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***UPDATE - eSpain's Official Response to eCanada & eUSA making peace with eFrance (and it's not good).***
There is a vote in Congress to forge a peace with PEACE member state eFrance.
As many of you know, it was eFrance that held the "honour" of leading the spearhead into eCanada at the beginning of this Great Patriotic War (WWIII). It began on the day I was eBorn - Day 601.
Most of us know the history, and remember that fateful Battle of Nova Scotia where we threw everything including the kitchen sink at the eFrench onslaught - and they only smiled and rolled right over us.
The Maritimes. Quebec. The North. The West, and finally Ontario.
Those were dark days indeed. It brought us closer as a nation.
After the Fall of Ontario, eCanadians spread out into the New World in their own Diaspora.
Some went to the eUSA to continue the good fight there. Other went to eGreece, and set up shop to fight on from Allied soil. Others still went to eSpain - myself included to continue fighting the eFrench as they razed eSpain to the ground with as much aplomb as they did eCanada.
I watched two nations fall piece by piece.
Fast forward.
eCanada: liberated.
eSpain: liberated.
eUSA: liberated.
Peace with eUK via the NAP signed by then Prime Minister Jacobi with eUK Prime Minister GLaDOS followed...
It was the eUK that stabbed us in the back by allocating Scotland to the eHun to facilitate their attack and subsequent occupation of our homeland - of which countless gold was spent to liberate.
I don't really have to add anything to this caption.
Now it appears that eFrance will get off scot free as well.
Some will say,
"Yeah, but it was us who constantly provoked eFrance...many months ago"
Agreed. However we didn't raze their country to the ground, destroying ALL infrastructure.
How many eCanadian babies were left behind during the war - especially after the Citizenship Mod was introduced? I can only estimate. A month ago I was scrolling thru the citizenship applications of some who were left behind...and they died waiting for their citizenship. I granted citizenship posthumously to two of the ones whom I repatriated to Ontario for our last stand.
They died waiting to get their Citizenship. (which is another example of how we were failing our people).
I can only imagine how many others there were...
Now it appears that we will indeed have peace with eFrance, permitting their tanks to move to eSerbia or eHungary to continue fighting us (as the Brits did after the eCan/eUK NAP) and our Allies for the sovereignty of friendly nations.
Is a condition of this peace that eFrance withdraw from the Alliance known as PEACE: GC?
Not to this writer's knowledge. In fact it just allows eFrench tanks to move to aid their PEACE brothers in arms against us as they no longer have to defend their own front.
Some will remember that after we signed the NAP with eUK, that eFrance attacked our Bro - the eUSA with the help of eUK tanks. The eUSA remembers and they were not particularly enthusiastic about that...
This peace is akin to (for sake of analogy, we all know this did NOT occur) Churchill signing a NAP with Hitler so Germany can invade Russia with full force as they no longer have to defend their own borders from attack.
Our peace is Slovakia's continued occupation.
Our peace is PEACE GC's further consolidation of arms against us in Allied battles.
Yesterday, the Congress of eFrance accepted eFrench President Lyne Faynel's proposed peace with the eUSA.
Today, Lyne Faynel faces impeachment. It appears at this time that the impeachment will fail, as it stands at 11-22 against at time of publication.
This is perhaps in indication that a substantial degree of eFrench influentials are not entirely in favour of peace with North America.
I expect the impeachment vote to be a reversal of the peace with eUSA vote (which was 24-14 in favour).
So, my fellow eCanadians - what say you?
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Comments
peace with france is a good move. going after them for reparations would just reduce us to their level and we're better then that.
Hatred and vengeance will lead us nowhere. I strongly support peace with France.
This isn't RL. UNLESS they join EDEN, we have no reason to make peace with them.
The best thing that I see for a peace deal with France, is IF they surrender to us, and we can tax the shit out of them or threaten to wipe them out.
Yeah but hopefully this will make them feel secure enough to leave PEACE.
I for one voted yes and fully support this pointless front.
Well, you know what we Spanish think of this separate, unilateral, unconsulted, for your convenience, "peace treaty".
