - they can work in communes and fight on those supplies or self supply. The cost is the cost of commune infrastructure. Wearing an IA avatar makes eIreland visible internationally when other citizens can see our colours in battle. The whole point here is to have more citizens under single DOs, it would make it so much easier to coordinate and make us much more efficient. Just facts.
IA have communes, suppliers and country is just helping to make those supplies even better so we can attract everyone to join Irish Army, because it's only DoD MU, only MU that follow Government orders no matter what. IA is contributing country with some part of production aswell. And country helps IA by paying raw materials to commune holders.
From other MU's only ICA as legendary and biggest Irish MU, Libertad as private Greek MU and BC as MU for newbies should stay active in my opinion.
well if somebody else was Mof for a bit they could perhaps know the intricacies of the IA. still citizens money do help supply bootcamp so its lousy to never supply any other MU besides the IA /Bootcamp. if your still saying its communes that supply even bootcamp why the tax hike?
"The fact of the matter is that most people could see what I was getting at, but nobody (as bloody usual) was actually prepared to do anything."
The ICA did something when it was logical for us to do.
"In the meantime, let me be clear. Never again will the MoF be able to afford to fund the Irish MU structure. NEVER. AGAIN."
I don't believe that and I will never believe that. We've been robbed several times over and each time getting growing more and more.
Lets be clear here the IA does not own any Q7 weapons companys, it has no Q7 infrastructure, the companys the IA soldiers are working in are private companys owned by citizens being used temporarily as IA Communes.
what does a weapon cost? 200 x wrm, or 14.00 IEP approx, x12 for irish production = $168 for wrm daily.
If IA supply is 9 weapons daily for Commune workers thats 126.00 IEP that the IA soldier costs
The 3 weapons thats left the Goverment sell to recoup costs - which is approx 54 iep
So each IA soldiers supply costs the Country 72 iep a day approx
Privately funded MU's are an asset to the state and if run correctly and do not place any drain on the country's coffers.
If Supply is more important than the MU you are currently in then the IA is probabuly the best place for you if your current MU is giving you less than 9 Q7 weps a day.
If however you place the social aspect of your current MU above supply, or do not need weapons (self sufficient) then your current MU is the best place for you.
At the end of the day every person is free to make there own choice and should not be considered selfish for exercising his right to choose what MU he joins.
"In the meantime, let me be clear. Never again will the MoF be able to afford to fund the Irish MU structure. NEVER. AGAIN."
If the state is running a commune system, then the cost of running it should be near nothing, it is upgrades to companies that cost any sort of real money. The defence budget should be entirely devoted to company procurement, any commune system that isn't self-sustaining is a failure of the operator
I can name at least four people that could this country's finances
could turn*
Malbehk already tried the democratic approach, asking MU leaders to dissolve their militaries and join the Irish Army.
I lol'd.
😁leave my multi alone!
If you think 'previous governments are responsible [for there being so many MU's]'
then your blaming me. I setup/maintained that system.
You also mentioned our average output being substantially higher than our nearest rival.
The liberal supply system is partly responsible for that also.
Since the State cannot pocess infrastructure directly anymore, the military is dependent upon wealthy/experienced players to provide production.
IA is actually poorly equipped for that function. That's why it's relied upon outsiders to provide it's infrastructure.
The 'problem' with our nation's military isn't so much having so many MUs. It's that key members of our military structure have become so disillusioned with the political structure of the country that they are barely playing (if they haven't emigrated).
Running those commune systems is a tedious chore. Running the national finance system is a fulltime job.
The ppl our military relied on to do those jobs tired of getting their hand bit.
That's why an MU like ICA, by far the strongest in our nation a few months ago (& the only one to receive any real international recognition) languishes now.
There was enough money left in the bank to allow the country to coast along for months while still running the free supply system. But ppl who had no understanding of it seized control of it, and it took them less than a month to lose it.
And the nation instilled the same responsibility to said ppl again.
There are ppl capable of relaunching the commanding military infrastructure that had our ranks expanding.
They've just been stripped of any desire to do so...
The finance system that supplied the nation with weapons/gifts would only take 20-30days to relaunch. It's not like the technology has been lost forever.
But is it worth the effort when those with dominion over it can't be trusted to defend the work invested?
Appleman is a sound chap btw, none of this is on his doorstep
Appleman is a sound chap btw, none of this is on his doorstep x2
"But is it worth the effort when those with dominion over it can't be trusted to defend the work invested?"
It's the responsibility of those who care to act against such... dominion.
^ "They've just been stripped of any desire to do so..."
Any capable eIrish citizen (other than a select few) have been shunned, insulted and driven from active play by the very people who Sweet talk about in his comments.
I haven't done anything of note for eIreland (except play a major part in the founding of the fu*king Irish Army) since I was wrongly impeached all that time ago and more than likely never will.
I worked my ass off for Ireland for 2 years before that and deserved better and will always hate you cunts. #JustAGame
Took a long time to find this.
Uhm, forming an MU is a game function and a personal choice. There is no "blame" to be apportioned anywhere. The usual driver is being p**sed off with the others on offer.
Good article though, a stimulus for another historical d*ck-waving egofest^.
~~hyuu~~
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