Time to Own Up
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by Max Wallingbottom III
Being a decently liked elitist has certain advantages. When there are threats to SEES, people within the game usually alert me. This little nugget came from an anonymous souce. The exchange below is an excerpt from a secret USWP leadership channel. I realize that posting conversations from IRC is against the rules and cannot be fully authenticated, but I believe the truth should be out there. Take it as you will. It’s surprising, to say the least.
The Truth! It’s. Too. Much!
While SEES is no stranger to utilizing game mechanics to have fun with people, we also own up to what we do. We do not outright lie. The USWP claims that it does not support the PTO of the party. They have even forced ligtreb to apologize for calling out the veiled PTO attempt. The short excerpt above shows that the USWP had planned the PTO, contrary to what they have publicly stated. I even asked USWP leadership about the threat to confirm, yet they continue to deny.
My message to USWP leadership will be short and simple:
Own up to playing the bad guy. It’s actually pretty fun sometimes. Just do not lie to the Emerikan public in an attempt to save face. No one respects that.
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/me is hurt
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I guess there's only one thing to do
Interesting
Oh look, the USWP being useless butts.
Heh
Well, ain't that a stinker.
Just own up to it USWP.
inb4menstrualrage
Oh my.
Did someone cast a gauntlet?
Seems to me we got ourselves a lot of hypocrites and liars up in the USWP.
own up to it uswp.
The funny thing about this is that you are really just depriving america of a tool and will end up using sees personnel to run as blockers which is in all reality the only thing the sees "party" is used for beyond the few up and comers we bring into congress..
S.E.E.S. is love
"inb4menstrualrage"
lolololololololololololololololololololol
You forget I have access to USWP channels, I've never seen them back Cromstar's PTO of SEES.
Is this what this country is coming to? Blaming a party for the acts of an individual?
Also I think you missed the point of my article. I call out the USWP as well as Cromstar.
cool story bro, but you missed something while forging the IRC quotes. THE TIMES!
if it were real, it would look more like this...
[19:51] I'm getting ready to announce my candidacy for SEES. Is the USWP still going to help out with votes?
[19:51] idk, no one is really here atm. Hal isn't here and Lax is afk atm
[19:52] I don't think the plan has changed though
[19:52] kk, I'll be in place soon
[19:52] I'll let you know if the plan changes
I believe you Ligtreb. However, Haliman has personally expressed his concern about these three. There may be other USWP leadership rooms you don't know about...just sayin'
Also, I don't use timestamps. Too much clutter.
good article
That's a Captain, not a Major.
Dat sentence structure.
With the ability to fake logs of any nature, whats to say your telling the truth?
As I state😛 Take what you will from it
This would be great if those logs were real.
Disgusting liars.
fake logs are fake.
Unconfirmed messages from an anonymous source. Thats hard proof right there.
I, like Ligtreb, have access to all the Eb rooms and hadn't seen anyone talk about doing this pto.
That said, I'll freely admit I wasn't on last night past 18:00 erep time.
I'd like to think that this has simply gone too far on so many levels and hope that it ends soon.
Partys are looking great these days...really coming together for the good of the nation too. No bickering, bitching, name calling, blame placing or egotrips anywhere, real mature stuff from all sides, I like what I see.
I agree, Mizu, USWP are indeed despicable.
This would be great if those logs were real. x2
The USWP has always been a bunch of lying thieving cowards, why is this a shock to anyone?
This would be great if those logs were real. x3
MIZU BORING.
I'll tell you what I'm not seeing and that's not a whole lot of USWP'ers coming out to say 'We don't support this and ask our members not to participate.' in public.
We're being privately assured that USWP isn't sending votes, but why aren't I seeing anything from the USWP seeking to direct members away from this? Seems at least complicit.
I haven't been in the USWP private room in a week or so, since I left the party. Why? Because the Lib PP, Iasov hung out in there 24/7, and I have better things to do than waste my time. No offense, but if you think the USWP is an organized party capable of doing much, you're greatly mistaken. It's a sea of 2-clickers, and 2-clickers don't have the interest to switch parties and vote, or move regions and vote. Voter/member apathy is a problem that all parties (except maybe the Feds) have always had to deal with and the USWP is no exception. My last point to emphasize the problem would be this - SEES is a party of 150 members and yet can't produce even 50 members to vote for the "legitimate" PP candidate? While PTOs shouldn't be encouraged, the most harmful thing to the future of the eUS is apathy.
S.E.E.S. has a legitimate voter turnout percentage equal to that of all other top 5 parties at the moment, and has over 50% turnout far more than any other top 5 is showing right now.
Again, no offense meant, but the only way to say that SEES has a 50% turnout currently, is if you are counting all of Cromstar's votes as legitimate. As I look around at all the parties today, it's a sad indication of the lack of enthusiasm in the eUS. Either most parties are full of dying people, multis, or people that just don't care.
ok, kids, recess is over, can we please get back to beating up servs? If we are going to be bullies, let's go bully the other bullies as a team!
It was such a mistake letting you win in Congress.
>.>
I was here. And now I feel all dirty inside.
Take it back! Take it all back! Oh my eyes! My eyes!
@jasper, the 50% was counting cromstars, not as legitimate but to show that there is at least activity, the comment that legitimate was equivelant to the other parties is the accurate number which is sadly a low 30% atm. Yes sees isn't turning out in droves, but we percentage wise no worse off than the larger zombie parties and at least with the pto have some kind of interesting activity.
The really sad part is that these idiotic posts really are just an attempt by me to avoid studying for finals.
Some votes for Greek are ATO votes too. Just sayin'.
If you're concerned about SEES, Jasper, feel free to join us and help us out.
deja vu