And you got it right; while you're appeasing them, they are still able to move tanks to, say Slovakia, f.i, and fight against EDEN. And they still have mpps with many PEACE countries. There's a word for what Canada (and USA) have just done to their allies.
No longer allies, of course. Cause, for sure, you will not go "scot free" after this. At least, don't count on us anymore
Let's see what the norwegians and others think about it.
Good luck with the Russians. your on your own now.
@Maegelodonus: You're totally right, I fully agree. Don't worry, I'll work hard to make sure Canada does not go through with this silly peace proposal.
Its simply not right to sign a peace treaty with france, when our EDEN allies are still on open fronts with them. Taxing them MAYBE would have worked if the sum was high enough, as it could be sent to EDEN to help fund tanks.
One idea is for Canada to sign a peace treaty with France, and ask for a large sum of gold in return (monthly payment), after that, the gold is send to Eden, and Canada moves its tanks in other nations and works to wipe out France.
I also favor peace with eFrance.
Why?
1- It's a good timing since they think about leaving PEACE like eItaly just did.
2- peace is an end in itself.
3- it will open new business oportunity (France has average to low import taxes)
4- let us not forget they attacked us thanks to a war already opened by ... us under the Bruck administration (if what I read is correct because that was before I was eborn)
Voted
If we lose face with Eden member countries then peace with France is not worth it.
BTW Britain and Hitler never had a NAP. Hitler sign a NAP with Stalin. Then started the Blitz Krieg through Poland and Western Europe
No peace with France unless:
1 they leave PEACE
2 they pay us reparations
3 their leader puts head between legs and kisses own arse
signed
a war baby
we had peace with North Korea after they invaded seoul in the 50's. So all i have to say is THE WAR IS OVER! *goes ballistic*
May I also add that I was born a few weeks after French Toast, the eDay that lived in eInfammy. This war was on since January, it is time for an end to this fuddle duddle war. For the past year after Brucks administration, congress and the administration of our country have been fighting hard for this long awaited peace. we tried 3 times, 3 times someone or somebody has F***d up and did something insulting causing peace negotiations to be held back. France was bullied into invading and we are talking smack about them? Peace with France is good, but Peace with silly demands from us for a change, unacceptable. So keep these dirty comments to yourselves dear citizens and watch how we can benefit from this peace.
Take care, Duke Leto
Signing a peace treaty with France when our EDEN allies are still at war with it is like Canada signing a peace treaty with Hitler in 1943 during WW2 when all other allies were still fighting.
Its stupid, and its an abandonment of our duties towards our allies. Think about it.
Octavian one abbreviation, MPP
If you have been nappin'
And missed all the scrappin'
The little French kitten
Took off her soft mitten,
And scratchin' and bitin'
Has now started fightin'
With words, if not claws,
Her Peaceful in-laws!
Ugh.
Guys, really peace won't affect anything, a france tank will be fighting in slovakia anyway, just like where all of our tanks are fighting, all this peace would do is take away the option that PEACE has to attack our eastern front.
At the same time, it removes our ability to open up a front with France, if it would someday be necessary for blocking purposes.
"This peace is akin to (for sake of analogy, we all know this did NOT occur) Churchill signing a NAP with Hitler so Germany can invade Russia with full force as they no longer have to defend their own borders from attack."
Actualy it is you who is Germany, you froget that you invaded France with USA, Spain and Sweden, just like Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland together. The war against USA, Canada and Spain is much more like invasion of Normandy in RL, and turnover at Stalingrad in RL WW2.
@ Ombudsman,
Enjoying the crack?
Don't clog the pipe...
France is following their RL pattern. When the fight comes to you, give up. But I think they should be fined at the least.
We sacrificed our regions to block France and don't let them advance in your country and now you sign a peace treaty, nice stab in the back...
Look We just want to close the war that has lasted already long enought, it has lasted for almost a year now. I think it's time that we move on to something else.
