Wake up Call or; How NE crossed the line
Ayame Crocodile
With the sudden rise of a purely numbers party, ‘Freemasons’, and the declaration of intentions from those within the ‘New Era leadership’ which not only confirmed the generally accepted opinion of them being no less than a New Era puppet party but also the notion of PTO’ing a second puppet party by BigAnt followed with threats of inviting foreign PTO agents into the eUK should they fail to wrestle control of the country. It seems as though I have no choice but to point out exactly what is at stake here.
Maybe just maybe we can wake up some of these newer players, Perhaps we can shake the old guard into life or hell even make those pulling the strings at New Era realise what they are doing is far more destructive towards our community than anything they have ever railed against.
For a little more current info on this and responses from other parties and players these two articles are a great start: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/threat-averted-country-saved--2291807/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/why-new-era-i-thought-you-liked-us--2291819/1/20
However I don’t feel they go into enough depth about this issue and aren’t showing the full extent of the problem and areas this could affect.
If it wasn’t already clear the Freemasons are nothing more than a puppet for New Era, They have no policies beyond recruiting and having the ultimate goal of getting more congress seats for New Era. The huge issues with this I’ll address a bit later on.
The true irony that they are named the ‘Freemasons’, is best savoured once you realise how they are anything but Free.
Every decision made within the Freemasons, Every possible piece of legislation that a Freemason congress person is asked to vote or propose, Every single thing about the Freemasons is done solely for the benefit of New Era.
There’s two major problems with this for new players who are unwittingly recruited by the Freemasons.
The first is the fact that they will never be allowed their own opinion, so long as that opinion differs to the few controlling New Era then they will be shunned and kept from congress. The number one overriding concern for those in charge of the Freemasons is that their congress candidates list is filled with the most malleable and obedient servants.
Secondly New Era and BigAnt especially are renowned for ‘numbers before people’ type recruiting. They offer everything, give a sirens call for members in their mass messaging and even take to some rather cheap tactics to recruit offsite.
This draws in a lot of new players who haven’t had a chance to get to know the landscape, A helping hand offering supplies and informing you that by joining them you can help turn over a dastardly elite who are hurting everyone is quite enticing for the unknowing. Problem is it’s all a charade.
And the saddest part about it is that new players then go on to die in New Era/Freemasons without ever getting the chance to experience the community or a party that wants to help them progress rather than seeing it the other way around.
Think for a second about how many New Era members you can name who have risen up out of NE after being helped and given encouragement to get involved further...
Now numbers are important, we know this, But they aren’t the be all and end all. If all you have is a desire to find numbers and wrestle control, then you just don’t get this game.
As is said over and over and over the real joy of eRepublik is in the sense of community. Attack that community and you’re going to find yourselves ostracised.
I know this article is already getting a bit lengthy but this is the main point I wanted to get to and the one that so many seem to have overlooked.
Having admitted that the Freemasons were created and brought to the Top 5 for the sole purpose of getting more seats for New Era, and I would like to add not by any legitimate means but by blocking out other parties (some of which were friendly with New Era),.
It’s clear that NE have accepted they can’t garner popular support, They have conceded that to go the honest route of putting forward a candidate and set of policies that could win a CP election isn’t viable.
And herein lies the biggest issue which has been overlooked by almost everyone.
New Era/Freemasons are trying to circumvent democracy
If you don’t believe me look back at the last 4 or 5 CP elections, In every single one a New Era candidate came second. Now should New Era have had a majority in congress at any of those times, I think it’s fair to say they would’ve proposed an impeachment of the President.
Now if this wasn’t the idea for having more NE puppets within the top 5 then what is the desire for them all about?
Put simply New Era are attempting to PTO the eUK by way of blocking other parties from the Top 5 and to avoid the need to actually elect Presidents.
There will be no point to CP elections anymore, We will know all too well what the eventual outcome will be once the elite few of New Era pass their impeachments through congress days after we vote in a new president.
The Country President election is the only election we now have left in eRepublik where we vote for an individual not a party. It's the only truly democratic and popular election here. And to see that taken away by a small clique of overly invested power hungry players would be devastating.
