How did we end up in this???
Quicksilver
How did we end up in this???
I read this question in another article, from an eAmerican newbie (Elizabeth Jones - how do you do?), and it was so heartfelt, I almost heard it ringing in my ears... and I saw the answers for it, but they were so woefully inadequate, that I decided to give you one, and I am only asking you to read it first and not dismiss it as PEACE propaganda.
For I am from PEACE, more specifically from Hungary, a country and an alliance that is your enemy, and doing our best to conquer your lands. Yeah, now you know, I am not making excuses, we went to war to win. But as per your question, I, as an outsider can tell you the answer, if only you care to listen.
As far as I can remember, and that is over 7 months now, I saw eUSA on the top of the population rankings, having always more citizens than any other country. I was starting my carreer when you attacked France together with the most of Atlantis, and I saw the dogs of war yelping at the gates of Paris. I moved to France daily to put my then small bricks to the wall, and I was sure that the war could only end one way - eUSA conquering most of France, and Spain, Sweden, Canada and UK dividing the rest. I was oh so wrong... your attacks were repelled like it was so many bugs only, as soon as PEACE could organize its forces. eUSA turned out to be a big, but empty balloon...
To understand this I have researched a lot, for those times there weren't as many marvelous tools as today. I had a company there, I talked to people, I wrote articles there, and I tried to understand this phenomena. What I found then is no secret today, but it was a revelation to me then: eUSA's citizens are mostly dead or dying. You have huge numbers as citizens, but if you check any statistic tool, you will see that about half of them are dying, most of them has bad wellness, and only a fractions is healthy. Why is that so and what does it cause?
It was so, because you only had 2 Q5 hospitals in the whole country, while your citizens mostly lived in their RL regions, scattered in the country - and you still seem to want to stay this way no matter how bad is it for you and your country. It was so, because you had no education programs, mentor-system, tutorials to help new people to get into the game, to understand it, and make the most of it. It was so because you had incompetent leaders, who lived in the dream of a huge country, with most citizens and did nothing to make those citizens active, as you yourself said, to be heard. It was so because you had no training wars or real ones to develop the population and raise general wellness levels.
What did it cause? Well, working and fighting with low wellness makes economy work bad (check eUSA's GDP vs eHungary's here: http://www.erepublik.com/en/rankings/countries/1/4), not competitive, producing not enough goods and for a high price - producing less in way of taxes too for the government to spend on war for example. My company in the USA worked with imported Hungarian workforce, people whom I mentored and taught and helped to learn to play tis game...
Also, because the population has low wellness, because they are not organized, and communication lines are not implemented for them - they (you) are practically worthless in battles, as a citizen-army, because your government cannot order you to fght in the right place at the right time, and your damage is far to low to make a difference anyway. So eUSA had to, and still has to rely on tanks - but you have less tanks too than PEACE, in fact less than eHungary, because for a good 4 months we have honed our army and aour citizen-army to perfection - meaning to make and coordinate the most damage from the least ammount of gold, while you have to tank battles for a lot of gold, meaning high taxes, and citizens not able to buy their weapons, therefore not developing still...
In the meanwhile, you continued to have a big mouth and proclaim yourselves the Nr 1 power on erep, alienating your allies and turning the other side's attention to you, as main target... so, you failed in economy, in education, in military organisation, and in politics too... that is how you came to be in this predicament. Believing too much in your RL power and not noticing that in this game the power comes differently.
You must work hard to get it.
Like we did, eHungarians.
I wish you luck in rectifying these mistakes. Maybe your generation will actually learn from the mistakes of the previous ones.
And then eUSA can be really live up to its potential.
Quicksilver
(former president of eHungary)
A magyar olvasóknak: ez az amerikaiaknak íródott, leírva a hibákat amiket elkövettek, és amik miatt most ebben a kulimászban vannak. Mi már tudjuk mik ezek. 🙂
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pertamaxxx 🙂)
eUSA please make more mistake
Sad but true. I honed my skills fighting in the Romania-Indo, rather than sitting around at home twiddling thumbs.
voted 🙂
These mistakes will be corrected.
People learn from their own mistakes. Intelligent people learn from other peoples mistakes!
