Situation betwean Bulgaria and Turkey in my eyes
Day 1,542, 10:28
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by SmoothZiga
Latley I saw many shouts and articles about ONE calling Bulgaria to join them or Bulgarian people being dissapointed with EDEN HQ actions and so on. So I decided to write an article that is ONLY my point of view so dont look at my 4 CP medals and think that I speak on behalf of Slovenian goverment or whatever = ) Oh yes, and I will write in english becouse I saw I got some international readers, woopeeee.
As I understand this situation it goes something like this. EDEN HQ who is the same for few months now and didnt made »democratic« elections in past few months meaning there are same old peaople rotating in EDEN HQ (I could be wrong tho) wants Turkey to fully join EDEN. But Bulgaria who as I uderstand are not very friendly towards Turkey in game and in real life (I will get to that later) vetoed Turkey from joining EDEN with around 62% Bulgarians supporting this action. This action triggered chain reaction. Ukrain and Russia in which Bulgaria have their colonies wants those regions back. In response Bulgaria said they want Iranian regions. So EDEN HQ said, fine, sign MPP with Turkey and we will deal with this.
Now if you want to understand the relationship with Bulgaria and Turkey you gotta look in the past, mostly in real life. Many people say that its stupid to bring real life in to this game but sadly, this game is all about real life. And when this summer I was traveling thrue balcan and among other countrys I visited Bulgaria and Turkey a learned a lot about thos two nations. When I left Sofia and head towards Istanbul I was traveling with two bulgarians and we talked a lot. And one thing I learned is that bulgarians are very nationalists and they blame Turkey for everything. If highway is build badly, blame turkish company if the economy is bad, blame turkey and so on. Another interesting thig I heard is that when in some muslim village in bulgaria there was calling for prayer from minaret it follows by some bulgarian partisan music that was sing by soldiers when they were under ottoman accupation and were fighting for liberation.
So, if you look at this situation closely those two countrys are kinda the same as Serbia and Croatia. Its almost imposible to work together. And I doubt Croatian players would be very happy if EDEN HQ would force them to accept Serbia in to the alliance.
There is also Greece who doesent have good history with Turkey neather in game or real life but they signed MPP with them only so they would save themself from Macedonian occupation and also Romania who was occupyed by Turkey for few months.
Now here is also ONE who saw the opportunity to get Bulgaria on their side. But they choose wrong tactic. Instead of mass spamming and shouting with calling Bulgaria to join ONE they should go to quiet diplomacy. Becouse spamming and shouting sounds like bashing and annoying rather than calling them to join »the dark side«. Here is also Macedonia who I belive are not realy in good relationship with Bulgaria but are also calling them to join ONE only to have revenge on Turkey for backstabbing them after many many months of being »best friends for ever«.
So bottom line here is that EDEN HQ wants Turkey only becouse of their damage and are willing to risk their relationship with Bulgaria who is in my eyes one of the most organised military machine in the game and on the other side there is ONE who wants Bulgaria also only for the damage and to have revenge on Turkey.
There are three ways how this can end.
One, EDEN HQ provoke Bulgaria to leave EDEN and join ONE which is highly unlikely becouse Bulgaria know ONE is dead now and probably near breakup.
Two, EDEN HQ convince Bulgaria to swallow their pride and let Turkey in to alliance just so they can continue dominate over ONE countrys and that is very posible outcome.
Three, Bulgaria convince EDEN HQ not to accept Turkey and make Turkey only proEDEN contry becouse they cant go back to ONE and are kinda stuck with TEDEN even if it means they wont be member of the alliance and that is most likley outcome of this.
Kind Regards
SmoothZiga
As I understand this situation it goes something like this. EDEN HQ who is the same for few months now and didnt made »democratic« elections in past few months meaning there are same old peaople rotating in EDEN HQ (I could be wrong tho) wants Turkey to fully join EDEN. But Bulgaria who as I uderstand are not very friendly towards Turkey in game and in real life (I will get to that later) vetoed Turkey from joining EDEN with around 62% Bulgarians supporting this action. This action triggered chain reaction. Ukrain and Russia in which Bulgaria have their colonies wants those regions back. In response Bulgaria said they want Iranian regions. So EDEN HQ said, fine, sign MPP with Turkey and we will deal with this.
Now if you want to understand the relationship with Bulgaria and Turkey you gotta look in the past, mostly in real life. Many people say that its stupid to bring real life in to this game but sadly, this game is all about real life. And when this summer I was traveling thrue balcan and among other countrys I visited Bulgaria and Turkey a learned a lot about thos two nations. When I left Sofia and head towards Istanbul I was traveling with two bulgarians and we talked a lot. And one thing I learned is that bulgarians are very nationalists and they blame Turkey for everything. If highway is build badly, blame turkish company if the economy is bad, blame turkey and so on. Another interesting thig I heard is that when in some muslim village in bulgaria there was calling for prayer from minaret it follows by some bulgarian partisan music that was sing by soldiers when they were under ottoman accupation and were fighting for liberation.
So, if you look at this situation closely those two countrys are kinda the same as Serbia and Croatia. Its almost imposible to work together. And I doubt Croatian players would be very happy if EDEN HQ would force them to accept Serbia in to the alliance.
