The Citizenship Solution
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by Equality 7-2521
My comment from the Insider article here:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/citizenship-brainstorming-session-804659/1/20
Please comment here in this article, in order to split off any debate specific to this idea.
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As you know, if you simply say that someone has to be in-country 10 days prior to an election, they will simply move there sooner. It does not prevent them from moving, it simply pushes back the date further to be effective. This might deter some, but not those most serious about such PTOs.
As an alternative solution, you can only allow a citizen to vote, in any election, in the country they were in during the previous election. In this way, you can never vote in one country one month and another the following month. Does this mean you can't move around between elections? No. You simply choose a voting location and stick with it. You could vote in America each month but travel during the month as a Marine, only coming back to vote. What if you want to change your voting location? No problem, but there is a one election "probation" in which you're unable to vote in your new location. Say you live in America now, for instance, and you want to be able to vote in Canada. That is fine and you can do that. But, you will have to move to Canada and be present during an election while not being able to vote. When the next month's election rolls around, you are now eligible to vote in Canada. Choose wisely, however, since you are now only eligible to vote in Canada and nowhere else, including America where you could vote previously.
This would hold for all elections, and a citizen *could* have 3 different voting locations, one for each of the 3 election types. Each type would need to know the location of the citizen during the previous election of that type.
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Pertamaxxx, good idea, and I don't think admin will listen.
Let's hope though.
Good idea! I like the idea of having to be present for an election before you can vote. Would voters still have to reach lvl 6 first?
Interesting.
I like the idea, but as you said it only makes the PTO process longer, not impossible. Though two months to even start a PTO would discourage a lot I would think.
So, basically, this just ratchets up the waiting period from 10 days to 30 days. I think it will deter the vast majority of PTOs, but they will still be possible. We're never going to be able to completely eliminate them. I like this 😃
Lawliet, there is no reason on this earth why this would change when someone is able to vote.
I like this idea much more than the 10-day one.
Interesting, Sounds a lot like mathematical induction, except you have left a big question mark over the first case. How can you ever vote if you have never voted? how does a country get started that never existed when the players whose supposed home country is created? I suggest Parties hold registration and can screen who joins their party. The person or group that bought the party get to decide. It is a private group and they are subject to PTO too. If someone doesn't like it they can buy their own party. perhaps an exclusive friendship request. I know we are used to broad tent parties IRL. Buying a party ups the cost for people who are fly by night voters. Party President vote is where the PTO's that I have seen start anyway.
Voted. I also am skeptical about the likelihood of this plan's implementation by the admins, but you diagnosed the problem and offered a good solution.
Love the idea, Eq.
VOTE EM UP PPLZ
@ TakUnCat: "...except you have left a big question mark over the first case. How can you ever vote if you have never voted? how does a country get started that never existed when the players whose supposed home country is created?..."
My suggestion would be that countries exist for a period of time prior to any elections. This allows for new citizens to be born there and businesses to be established prior to government intervention. So, if now a country is started on the 10th, they hold PP elections 5 days later, Congress in 15 and Country President almost a full month later. In these cases, the Treasury will probably be looted before a President ever hold office.
My alternative solution still requires you to be in country during the election day previous. So, if a country starts on the 10th, you'd need to be in that country on the 15th. There would be no election in that country that day, though. You are giving up your right to vote that day in order to vote during that country's first elections (for PP) a month later. If you also want the opportunity to vote for Congress and CP in that country, you have to be in-country on election day a month prior even though there is no election held. Will the goons give up 2 months at a time to PTO a new country?? I have no idea.
The answer to the first question is you don't have to VOTE in that country during the previous election, you just have to be present a month prior. New citizens don't vote in their first election, they wait until 1 month afterwards, assuming they've reached that level by then.
requiring people to loose out on exp to change, there have been worse ideas. Generally I am fairly sure it is best to grow up in an established country anyway so that is not a terrible idea it mainly hurts new players who should not be there. PTO is a sacrifice. Perhaps giving a country their gold in installments will make the prize less tempting. Party owners could restrict membership to those who agree with them. Those restrictions could make the game more doable. I would like to see new countries be flocked to by business men not fleeced by politicians.