If you want a CP, if you want to have some form of power. Then the answer isn't to threaten bringing foreign PTO'ers, It isn't to circumvent the popular vote, It's to spend less time recruiting and more time teaching new players and helping them grow into being a viable candidate.
ps. Wasn’t sure how to end this article, I figured I’d just make a sudden stop. I look forward to rebuttals though :3
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we need an article about the FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS STOLEN, do you know anything about IT?
Yes, I took it, now be quite and go back to fapping.
500 thousand pounds is nothing compared to having the very essence of the democratic process destroyed.
I would rather have the entire treasury stolen, all the Orgs taken by Croatians than have a party do what New Era has done and is trying to do.
I think we've already had about 5 Alphabethis......
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Agree with the article, they can't continue this way!
The very definition of a political party is a group wanting to take over the country?
They can't continue this way, as in blocking other parties from having a chance of getting Congress by New Era setting up 3 parties to get into the top 5.
Because each party is so unique.
The point isn't that a party wanting power is wrong, the point is the way that NE are going about it has a negative impact on the whole country and new players especially.
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww shiiit
true story man!
You didn't name him, but all it took was reading one article by Dapper, and one by Churchill, before I made the connection between 'em.
New Era did used to have enough support to win elections. When UKPP were around.
The Freemasons are actually stopping the monopoly of TUP who have decided every CP election in recent months. Even you who had such a great majority would not have won if TUP had backed someone else.
And lets look back a few months. It was actually UKPP who were PTO'ed. Many of them were from UKRP/ TUP.
I would say New Era are actually going about it in a more respectable way, creating a new party rather than trying to PTO say UKRP...or PCP.
Winston is a bought account just as much as Butjam, doesn't make either a multi
I was messaged last night about PTOing Freemasons by Allex Loyd. No member from Freemasons has ever messaged me about PTOing another party.
Jamie, There is a huge difference between winning an election and making an election entirely worthless.
If NE want to elect a CP then I stand by what I said, Help someone become a viable candidate and recruit to New Era. There is no need to start tearing about what little democracy we have here and to punish those smaller parties who are working hard.
As for the Multi account, I beg to differ. There is a difference between bought and swapped and bought and multing, And I stand by my accusation.
As for PTO'ing Freemasons, Is it even possible to PTO a puppet? What would the members of Freemasons have lost? They don't have policies or a choice as to what their party does.
If anything they'd be better off in New Era.
*tearing apart
VIABLE CANDIDATE != TUP CANDIDATE, btw, where's the stolen money?
Please do not forget that New Era supported you when you were president, with a great number of votes, if this is a way to say thank you, than I am sorry we agreed with you. And to be honest, the best CP, in my opinion was Woldy. Which I would support him even in front of a New Era candidate.
It's hard to find the truth, but you can get it if you search for it.
Monopoly.... because they have the most votes, legitimately. I'm not in TUP, I don't like TUP, they bore me and they've had plenty of crap people contribute. But to say they're a monopoly because they have the most support, even though you don't agree with them is ridiculous.
What they're doing isn't only illegitimate and unfair, but also full on idiotic. Having more parties in the top 5 will just spread their voter base thinner. it won't win them more supporters to policies which clearly aren't attracting voters. It will simply gain more votes for TUP/UKRP who are still left in the top 5.
Play minecraft!
HERE HERE!!! I have been accused of being a multi by New Era so you know my opinions...BUT...there is a bloody lack of consistancy with the majority who use the forums. Butjam used TWO accounts at the same time and never once thought to ticket the admins to close the account? He left that account open and it could have been opened for further use such as elections...Goku, Big Ant or anyone else had done that then the condemnation would have been deafening. And rightly so.
I will add that AC i love you...but there is no proof Winston is Don or it hasn't been provided yet. Goku admitted his multi'ing and fair play to him. Butjam didnt and very few said a word about it...and he still gets defended because he is a forum moderator. Butjams crime is worse because he now sits on an account that looks very experienced to a new player if he ran for office....stats that could swing a neutral vote when they aren't even accomplishments he achieved.
Condemn one, condemn them all
you obv have not talked to Keers recently about Butjam...he was v upset with Butjam.