There is also Greece who doesent have good history with Turkey neather in game or real life but they signed MPP with them only so they would save themself from Macedonian occupation and also Romania who was occupyed by Turkey for few months.
Now here is also ONE who saw the opportunity to get Bulgaria on their side. But they choose wrong tactic. Instead of mass spamming and shouting with calling Bulgaria to join ONE they should go to quiet diplomacy. Becouse spamming and shouting sounds like bashing and annoying rather than calling them to join »the dark side«. Here is also Macedonia who I belive are not realy in good relationship with Bulgaria but are also calling them to join ONE only to have revenge on Turkey for backstabbing them after many many months of being »best friends for ever«.
So bottom line here is that EDEN HQ wants Turkey only becouse of their damage and are willing to risk their relationship with Bulgaria who is in my eyes one of the most organised military machine in the game and on the other side there is ONE who wants Bulgaria also only for the damage and to have revenge on Turkey.
There are three ways how this can end.
One, EDEN HQ provoke Bulgaria to leave EDEN and join ONE which is highly unlikely becouse Bulgaria know ONE is dead now and probably near breakup.
Two, EDEN HQ convince Bulgaria to swallow their pride and let Turkey in to alliance just so they can continue dominate over ONE countrys and that is very posible outcome.
Three, Bulgaria convince EDEN HQ not to accept Turkey and make Turkey only proEDEN contry becouse they cant go back to ONE and are kinda stuck with TEDEN even if it means they wont be member of the alliance and that is most likley outcome of this.
Kind Regards
SmoothZiga
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EDEN HQ had democratic elections and CP's from all countries elected them..that was yesterday, after that I didn't read rest of article..
EDEN HQ had democratic elections and CP's from all countries elected them.. it was yesterday..
Hail Bulgaria!
Hail Turkey!
Hail TEDEN!
If #2 happen, most of bulgarian's active citizens will leave it and join maybe poland or some Terra country ...
HAIL BULGARIA
o7
keep writing in english ;😉)
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"If #2 happen, most of bulgarian's active citizens will leave it and join ... some Terra country "
There is no Terra and EDEN, it is the same alliance. They have never fought each other, not even when the opposing alliance was weaker then them (this time is not the first time).
About the whole situation, it is rather simple: Bulgaria does not like Turkey, and Bulgarians have something called pride. Serbians have the same thing, so Turkey will never join one as long as Serbia is there. Basically, they now sit between two chairs.
On the other side, Bulgaria was taken into EDEN for it's damage. I am sure some real friendships did develop here in the mean time, but that is how it has started. They want Turkey for the same reasons.
Bulgaria is also in a hard situation: accept Turkey being showed down their throats (in form of EDEN or Terra membership), or try changing sides. ONE might be take them because of the same thirst for damage, even though I am sure a lot of old ONE players remember their betrayal a long time ago and want to have nothing to with them.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/ls-international-1-1963900/1/20 please read and vote thank you🙂
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/eden-d-1964527/1/20
EDEN won this game 😃DD
this is just a lame ONE propaganda
it was Turkey (not EDEN HQ, since EDEN can't give anyone's regions...) who asked for MPP in return for giving regions.
and stop mentioning stupid arguments like "Croatia wouldn't accept Serbia" since Bulgaria would be one of the first to VETO them 🙂 and actually, you'd all get surprised if Serbia was in Turkey's place.
also, Turkey got accepted as trial member (negotiations were done badly, but it's a fact that everyone including Bulgaria accepted that) but they got rejected when it was time to vote them as full member.
Bulgarian VETO didn't terminate Turkish trial membership (it requires separate voting) just blocked them from becoming full member.
EDEN was in situations more difficult than this one and survived them all and it will survive this one too.
Bulgaria is one of EDEN's strongest members and it was always respected.
Pathetic trolls and ONE propaganda won't change a thing...
good thinking dude
Yeah voted
Kia ora _/\_ @Bulgarians, Don't make any decisions while u are being enraged/emotional,calm down n rethink again before decide anything that will have huge impact for longterm
@ONE. Be cool and quiet please,time will tell later : D
Great article Ziga, voted hard.
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ONE is not dead, is just headless : D
WE NEED new people in HQ !!!
we need chess masters and people who can understand rules of this game. we have diapers baby's for way TOOOOOOOOOOO long in HQ!!!
problem is that big countries will not tolerate leadership from smaller country eaven if that leadership or leader of HQ would be best and bether option for all aliance.
Every one are looking for their own country but not for whole aliance, no1 is willing to make some secrifizes
Every country is EQUAL no matter what they are small or big,no matter what they are strong or weak,thats the deep understanding of consciousness that ONE must had.So legitimation of leader from weak country lying on his/her own ability n knowledge,not big/small the country's size. o/ Reformation of ONE
vote a sada na citanje xD
ante-os confirmed 2nd outcome xD
ONE does not need traitors on their side.
Bulgaria is in same place they where when they left Phoenix...
Personally I think that EDEN is little bit scared to miss opportunity to get strong member as Turkey is.
There was absolutely not a single problem when for example Israel was waiting for almost 1 year to officialy be accepted into alliance... Now there is a problem because in EDEN HQ they know that Turkey won't accept being trial member for long and they saw how it all ended when they were proONE.
nice article, vote