Impeachment: A Rebuttal To Captain Sam
Tyler F Durden
WARNING: What you are about to read
will not hurt you.
Always read the small print.
Recently, Captain Sam published an Article casting spurious accusations that the Canadian Progressive Front organized and initiated the Impeachment vote against President Jacobi. With the addition of Scrabman into the CPF last night, the CPF now has but 4 members of Congress.
This is all just a show by Captain Sam. I won't say the DAL in
involved, because that would be a spurious accusation.
In this article, I will endeavor to utterly destroy the fundamental foundation of these accusations.
And so it begins...
As Party President of the CPF I'd like to point out a few errors in your long list of assumptions.
1. "Political parties within eCanada have a nasty habit of putting themselves before their country."
TF
😨This was not a CPF initiative, this was a member of Congress - acting on their Rights of Congress. Tantis is a former President himself, and an experienced Congressman.
How many times has Captain Sam (author) been a Congressman? ZERO.
How many times has Captain Sam been a President? ZERO.
Can you say backseat driver?
Captain Sam, attempting to fool the eCanadian public.
2. "Just 4 hours ago a prominent CPF member proposed the impeachment of Jacobi. Many members within the CPF (Most of whom were members of the Canadian Empire Party)..."
TF
😨We have members which used to be a member of EVERY existing political Party. Just yesterday, Scrabman joined the CPF. By your logic, the CNC and the DAL are also complicit, as he was members of those respective parties as well.
Just because a member of a political party initiates a vote
to Impeach, does not mean the entire party - or it's leadership is
behind it. Seeing as one cannot even run for Congress without being
a member of ANY party, these claims hold about as much water
as a broken sieve.
3. "Most of it being without merit and completely asinine. They have consistently spouted propaganda in an attempt to sway public opinion. The CPF however isn't the only party to spread disinformation."
TF
😨The nature of the impeachment was in regards to Government posturing vis a vis enacting a NAP( Non-Agression Pact) with a back-stabbing enemy - the eUK. You have been around long enough to KNOW that we had to FIGHT the eUK to regain eCanadian regions during this war.
The eUK is a member state of PEACE GC. Do you propose that we nurture their economy and sign a peace treaty with them to free up their tanks to leave the eUK?
Why should we enable the mobility of their military to aid their allies by moving to eIran, eHungary or eIndonesia by making them feel secure by signing a NAP? Many people know that the hierarchy of PEACE are transient usurpers. GLaDOS is President of eUK. Say no more.
WE MUST MAINTAIN THE CONSTANT THREAT OF WAR WITH THE eUK SO LONG AS THEY ARE A MEMBER OF PEACE GC.
One would think this was elementary...
You must be running dry Captain Sam, here you go...
4. "Personally, I like Jacobi. I think he's doing a great job."
TF
😨Hmmm, bias much? You're a pot calling the kettle black here.
"I don't like Tantis because he doesn't like who I like!"
I was in the last Jacobi cabinet, and have absolutely NO animosity towards him. He and I interacted in an honourable fashion. He knows this.
Uh huh. I think you're beginning to see a consistent theme forming here.
5. "What I'm trying to bring to attention, and trying to ask, is to end party factionalism. Stay with your beliefs, but do not dogmatically follow your party."
TF
😨The whole defining characteristic of Political Parties is to permit those with differing opinions with others the opportunity to enter into fellowship with like minded individuals.
It is the corner-stone of democracy.
Ahh, the freedom of the Press. We are here to protect you. No, really.
6. "Stay with your beliefs, but do not dogmatically follow your party."
TF
😨Once again - this was NOT a CPF initiative.
That in itself is an unsubstantiated falsehood which is intended to tarnish my otherwise platinum finish - and I resent it. It is a lie.
[img]http://pointlessbanter.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/chuck_norris_toilet_paper2.PNG[/img]
Don't mess with Chuck Norris, and he won't mess with you.
7. "And for crying out loud, stop proposing impeachments without any justification that you know won't pass."
TF
😨In case you're new to the concept of democracy, you should know that Congress is a check and balance (safeguard) to the President.
An excerpt from the website of the White House:
"To ensure that no person or group would amass too much power, the founders established a government in which the powers to create, implement, and adjudicate laws were separated. Each branch of government is balanced by powers in the other two coequal branches: The President can veto the laws of the Congress; the Congress confirms or rejects the President's appointments and can remove the President from office in exceptional circumstances...In creating this balance, the framers of the Constitution hoped to form what they called "a more perfect union" — a government that would not only serve the people but would also be a long-lived exemplar to other nations around the world."