No no no, if I chant "USA #1" enough it will be true!
PEACE PROPAGANDA PEACE PROPAGANDA! *breaks down and starts sobbing uncontrollably*
>I wish you luck in rectifying these mistakes. Maybe your generation will actually learn from the mistakes of the previous ones.
And then eUSA can be really live up to its potential
Thanx for the free advice QS
great article, voted with pleasure
Quicksilver stop mentioning those god damm Q5 hospitals or you will be labeled a PEACEnick and PEACE propaganda agent. 😛
USA should permanently rid themselves of Emerick and they'd probably be a lot better off
Lessons of these kind are really hard.
@Ikarti: Emerick is Great! Praise his name! On the other hand Ajay Bruno 😛 Give Ajay Bruno to eHungary and we shall sign a PEACE treaty with the eUSA!
Zoli, I know, it is a risk - but I am less labelled as a PEACE propagandist as you 🙂
Those advices are too important to be free. )))
Straight to the point,as allways QS.
great article ...it is true what you say i must recognize..the eAmericans are not so great like rthe real ones..maybe thay don-t care in this game....but if they rise as the real USA army..it will be hard for PEACE ...
Harrison quotes:
"PEACE still does intend to strike the United States.Or, maybe, PEACE chickened out."
"we have the strongest army in the world, the best economy in the world, and the potential to be the strongest PTO force in the world"
"PEACE has always been too afraid to attack a unified United States"
Not bad, but you ignore one vital part: Hungary started out from scratch as a nation dominated by another.
The eUS has never been invaded until now--there was little reason for the lower citizens to get involved as eHungary had to to liberate itself. There are now extensive programs dedicated to this very process, but this invasion is the real spark. After this, the eUS will have a new life and a new way of playing the game--the way Hungary can play it now.
Well, at least you're honest.
@Zoli
Ajay is too self centered to help his country and not go to Hungary, we've all tried to get him to move. Hes just too selfish.
Hekter: it is true. But still does not explain why your leaders have always ignored the new citizens, aside from their numbers, and why they pursued this '2 hospital is enough' policy, coupled with not moving people there.
Besides it is really not necessary to play the game hard, I know - but then on what base have you proclaimed to be Nr1 power?
@ikarti: why dont you waste your time trying to bring lenin back to life or something like that
I still have a better chance of doing that than the eUS does of not being total failures.
@Quicksilver
I cannot speak for the rest of our 'leaders'--there are things that are always said to boost confidence and nothing else. Not every word they have uttered they take seriously.
As for the hospitals, militarily and economically, it makes sense. Try organizing the production and payment for 51 Q5s and see how well that ends up for you 😉
New citizens are a focus, but you have to understand that average American browser gamer does not look below the surface. There is only so much, that we, as citizens and program-runners, can do to create interest. There have been great strides in this, but if you present an average American browser gamer with the information required to thrive here, and it generally drives them off. That is a decently large social barrier to get through.
@Hekter: i doubt anybody would say that you should build 51 q5 hospitals. But not having on in California, New York or Texas, states with big RL population, is just stupid.
I am especially amused about the "2 forts" theory, which i a gigantic failure. How can you have 2 forts, when there are over 10 states besides that which can be attacked?
This article sounds like a spanking 🙂
Voted!
Good article!
Good article Quick, and I agree with it, though I am fighting for USA. Romania just purchased its last Q5 hospital today, in the last original region that did not have one (Crisana). There was only a Q4 hospital (that will dissappear now), and Crisana is not a very populated region. Well, nothing like California or Texas.
Excellent points re: mentorship programs Quicksilver. Never realised eUSA never had one. Must be why they're getting the s@°%t kicked out of them right now.
eSwedes, eRomanians, eSpaniards, eCroats, ePoles, even my adopted hosts, the eGreeks, cause more damage per citizen soldier than the eUS citizen soldiers currently. So much manpower, but just not used effectively.
I hope the eUSA remember these hard lessons after the dust has settled.