Also I truly feel saddened that our friends from spain feel betrayed by this, but blocking is what got us in this mess in the first place, Canada got destroyed because the bruck administration activated 7 MPP, Spain has been destroyed because they tried to Block, for us yes, nonetheless blocking isnt a good strategy.
Blocking is one of the worst strategy as it only buy some time, IF it's on original territory, and between me and you, the french know quite well that they can't be imperialistic, And we are still going to keep open war with the big Peace power, that have colony.
Remember that times changes also, France and Italy fought agaisnt indonesia in Malaysia. It should be a big sign of what is happening.
And making peace is going to be good for us, as france as occupied many territory businessman from Canada will have newer opportunity as many bought license at the cost of only 5 gold. And this extra production will also translate in more TAX MONEY, wich MEAN WE CAN FUND MORE SOLDIERS!!!!!
let's get realistic, anyone who want to keep this war open for blocking purpose has not learned a single thing from the past event of WWIII, and beside we can't be at war forever. And asking for gold would be more insulting than anything.
You know what they say about appeasers and crocodiles, don't you?
I would not sign a NAP with eFrance unless they drop any plans for action against EDEN/allied countries. Anything less is the abandonment of our allies.
I don't care whether blocking was or not a good strategy the fact is:
1 They told us attack France, open their MPP's so that you block France. Like that Canada & the U.S will have some extra-time to defend. We did it, knowing that we were risking a lot because with their alliances it was fighting alone against every single PEACE nation.
2 Our whole country got destroyed, thanks to French MPP's, little by little we took control of most regions with a good strategy. And they told us, do not recover Andalucia and the Canary Islands yet, you got to move to America to defend the U.S. And that's what we did instead of recovering those regions.
3 Without consulting anyone Canada and the U.S want to sign peace with France, and you don't want us to be angry? or to feel betrayed?
And your arguments are business, blocking is a bad strategy and the times are changing? You don't have any honor, pride, self-respect or whatever...
With you Durden.
Our allies bought our freedom. This does not honour their sacrifice.
We should not punish France for being PEACE's lap dog.
Disgraceful.
Our nations are still at war. We fought to assist in the restoration of your borders and this is how much our help means to you?
Disgraceful.
eCanadian and eAmerican goverments have betrayed their faithful allys, that fought non-stop against PEACE for the liberation of your countries.
Don't expect any help from us now.
If you're mature and strong enough to take unilateral decisions, then you're strong enough to protect your own countries on a eventual PEACE raid.
bah
Look I told the same thing to any official from Spain, if anything was to happen to you, we would in a heartbeat sign MPP, and in a matter of a few hours we could send you about 400 of our troops to secure your border. We're not letting you down, we just don't see the point in opening more MPP, and all we want is to move on with france.
Let's concentrate on the real target that still continues to crush nations and oppress small country: Hungary, russia, indonesia and serbia!
USA is the new member os PEACE
USA has betrayed Spain. If Canada signs this peace then canadians are betraying Spain too.
We lost our country for USA and Canada and both nations pay us back with this.
Well, Chucky Norris, at least you have the balls to clearly state that you're only after your own interest.
I'm of the strong opinion that we should the same and sign a peace traety and NAP with Russia and Indonesia. After all, we're too far away for them, and perhaps it's time to become friends. No special hard feelings towards them on our behalf, ya know?
Should Russia and Indo attack Hawaii or British Columbia, well, too bad...
Popcorn time.
your picture at the end of your article is usulting... really insulting
we have not betrayed our allies. especially if there are talks that France is joining EDEN. Just so you know...
Kick them while they're down!
We should settle this while we still can, otherwise we'll have an uneasy border until the next WW.
I support a peace treaty with France but there should have been more consultation with Spain...I don't think they are being entirely reasonable though, and are letting their desire to invade France eclipse their judgement. I don't really understand the reasoning, but they say we are selfish and thinking of ourselves, but to me it seems like they were hoping we'd invade France with the USA.
Hey Duke Leto...
You're not eSpanish.
eSpain is PISSED - and they are ALREADY in EDEN.
They let their country get rolled over so we could get ours back.
How do we thank them? By signing peace with eFrance without their consultation.