If the Congress disagrees strongly enough with the actions of a given President, it is WITHIN THEIR POWER to remove that President from office. That is what was intended by the creation of checks and balances.
Sorry losers never win.
8. "It does nothing but make you look bad (We all know Banach gets in power if Jacobi is impeached), and irritate eCanadian citizens."
TF
😨Newsflash - William Duncan would become President, NOT Banach.
Get your facts straight.
Furthermore, this NAP frees up the PEACE GC heirarchy to leave eUK and settle in any other eNation to continue tanking against us, as we can not go after the eUK, or any other PEACE belligerent such as eHungary in Europe for a full six months via the eUK.
From the NAP:
"If either party breaks...this agreement they will pay 5000 gold to the treasury of the other party...
The fine will be paid from the official treasury organization of the attacking/embargoing country(Canada: Revenue Canada; the United Kingdom: Bank of England) to the official treasury organisation of the other country."
Well, at least we specified the account whereby the gold must originate from. All we have to do is leave .01 Gold in "Revenue Canada", and have the next President declare it no longer the "official treasury organization" of eCanada. Seeing as no stipulation was articulated as to what protocols would be enacted as a result of "Revenue Canada" not being the "official treasury organization", nor having adequate Gold to compensate the eUK, this contract is faulty - in eCanada's favour.
We can still declare war - if we so choose, and not have to pay the 5000 gold compensation.
Also from the NAP:
"If there are not enough funds in the organization, then the difference may be pulled from the official country's treasury...If there still isn't enough gold to pay the fine, then a long-term payment method will be worked out between the two countries. If an agreement cannot be met, the president who broke the contract shall be banned."
We can simply siphon off the treasury into ANY other non-governmental account.
Also, the contract does not specify if the ban is permanent, or temporary.
As this was not properly defined, it will be up to the admins to either decide, or
be unable to enforce due to lack of a proper definition.
I'd do it just to PWN! GLaDOS!
Have I made myself clear?
Check your Battle Orders eCanada!
Comments
Bravo
so who are the 11 and counting people who voted yes?
So you went to all this trouble for a guy who's not in Congress, or any part of government? Anyway, agreed. Accusations without proof and based on suspicion are unacceptable.
Yes, Gaius.
He is accusing me and the CPF of attempting to bring down the government.
It is a lie, and I have every right to address it.
People's ignorance never ceases to amaze me. Great Article.
TFD's articles are always a visual feast.
I rather enjoy TFD, though I appreciate where Captain Sam's heart is.
However, what Tantis did violated our constitution.
I ask the CPF leader publically if we will be so kind as to distance himself from Tantis in the upcoming elections, by refusing to sign his nomination papers?
PWNED
Pwned.
And that NAP was complete failure from both Gladdos and Jacobi, geez. Whoever wrote it up needs to attend a basic law class and learn what a contract should do.
Tyler, great explanation bro.
Jacobi,
I stand up for my people - even if I disagree with actions that they take in arenas where I am powerless to intervene.
I did not know that Tantis was going to initiate that vote, nor was there any CPF conspiracy to do so.
These are ALL spurious, insubstantiated allegations.
There has been NO evidence presented in this regard.
I interpret such allegations as an attack upon me, my Party and all that I stand for.
I am the leader of the CPF, not Congress.
I connot control the actions of Congressmen who are in my Party any more than the PPs of the past could control previous Impeachment votes against you initiated by members of their parties.
There were also 10 other Congressmen who voted to impeach you.
Have you made such a public request of the PP of every other party of whom a member thereof has initiated an Impeachment vote against you?
For the record, I think that signing that NAP was detrimental to the war effort and affords the enemy the freedom to concentrate military focus in ways other than defending the spectre of an eCanadian attack upon teh eUk.
It was basically the same as if Churchill had signed a NAP with Hitler on June 22, 1941 so Hitler could focus all of his forces upon Soviet Russia instead of having to keep substantial units behind to defend the English channel and France from the possibility of an Allied invasion.
If there is one lesson that people in rl have learned in their dealings with me - it is this:
Do not make me your adversary.
It is not wise.
your right DAL didnt have anything to do with this. that is precisely why sam wasnt writing propaganda. he did it all on his own. its merely him stating his view i think he is entitled to do that without being attacked
Scorpius,
Exactly my point, thank you.
If it makes a difference to Captain Sammy, I'm an active member of CPF and never heard of this impeachment until his article 😛 We aren't behind it.