Hekter: nobody said anything about 51 hospitals. Q5 hospitals in this game are strategic elements and should be handled as such. We have a Q5 in 5 of the 7 original regions (they are for giving chance of fighting to the whole of our population), and strategic ones where the resources are (because people raise the wall and they only go to a region if there is a Q5 hospital there). I do not want to give advice here, now, but anyhow, check a population map, like the one at egobba's, and start deploying hospitals where the population demands it, and where you can expect an attack (you should have done one in Alaska too, and make people move there). Also teaching people to move where it is necessary is a must here.
About the social element: that is why you must target newbies from many sides. It is not enough to throw a tutorial at them and expect them to be perfect from game mechanics. Mostly you cannot even expect them to read it. You have to convey information from many sources. An off-game tutorial, even a video one is a must; frequent articles about specific points in the media; a designated chatroom where they can ask questions and even publishing excerpts of those chatlogs in the forum so anyone can find them; extensive mentor-systems, where one mentor works with max. 10 newbies, until they reach 'adulthood', a sponsor system, in which people who are richer but have no time to mentor, give the newbies food/gift/weapon; and a good community, where they are heard, where they can and dare to ask. These are all needed. Basically... you must be tenacious and bombard newbies with information from all sides, because you cannot know which method will work with specific people.
A repülőgép mindig széllel szemben száll fel, sohasem hátszéllel.
Ahogy eMagyarország csinálta - eRomániával szemben.
Ma eMagyarország szuperhatalom.
Good article, voted.
I think Hekter gets the point 🙂
I really think that this war is to refresh the life in erepublik. After the eRomanian empire broke the fun was out of the play.
Now -hopefully-, a new enemy borns, and shows what it worth!
(The other thing is, that the new players coming gonna be aggressive, so when they have a chance to strike back they will want everything in return this conquer. Means they are still silly like IRL 😁
Good luck anyway!
like most of the times, a pleasure to read your articles, voted!
Good article, active and informed players/citizens are essential for any country.
mega voted..!
You never help people like czech republic its under TO threat and you havent helped us your supposed to help the world.
Very good article, it would be nice if people would take it to heart. This is a game, and not real life, so success depends on following the rules of the game.
~simplex
Nice article I am not voting for it though, simply because we need to keep our papers in the top 5. Some of your observations are true in a way.
We do have active mentor ship programs and we have a highly organized Army our citizenship army needs help but we can not make them do things.
As for the Q5 hospital thing you have to remember we have 51, 51 regions to make that many Q5's would be really expensive I'm sure we are working on that situation, but right now most of our money is being spent in a war.
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yawn
You comparison the eUS to Hungary is correct for the most part but falls short in adequately describing the key differences. Its like comparing an apple to a coconut. Both are fruits, but how they came to be and their ultimate state at a fixed state of time will always be radically different.
Interesting. I may be on the opposite side of Hungary in this here war. However... what you say here seem to be the truth. I've been researching what has been going on (As I'm a newbie as well)... and I'll be damned.
I'll still continue to defend the eUSA as it is my home. But I for one will work for some kind of change here.
Most of the info is accurate ..besides the fact that USA tanked more then Peace .Peace pulled from the hat again some thousands of gold to tank more .
Details about the fights so far can be found here :
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/why-peace-is-winning-update--861713/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/why-[..]/1/20
Good article Thank you/
yay peace propoganda! Just like them to reference a sh***y noob article
>>eUSA conquering most of France, and Spain, Sweden, Canada and UK dividing the rest.... wait what?
This strikes me as true. Not to say it will *stay* true, but it does sound accurate as an assessment of recent history.
On the plus side, I see and read all sorts of things now about how to really play this game, and it involves much more than simply standing on a soapbox and shouting "America is Great!". I take this as a very positive sign, and, thus, am optimistic about the future. Things are changing here, for the better.
So, while PEACE certainly has the upper hand today, I'd be willing to bet in a short time that the playing field will level off considerably. To any Americans reading this, despair not. We have been complacent, certainly, but better days are coming. Count on it.
the eUSA is not eHungary. I just don't think the average american is that interested in this game, thats why they are inactive, easy come easy go. we have 51 original regions, more than twice any others nations. Perhaps Alaska should of had a Q5. but we really do have a way to communicate war orders. For other things, the government fails, not that the flooding of our media helped, but Fortis was not announced in game until it had been voted on.