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You know, some of them are really quite likeable. But I don't at all like what's been done to this country.

Why should I listen to a ginger?

Took the words right out of my mouth, Daniel.

Also, it's useless to complain now. There's nothing we can do about it.

@devoid Proposal to join PHX came from opposition... its seems that a large number of opposition wants to join...

although I said i will support neutrality if majority wishes so.. I also said that I will support what majority says.... and when a number of opposition representative approached me with their wishes to join PHX I wasn't opposed to that idea...

And yet again you force your "PTO" agenda on us...

Money printing is a direct response to "reserve bank issue" ... we solved that issue but money was already printed...

And the issue with your "15/1/1" taxes is again your problem... most of us dont want "15/1/1" taxes and you cant except that...

So who is trying to PTO here? Us or you? Pushing your agenda even most of us dont agree with you...

Is this when we get to say "We told you so"?

Considering you didn't do anything to stop this, Andy, no.

Don, when the guys you've brought in form the majority...

guys, learn that they aren't all Serbians, neither is your president...
also they help you and you complain? pfff

Devoid, and who was the majority before them?

"Before them"?

It's not that you guys have been around for two years and suddenly "the serbs" show up and change everything. This country exists since October. Since the first elections they have a majority in congress. Most of the "this is our country, get lost" guys magically disappeared and went back when they lost the elections.

You can't really demand, just because you setup an IRC channel and forums some time before the country appeared, that these are for all times the "official" channels and you have some right to decide everything.

You have become a rather small minority, some of you kept the way of cooperating, some just stick to the PTO argument.

I don't really get this debate over and over again. If you want to change something, run for congress, get involved. You clearly won't succeed with insuls and accusations. You just drive "the serbs" further away to a point they won't listen to you anymore.

Reese - There was no majority.

Also, need I remind anyone that the eSerbian government called upon its citizens to come help make this happen? That's the sort of thing that happens during a PTO attempt.

They've taken over the Military too, so really, we can't do anything.

Obvious PTO is obvious, whether they admit it or not. By all definitions it IS a PTO, even if it wasn't intended to be. They need to understand that and change.

Everybody saw that PTOers are already left NZ. NZ is safe now.

You call the others PTOers, but they weren't. They took notice of the people, EVERYONE, not just the majority who happens to be your people. They included people, and ran the country as a real government.

It is a PTO by definition. You used mass numbers to force yourselves into power and are taking over every aspect of the country. That is a PTO.

They called for their friends just like everyone else did for an ATO.

Darkmantle, as I said before, I blame you for all that has happened. If you hadn't taken the money, I doubt things would be as bad as they are now.

You can make excuses, but that won't change my mind.

Americans go back to USA

@Adam Reese: I told you so

there`s no way, that you - minority, crying about PTO :😁
country belongs to the countrymen ! so, we can live all together, as one nation, or you can go somewhere else xD

"They've taken over the Military too..." LOL No, we leave it to you, to messing up the market & sending gifts to your "friends" ; )

Lucky you, my RL obligations keeps me out of game.

Otherwise... free eTexas o/

You were outnumbered, the PTO team has won the batlle!
1. choice - go home
2. choice - see other battles

@reaktionaer - good one!

vote, but next time I'll read the article first.

Adam, you're still being unintelligent. The true facts are totally different to what has been published publicly, so you really should keep your mouth shut until you know what really happened. I did not take the money. I told DOn more than once if he wanted money I would give it to him. I just refused to give ACCESS to someone who was not trusted. It was them that said I wouldn't give them anything, which is a total lie as I did a donation when they asked. It was them that printed money instead of talking to me. It's not hard to say "Send us 100G please to this org" or whatever!

Gillian, just as stupid. We didn't mess the market up. We were doing as ordered. We had to produce food, and sell enough to ensure we break even. Which meant selling the food for cheap. If you had just waited until it was sold which wouldn't have taken long, it wouldn't have messed up anything. And nobody donated to their "friends". The thefts were reported and dealt with, if that's what you meant?

Again, lack of intelligent responses and lack of knowledge really disappoints me. But then what do you expect from 2 trolls who don't actually give a crap about the country?

Phoenix?!

Andy, and yet you did nothing to stop this.

Darkmantle, you took control of the money, which means you took it, whether you want to sugarcoat it or not by saying you didn't do anything to it. By not allowing Don access, you incurred the wrath of those that had long suffered from hostility and antagonizing behavior.