Keers and Woldy didn't brush it aside when butjam was caught red handed to be fair...a very, very small minority of people who would have shouted from the rafters if it had of been others caught forsuch blatant cheating
Hugh, I've been pretty open about the entire situation, but only ever off site, for obvious reasons. I got a ban and money wiped out to the point where I was 50 grand minus. And I am very experienced, ta'. I do wish you'd stop pretending that your personal animosities towards me aren't making your judgement any clearer. Put what happened in RL behind, because (and I can't believe you're making me say this) Goku was right when he said you were obsessive about shit.
I mean, I don't even come into this, and you come in with digs, what does it gain you? You think I've hurt your pride 'cause of what I did? Why not just be blunt and honest like you were in private.
I've seen the other side to you Hugh, and it ain't pretty.
Oh dear, if you scroll up Princess you will see your name was mentioned by Jamie and then it got discussed by AC...no need to though because then you couldnt play victim. So you can agree if you scroll up that you were mentioned and your multi accounting, yes?
Now you cheated. Fact. You had two accounts on the go at a time and you know that gold buyers get away with murder by the admins. You never ticketed the admins because you either wanted the account open or you forgot...like you forgot to mention it publicly? Privatly with one or tewo close friends is not a sign of being open and honest aboutit is it? As for experienced...Government wise yes...as experienced as your profile achievments? lmao...no chance but still cheats will always defend their cheating
And the forum readers have seen your rants on a few occasions and your apologies for them, i have been told what you are like in RL so I pride myself on being someone you arent and not the nasty individual you can be or a cheat in a role playing game.
Respect Hugh!
Argh...
Ill say this only once. I was going through a very rough patch in RL, and as a result ended up making a few pretty big mistakes. That's how I see them. Mistakes. Nothing more. People are allowed to make mistakes. Wish I hadn't, but I did. So, id actually really appreciate it if all this RL stuff was dropped ta!
Respect Hugh!
As for it being personal, don't flatter yourself. He'd be doing the same thing if it was Goku/BA/whoever...
nah, TUP hasn't decided the last few CP's, its been the hard work put in by the candidates. Without backing from other parties the candidates would not have been elected...
heads up, none of those that 'PTO' UKPP were from UKRP and TUP. get your facts right
I was just wondering that, it didn't even seem like a PTO at the time
Tired of being a puppet in the Freemasons? Join the UKPP today! 😛
join WRP ,instead
Recruiting at it's finest
Join decent parties, why don't you join WRP? It's higher in the scale of respectability than UKPP, for example.
Alpha recruiting for a party he's helped to screw over.
Good try.
what's Alpha ever done to WRP?
Couldn't be that he has been recruiting for Freemasons and giving media presence to them along with food give aways in an aim to knock WRP/PCP/UKPP out of the Top 5 per chance?
if PCP is not top 5, it is not my fault.
No it's not your fault that PCP aren't, But you helped knock UKPP out for certain and with that the 4 parties who have shared spots (UKPP, ESO, PCP and WRP) are now looking at having no further involvement, All so you could control congress and dictate the eUK.
You helped do that. And you can't deny it.
I can't deny I want a cristal clear politics where some steal thousands and tell you to play minecraft or comment in a forgotten forum, where Foreign affair is dictated by ONE GUY and where too many COWS are sacred.
What are you on about?
We've had a huge variety of CPs over the last 6 months. Our Foreign Affairs have been run by several different players, Congress themselves still vote on our MPPs.
What you are taking part in is far far worse. You claim you're against a 'Monopoly' against being 'dictated to by one guy' and yet here you are helping just a few people do exactly that.
Seems you are against an imaginary dictatorship in order to set up your own.
Rather hypocritical no?
whats Alpha ever done for WRP?
Votatoe'd
I sense a lot of bawww in this article.
Bawww?
There's little baw involved. Just me pointing out what's been missed.
That this is a clear grab at dictatorial powers via blocking other parties from congress.
If I was going to Baw I would've done so when PCP got overtaken a few days back.
this is baw Acroc - plain and simple - and you used to be above stuff like this.
Why do you avoid addressing the points?
Are you admitting by default that this is exactly what you are trying to do?
Has the quest for some false sense of power become so consuming that now you're willing to ignore the exact same things within your party that you have accused and hated others for?