Perhaps you should read eSpain President's national address today.
"...we have not and we will never be signing a peace treaty with the conditions of which the USA and Canada have signed before..."
(which as we all know - is without condition)
Call it what you want - I'll call it what I want - which is what eSPAIN calls it.
Oh, and Duke Leto?
This is the eFrance President's national address recently:
"eFrance supports the renewal process of PEACEgc, with a new charter, more precise, more binding, granting respect and equity of rights and duties between all members, with the necessity for all current members to sign this new charter or to leave the alliance;- eFrance wishes to renew its MPP with eHungary in a common interest "
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/la-position-internationale-officielle-d-efrance-communiqu-pr-sidentiel--1031672/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/la-p[..]1/20
EDEN you say huh?
mhmmm
Either you know better than what the eFrench President tells her own nation - and is accountable for following thru on, or you don't know sh!t.
I don't intend to inflame this situation, I'm just curious. It seems like the only advantage to keeping our MPP with Spain open against France would be for offensive reasons. If this is the case, I don't agree with "an eye for an eye" mentality. Unless I'm missing something, I support peace with France.
It is very unfortunate that our allies have differing views on the situation, and it sounds like more consultation should have been done, but allies are not always going to agree. I hope our relations with Spain can be repaired since they have made great sacrifices for us.
Well, my position is - and ALWAYS will be, to stand by your allies before you think of your own self interests.
Especially an ally like eSpain, who gave up so much for us.
Ok Jimmy Pattison, so you wouldn't bother if eSpain signed a MPP with Hungary or Russia? Am I right? OK...
That's what Canada & USA have just done.
PS: Excuse my poor english.
From the eSpanish President's national address today:
"We think that closing a war which has 10 MPPS in favour is not the best move also without consulting nor respecting the wishes of allies like Spain or even the rest of EDEN who received the information once the decision was already taken."
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-gobierno-de-espa-a-comunicado-oficial-official-press-release-1036971/1/all" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-gob[..]1/all
Tyler could you please stop throwing more oil on the fire, we're trying to fix our relation with the spanish and the situation is not as you seem to be insisting on depicting it. We have never let any ally down, and we are not about to do so anytime soon. If anyarm were to come ANY OF OUR ALLIES, we are going to throw our soldiers into battle and sign an MPP if not already signed.
And I tought a Canadian of experience like you would have started to understand that Blocking on home territory is about the stupidest thing we can do, It's the reason why Canada, Spain, North Korea, Norway, switzerland were all destroyed, the only bad thing for us is, that we won't be able to attack France and activate MPP, how does that sound?
Instead of being emotionnal we should focus on playing this game in a more tactical way, but that doesnt mean that we will leave any friends behind. NEVER!
So please, stop making accusation like that are just deteriorating even more our relation with Spain, and endengering it even more.
No Chucky Norris, it's not Tyler F.Durden the one "deteriorating even more our relation with Spain"
In fact, he's just transcripting what our president already said and the thoughs of many of us.
The common feeling in Spain is that we got backstabbed by eUSA and eCanada, an that's not tyler's fault.
You're "trying to fix our relation with the spanish"?
YOU made the situation with eSpain.
It's like the old saying:
"If you think the problems governments create are bad, wait until you see the solutions."
You don't need any of my help in regard to oil on fire.
There would be no fire to throw hypothetical oil on if we didn't make peace without CONSULTING our allies.
I am merely responding to the sentiment of the eSpanish people, based on the article written by their President.
Funny how the administration is silent...
You know, consultation are not made by asking to the general public how they feel about a situation. We're an independant nation remember?
We have the right to stop hostility agaisnt a nation.
And I wouldnt use the phrase '' merely responding'' as you are encouraging everyone to come here and yell at us.
If you want a government Response, I'm going to get one out soon ( I'm the Director of Foreign Relation dept). We're just trying not to release anything in a second without thinking about what we are doing, and at least I will have the decency to address them in spanish, so I'll have to wait until I have someone who can translate me my response better than google.
I can translate that response for you. I'm really anxious to see that response.