The problem with USWP

Day 1,302, 16:45 • Published in USA USA • by Princefigs

She loves USWP...just doesnt love the situation


Greetings and Salutations America! This is Americas favorite rebel welcoming you to another edition of

The Princefigs Report

First off, lets address the elephant in the room....

" WTF Figgy? I thought you quit!?! "

Ladies and Gents, it is true that 2 editions back I announced my retirement and at the time, I really meant it. I knew that I had some unsettled business and still wanted to do somethings in this game, but, my aggravation had mounted to the point that I didnt want to be apart of this game anymore. With the changes admin keep making (most being terrible), the continued decline of the country, and most of all...the boredom generated by fighting the same fights, arguing the same arguments, doing the same exact stuff day in and day out....I was really fed up.

Shortly after I started my account way back when, I had an idea. I wanted to do something and that idea stuck with me for a long time. I never acted on it for various reasons. I decided to come back to realize that idea.

So in short, your favorite rebel and free thinker is back, America

Now that is addressed, I want to talk about a serious issue that has been bugging me.

The USWP

I have been a party loyalist for as long as I can remember. I have been an Executive Board member for months on end, held senior party jobs, and know the insides and out of just about everything that goes on with the party. Even now, that I am aggraviated with the party on a few levels, there still is no other party I would , or will, ever be apart of.

That being said, with the recent turn of events I believe that things need to be said and more importantly addressed. Pfeiffer is one of the major problems that exists in the party today.

I want to show everyone I few things today and allow you to see why Pfeiffer is a problem and needs to go.

First....two screenshots of Pfeiffer admitting that he uses multis :

Pfeiffer admitting he has a proxyswitcher that he uses

Pfeiffer admitting that he has and uses up to 50 multis.

Here is the problem I have with that. Ever wonder why Pfeiffer keeps getting the USWP endorsement for POTUS? Think that it might have anything to do with the fact that he has 50 multis?

Yeah, Im not the only one either. Here is a Mibpaste.bin of a conversation in #uswpchat today.

http://mibpaste.com/zkGHee

CivilAnarchy is saying out loud what many people think and wonder. if you dont care to read the whole thing, let me point out some specific parts :

16:21 Stanley_Ibcus pfeiffer is not using multi's and therefore he is supported

Stanley is trying to present the argument that Pfeiffer doesnt use multis....even after being presented with screenshots and links to Pfeiffer admitting he does. Pretty poor position for SI to take...read on:

16:23 Stanley_Ibcus did u consider the source? did you wonder why there is only a shot of that and no context?

Fair question it would seem....except for...

16:24 CivilAnarchy Well
16:24 CivilAnarchy The source to me seemed to be Pfeiffer
16:24 CivilAnarchy On the USWPforums
16:24 CivilAnarchy As for context
16:25 CivilAnarchy Are you contending that the context invalidates the evidence?
16:25 CivilAnarchy If so, present your own.
16:25 |NX| Stanley_Ibcus: That screenshot included factual information known only to myself and Pfeiffer
16:25 CivilAnarchy Otherwise, the offer seems to stand alone very well.

Stanley makes a logical weak point here. He is saying that the context was wrong....yet refuses to offer any evidence to prove his point. He is using a logical fallacy here referred to as False attribution or perhaps an Appeal to Authority. He is suggesting that his word alone, without evidence, should prove his point, it does not.

CA asked several times for Stanley to present his evidence to validate his point...

16:25 CivilAnarchy But if you have some sort of contextual evidence that invalidates my contention
16:26 CivilAnarchy Kindly present it Stanley_Ibcus

Stanleys reply:

16:26 Stanley_Ibcus i dont need evidence.

Really?

16:26 Stanley_Ibcus if u dont like pfeiffer fine.
6:27 Stanley_Ibcus keep on trolling
16:27 CivilAnarchy You admit Pfeiffer uses multiple accounts?
16:27 Stanley_Ibcus no

Stanley now leaps from one logical fallacy to another : Appeal to Ridicule , Red Herring, etc etc He is trying to change the conversation from us objecting to Pfeiffer using multis and cheating to us objecting to him solely because we dont like him. That is a false premise.

I will be the first to admit...I DO NOT LIKE PFEIFFER. At all. But, my OBJECTION to him with respect to the USWP is that he is a cheater, multi user that has no loyalty to the party. He uses his multis to win primaries to help him become POTUS.

Continuing....

16:28 CivilAnarchy Stop changing the subject then
16:28 CivilAnarchy I have made the contention that Pfeiffer uses multis
16:28 CivilAnarchy I'm using the screenshot of him admitting it as evidence
16:28 CivilAnarchy Do you have evidence to the contrary?

The brilliant reply from Stanley

16:29 Stanley_Ibcus i dont need evidence. you admit to hating him, so you are just hating.