While I would've preferred if Tantis had made a more public advancement of his proposal, justifying it in that manner, since I didn't even realise we signed an agreement with the UK, that an impeachment proposal was advanced, and that this was the reason for it, I think Captain Sam's classless smear effort against his political adversary with nary a hint of substantiation deserved nothing but scorn, and not even a moment's real attention, such in politics and public opinion, a most thorough and exhaustive rebuttal and repudiation of Captain Sam's baseless accusations was the order of the day, and I applaud Tyler F Durden's inspired and authoritative rebuke.
Well said indeed, Tyler.
Cheers,
AR1ARX
I wrote an article then deleted. I intended to go along with it around midnight. At 3oClock this morning, I proposed the Impeachment. If it fails always, everyone knows about the NAP, now, it helps PEACE do wht ever we want, we cant do nothing about it. I didn't tell anyone in CPF, on my decision to Impeach Jacobi, I await any disciplinary action leadership wishes to give me. I do what I do for Canada. Jacobi nor WD will fix this. Someone should...
I don't know why we have Congressman if the President cant even confide in it to help make a decision, that involves war. If it fails ill propose it again. If it fails again, now that everyone knows about the NAP and how it helps PEACE and doesn't do anything for us, ill propose it once more and resign, if it doesn't pass then I see how much our current administration and Congress really cares. They ll disagreed against an NAP with congress and only 11 of us are willing to fix it. We cant fix if Jacobi has the power to what he wants.
I posted this in another article ...
Is the NAP a function of the game itself (part of the code) or is it more of a gentleman's agreement? If the latter, how would it be enforced or regulated?
I thought this would be about Uncle Sam. I am saddened. 🙁
Velvet I answered it in the other article, its a gentleman's agreement.
I appreciate your presence here and your response, Tantis, along with your willingness to accept responsibility. Perhaps we can all agree that your intentions were rightful and honourable, but your approach was rushed and lacking in proper protocols? I would hope you could when presenting your subsequent impeachment proposal, that you include a detailed and exhaustive accounting (much like Tyler F Durden's example in this article) of why your proposal should be adopted, and follow all the requisite eCanada Parliamentary procedures.
I can offer no real opinion on Jacobi's actions that instigated this crisis, but I hope the best interests of Canada are uppermost in all our minds as we proceed down this ugly, but perhaps very necessary, endeavour.
Cheers,
AR1ARX
Does it change anything if I say that EDEN wanted this NAP?
Of course it certainly may, Jacobi, perhaps you could clarify?
Cheers,
AR1ARX
Jacobi,
That changes a lot actually.
Are we not sovereign in our Foreign Policy?
for the record, I only voted because I laughed at the chuck Norris joke.
Sounds like you should be speaking to your congress, not post that quite important point on the bottom of some article after the fact.
@Tantis
>I don't know why we have Congressman if the President cant even >confide in it to help make a decision, that involves war. If it >fails ill propose it again. If it fails again, now that everyone >knows about the NAP and how it helps PEACE and doesn't do >anything for us, ill propose it once more and resign, if it >doesn't pass then I see how much our current administration and >Congress really cares. They ll disagreed against an NAP with >congress and only 11 of us are willing to fix it. We cant fix if >Jacobi has the power to what he wants.
Some Congress members of Canada tend to speak more than what they should in public. This occurs in all countries just about. That is why it was done, however, I would hope that Jacobi did atleast give you guys a heads up right before signing it.
Jacobi made a hard decision, however, that one hard decision should not cloud the many decisions he has made in the past. He's done alot of good for Canada as President for you guys, especially in this war. I'm sure he's learned from some mistakes regarding this ( As in, bringing it to Congress before signing it if he didn't do that ), but that shouldn't take away the trust you've given to him before. He's put alot of work in, I doubt he's trying to shaft EDEN or Canada.
No, I don't support to the NAP, but that's Canada's business and not mine. You guys got alot of trust from us in the US. All you can do now is move forward with it, best to not linger in hatred about it.
Look at it this way as well, the eUK cannot declare war and block you like what eIran wanted to do. Once North America is cleaned up, Canada is entirely safe to focus on economic growth.
Elderon Zakath,
Wasn't the chronology of the eCan/eUK NAP strangely coinciding with eFrance's ressurgent attack upon eUSA?
As I said above in a previous comment, it just allowed eUK tanks to move to eRussia. No way eFrance could've begun a new offensive without a eCAN/eUK NAP