As I said, I blame you for what has happened. You had no right to take control of the organization. It might have belonged to your owner, the owner might have given you the go-ahead to do so, but that does not mean that the population of eNZ said you could take control of their money, no matter how "righteous" you think your cause was, or how untrustworthy you thought Don and the others were.

You are reaping what you sowed. You are to blame. Don't even try to worm your way out of it, because you're not fooling anyone.

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U are all PTOers😛

Just jokes🙂 But there isn't much we can do about the current situation unfortunately.

Bring on the baby boom \o/ Our soccer team is better than our rugby team atm, and that just ain't keeping it kiwi lol.

Devoids tax system was better imo. And I hope we see some transparency in all Government transactions.

Time to leave.

I wanted to live in a neutral country..or at least awy from those stupid and crappy super alliances. Now eNZ becomes a PHX member 🙁 What a damn pity.

Oh and Adam is annoying too btw. Nothing but complaining. Haven`t read one friendly word since I came here 🙂 Nothing personal since I don`t know you..but it`s a fact for me.

And I don't want to be PHX🙁

YES! we are finally joining Phoenix!

Phoneix = me gone bye bye, so long new zealand, sorry you got raped by slimy serbs

Can someone please inform the public WTF is going on with these donations?

Darkmatle= 5000X bigger man than adam reese

Everybody saw that PTOers are already left NZ. NZ is safe now.

"And I don't want to be PHX🙁 "

Oh you dirty RL NZer PTOer you, trying to force your agenda on the Slovenes, who rightfully gained power in this country😛

mcmoox, you sir are a PTOer!!!! In the words of the illustrious Darkmantle "obvious PTO is obvious"

Andy, what exactly did you do besides piss people off? You were the worst IRC op I've ever seen, and every comment you made served to alienate others, not just me, and drove them to leaving eNZ. Choke on your lies.

Radu, that's because you don't pay any attention to what's going on. Give me one thing I had to be positive about.

ROT, "man" is subjective. "Coward" is more the word I was thinking of.

Xanthar, after your "Why Can't We All Just Get Along?" article, you've made your true intentions known.

I would recommend all former members of the eUS withdraw back to the homeland, eNZ is a lost cause. I'm looking at you, Devoid.

Yea, well I had only been here a couple of days when I wrote that article, now I see things the way they really are.

Darkmantle, you should pick your words more wisely...
Your dad is stupid, you know. And stop talking, over & over again, about some more intelligence ways out... it`s different point of view, not less or more wise ; )
just, cut it out kid...
things are not going to be, your way. All others : enjoy the game, please...if you can. And, behave your selves ; )

Stay well & have fun, and of course, free eTexas o/

@Ace

I would recommend you shut up.

Adam Reese is abhorrently and selectively blind.

Also, "I told you so"

Teddyyo, your articles didn't do anything but incite this action. You are one of the people responsible for this occurrence.

votado!

Love them or hate them the provisional government (calbe leading), feared country funds being sent to foreign nations. Darkmantle feared the same thing and did his duty. If he had given access to funds to the president and then the money was sent to another country/someone not in the interest of eNZ then we would want to tar and feather him. This eCountry was taken over by hordes of people with an interest that was not in the well being of the new nation. I don't know anyone else's motives but I came here to help a new country grow and prosper, not to help give some benfit to either super alliance.

Anyone know a neutral and growing eNation that the majority of players in are not trying to dominate it for the benefit of their former nations? If eNZ is ever free, I will be back.

I am new here, from eIreland. Came to avoid theft and infighting. Is this a pto or is it not? Given it had specific national backing? probably. What can you do though? Just keep fighting or not, I suggest keep fighting. Just on general principal.

It was not Darkmantle's "duty" to deny access to Don and the government to the money. It was his duty to assist them in using it, not hinder them.

If he didn't like it, then he shouldn't have accepted the job.

Reese Troll is bad Troll.

I'm glad that my fan club on eNZ is getting bigger every day XD

MCMOOX, dirty PTO congressmen of Canterberry !!!!

I am now immune on all labels "PTOs and other>>" from wanderer who came on NZ and try using bypass to take power, Government, or stealing money, who knows theirs intentions.

Why you are so angry if Adam Reese (who came from EDEN country) told truth? Truth is sometimes painful.

Relax and when opposition suggested to NZ join in Phoenix - how to say No???