Again, he is deflecting. He is trying to draw a false conclusion here that if you hate / dislike Pfeiffer then any claim you bring up is false " because you are just hating. "

Now, lets break away from the illogical and enter the realm of the sensible and reasonable. Just because you dislike someone does not mean that anything you say about them is incorrect or wrong. We have evidence a plenty that Pfeiffer is a cheat and uses multis. If someone that loved him showed the same exact evidence, who it make the facts....more fact..ful?

CA kills Stanley with logic here :

16:29 CivilAnarchy So Stanley_Ibcus
16:29 CivilAnarchy Your argument is
16:29 CivilAnarchy The screenshot proving Pfeiffer multis by his own admittance
16:29 CivilAnarchy Is invalidated by the fact that I hate Pfeiffer
16:29 CivilAnarchy Even when I'm not the one who took said screenshot?

I add to the conversation this :

16:30 Princefigs Facts override emotion
16:31 Princefigs Your "hatred " is irrelevant in the face of fact
16:32 Princefigs FACT : Pfeiffer has many multis. FACT : He has admitted to them and evidence of this exists He uses these multis to get himself appointed the primary winner each month
16:32 Princefigs as such
16:32 Princefigs it doesnt matter how CA feels about him

Realizing that he has lost this battle, Stanely tries another tactic....

16:32 Stanley_Ibcus Lax reviews all primary results via the database, making sure there are no multi votes and that the elections are fair
16:32 Princefigs That process is FAR from fool proof
16:32 Stanley_Ibcus you are dead wrong Princefigs
16:32 Princefigs really?



|NX| adds :

16:32 |NX| Stanley_Ibcus: when you have proxyswitcher
16:32 |NX| which Pfeiff does
16:33 |NX| it would be impossible for Lax to detect your use of multis

Stanleys grand answer to this....

16:34 Stanley_Ibcus i do not.(need to provide evidence) i explained pfeiffers role in the uswp. you guys are trolling, w/e

Scrabman makes the obvious point that Stanley misses:

16:35 Scrabman >Use logic and facts
16:36 Scrabman >Trolling
16:36 Scrabman >Yep.png
16:36 Princefigs considering that I KNOW the whole process(of verifying votes in primaries) and have been apart of it for a long time, I know the reality

Then in a fit of rage, Stanley does this :

16:36 Stanley_Ibcus .access del Princefigs
16:36 Stanley_Ibcus .k Princefigs

he failed though...my access is higher...LOL

Then Stanley goes further off the deep end :

16:38 Stanley_Ibcus CivilAnarchy, you came here to bash pfeiffer. you are not uswp. i dont answer to you.
16:38 CivilAnarchy Came here?
16:38 CivilAnarchy I'm always in this channel.
16:39 CivilAnarchy As for bashing Pfeiffer, I have been entirely reasonable this entire time.
16:39 CivilAnarchy Think about it
16:39 CivilAnarchy If I wanted to bash Pfeiffer
16:39 CivilAnarchy Would I openly state a slight bias due to disliking Pfeiffer?
16:40 CivilAnarchy And if you're going to be so damned arrogant as to suggest that you don't have to adhere to logic simply because 'I'm not USWP' then you truly are a child.

There is more....but I will spare you the rest...

So are Princefigs and CA the only ones that think that? Nope.

16:23 iasov^afk knew (that Pfeffifer uses multis)long before there was a screenshot
16:24 iasov it is because pfeiffer helped me take over the ADTP (with his multis)
16:24 iasov and reform the libs

The nuts of the issue is this....primaries are used to help against PTOs. We have them to get one official candidate. However, what we are not seeing is that Pfeiffer has already PTOed the party by high jacking the primaries.

He is using his multis to vote for him and then the power of that position to try and force members to vote for him. I was recently kicked out of our Executive Board IRC channel for voicing opposition to Pfeiffer. Does that make any sense? I am standing on the side of the party....why would someone that is obviously loyal to the party be kicked out for voicing concern about a person that has PTOed the party?

THE SOLUTION

We must get a strong leader in the PP position in July. We cant have people like Stanley Icubus in that position who clearly lack the maturity and logical abilities to discern a threat when it is blatantly obvious. Furthermore, we must remove Pfeiffer from primary consideration and consider any run by him a PTO threat. Why? for all the reasons given. Anyone that has 50 multis must never be allowed to enter a primary in our party.

USWP, I love you, but we have lost our party to Pfeiffer as of now. We need to take it back. We must remove Pfeiffer from primary consideration soon.

Other parties, why should you care? Because we need strong parties in the top 5 that are not under the control of one person with ambition. We need to work together as a top 5 to ensure eUSA safety and security.

Thanks for reading, America
Keep it real.