SNP, gold and lies

Day 1,223, 09:30 • Published in Switzerland Switzerland • by F4uc0n

Hello everyone,


In his article, Dr.Pain asked me a few questions.
I’m really sorry he had to write an article to do that because I always answer to my PMs but still… now that it’s public, let’s keep the answer public as well.
I’ll quote some parts and answer to them afterwards.

You can click on the pictures to have a bigger version of them.




Give Milan his money back already! It is neither your money, nor the money of the Swiss people. Hell, it is not even the money of Milan. He owes this hughes summ to another player and by remaining in your Kohl/Merkel position of sitting it out you are not only hurting him, but also your own reputation. It is not even like only the SNP and me see it this way, but even your own party coleagues share the exact same opinion (not all, but a critical mass😁).


This money is the money of swiss people. By giving it to the country’s account, he accepted that he wouldn’t have any grasp on it anymore. As we say in french : « giving is giving, taking back is stealing ».
But we may ask : « Why did he do such a thing ? »
Here is the answer : the SNP (milanlazetic never wanted to tell me exactly who) asked him to lend some gold to make some money and that’s what he did.
He borrowed 250 gold to one of his friends, send it to the country’s account and tried to print 50'000 CHF. Fortunatelly, the congress rejected that because it knew our MM was already really weak (100 CHF / gold and now it’s even worse 140 CHF / gold) so printing 50'000 CHF would have only harmed the swiss economy and all swiss players because their salary would have been worth less.
He and the SNP, never dared to explain anything about these laws.
Afterwards, he told me that their goal was to print money, sell it on our already destroyed MM to have 500 gold and then give 250 gold back to the first guy and keep the others 250 gold.

Walther Rathenau (the SNP party president) wanted to print this money :



Clifford Burns wanted to print this money :



Sminter wanted to print this money :



BlackHawk999 wanted to print this money :



In general, the SNP wanted to print this money but all other congress members didn’t accept that.


They wanted to get richer by destroying the swiss economy. The only problem is that this wouldn’t have been possible and here is why : there was about 30 gold on sell on our MM so we were far from the 500 gold they needed. And if they wanted to sell the 50'000 CHF, this would have take them ages and at the actual rate, they would have get... 60 gold. Milanlazetic and the SNP are lying here but what do they want to hide ? Probably something much darker than « only » destroying our MM.

That’s why we decided to send this money in a safe place : the Swiss NationaI Bank and it was accepted (see here).
Milanlazetic then complained about us « stealing » « his » money and threatened Rican and me because we started the law.

I asked then about the point of view of all SRC members about this whole story. Some of them wanted to give all of the money back, some of them wanted to give only part of it and many people wanted to keep all the money.
For the moment, we didn’t find any agreement and the money remained on the SNB and maybe this article could help us to understand more about all that if the SNP and its leaders dare to give their point of view.
I’m in the position of the bad guy but I have to live with that. By accepting to manage the SNB, I also accepted its responsabilities. I’m trying to find an answer to all this but as long as I don’t, I won’t give the money back. It’s also my responsability toward swiss people.




The scond point i want to adress, is the fusion of the government money. Although i am not happy about the fact that the talks about this happened behind my back and i only got contacted after the deal did not went as expected. From what i information i gathered there have been talks between you and Walther about fusing the government accounts in the country account. The SNP said they did send all money they had but you did not. Instead you started a law to funnel the fresh money out of the country account.


About the « agreement » we are supposed to have with Walther about the fusion of the two bank, the only message he sent me was where he offered my to be MoF to have a control of the money and told me that Dr.Pain will probably agree about that.
I asked him if being MoF means I would have the SCB password and he never answered to my question… That’s not what I call an agreement.
In the forum, he also created this thread but I never accepted anything he said.
An agreement is not one guy saying: « We’ll do this way » and the other one having to follow. An agreement means an offer and acceptance.




To be honest i am highly sceptical of your version that the admins donated the money into the country account. From the talks i had with them, they know about our situation with two "official" national banks and two divided sets of government that use the funds from "their" bank. Btw that is the reason why Milan didn't get the money from the admins, but has to wait for you to hand it out. It is quite simple. None of the two groups are stealing the money. It is not like they grab it and run away. Although each sides likes to blame the other side as a group of thieves and PTOers, the truth is that both sides are here to stay and won't run away. It is a fucked up situation, but it is also a situation eSwitzerland arranged itself with along time ago. From time to time there are signs of cooperation and then there are times when you want to smash each others heads. I am used to this weekly change of temper, and I am sure so is the rest of eSwitzerland.
To stop my rant i'll make it short: please mail me your side of the story and i'll try to negotiate between both sides. After all that is what I am here fore (although i would prefer to lead).
And to be candi😛 the country account is the best place for the money. foreign powers dont get any money for conquering regions and we can finally put the masses of CHF to a good use by paying for MPP's. Can you imagine having a war every day? I can.


First we have to explain a few things :
Admins decided long ago to delete the organizations. Many people complained and the admins finally accepted to name official country organizations which won’t be deleted when this change will be effective. They also promised to protect them against stealers.

When the congress accepted to donate some money to the SCB (which was named an official organization by our previous president cesgon) this money is supposed to stay on its account and not to be sent somewhere else.
That’s why I sent a ticket to the admins because all money which was on this organization always disappeard.


Sceptics of the world, I’m glad to present you… A BLATANT PROOF:




And if you want to read the whole conversation, here it is :
(read from the bottom)





Now that this part is clear, I want to show you something :

First message :



Second message :



Third message :



Fourth message :



Did you compare these comments with my pfoof ? I still have many other examples but as they are PM, I prefer not to put them here. An article is so easily reported…


Is it clear enough or shall I continue ? WALTHER IS A LIAR.
He never transfered this money to the country’s account. The admins did. He’s now taking you for fools.

Do you still want to trust a liar ? Do you want a liar as MoF ? Can you trust someone like that to handle all of YOUR money ?
The SNB has always been clear with the use of its money. We have a constant report everyone can see here : https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=txJ0iv3hNrVuSusuCRWGGgw&hl=en#gid=0
Do the SCB have the same ? NO. They’re hiding the use of your money, they’re stealing your money and they are lying to you all the time.


I’m deeply sorry but in all humility, I have to I was right and YOU were wrong.




Let’s continue about the SNP behaviour.

Walther sent a PM to konstal about the party presidency elections :


Hi konstal,

Vincent Rekdal and me agreed that our parties will respect each other. No party member of the other party will try to take over the other.

I can promise you the same. Will you also promise it?

Best regards and a nice evening,

Walther


That’s what the SRC did. But did the SNP do the same ? Of course not.
BlackHawk999 ran for the SRC presidency.

Again, the SNP isn’t respecting an agreement.




And now let’s have some more fun.
Do you remember the guys who wanted to print 50'000 CHF to destroy our economy ? Do you really remember them ?

He had Walther, our well known liar (I already showed you that twice).

We had Sminter our well known multi user :


We had BlackHawk999 our well known agreement breaker and multi user :


And finally Clifford.

Hey but you’re right. I didn’t say anything about Clifford yet. So here is the correction of this terrible mistake.


The previous president of the Swiss NEUTRALITY Party in his whole glory :



Do you remember the party programm ?



Now read Clifford’s comment again and start laughing (or crying it’s up to you).




But that’s not all. You all know we actually have a SNP member as president. I won’t say anything about his job here even if I think he’s doing pretty well compared to all other SNP president.

But here is what is fun / depressing / stupid / sad (cross the wrong answer) :



milanlazetic, our well known economy destroyer, SNP member and Clifford’s friend is trying to impeach a president of his OWN party.

WTF ?
Is Dr.Pain too independant for them ? They can’t bear a president working with any other party than their own ?




In conclusion, I ask every SNP member to leave this party which is full of liars, cheaters, stealers, agreement breakers, hypocrits and people who don’t even respect their own principles.
If you’re not one of them, you’d better leave


I thank you for your attention.