Grandmaster failure in USA-Pol relations – Poland raises worries, invades Mexico
Sossu
Today on day 882 Poland shocked the World as they proceed to directly declare the first war ever after their rise to become an empire and substantial baby boom during their invasion of Germany. Poland, being the most populated country in the world, has to pay a ludicrous amount of Gold to declare war as the declaration cost is based on the amount of citizens able to fight. As the new rule gives players as low as level 3 the possibility to fight, the costs of the war declaration for Poland, having to pay for 10% of their fighting population, are expected to have risen between 3000-4000 Gold.
The unfortunate nation who will face the might of the Polish armies is Mexico, who relied that their only possible attacker would be USA, who they share fairly neutral relations, and didn’t care to host a set of defensive MPP😒
. Therefore Poland will get them with their pants down, accompanied with only an MPP with Malaysia. Mexico is not a member of Phoenix, but defensive MPP😒
will most likely be written as, for now, Phoenix is trying to suppress the growing might of Poland and they do not want them to success in their goals regarding Mexico.
Defences of Karnataka are weakened, invasion of Indonesia ruled out as the active MPP with Poland is abolished.
The tensions between USA and Poland regarding differences of how Eden should proceed in the fight against PHX, a catastrophic failure in Pakistan and a certain set of logs have culminated as these two superpowers have decided to drop the invaluable activated MPP against Indonesia and Russia. To me this is an unforgivable, very foolish and short-sighted act. The active MPP with Poland served as the best line of defence from Indonesia in Karnataka, and now when it is abandoned USA is left only with Croatia, who despite being fierce fighters can easily be distracted by attacks on their home soil.
The US President Woxan and the Polish President adios_pl have let the differences of their nations to grow so large it is more acceptable to weaken both countries instead of trying to replenish the harm done by some drastically overhyped logs. Or at least let the time heal the wounds. Poland and USA might be best buddies 30 days from now and we can see them already fighting shoulder to shoulder to liberate South Africa. The damage done by not signing the MPP again is irreversible and the direct consequences include the defences around Karnataka weakened + the option to carry out two great campaigns in the future, ruled out. It was like burning a lush rain forest full of defenceless kittens.
America alerted as Poland moves through Spain to attack Mexico.
The reactions of some US citizens to this tactical move have saddened me a lot. Many Americans, including Joe DaSmoe in his article, proclaimed that Poland is moving through Spain to attack the United States as promised in the National Goals for this month. However these announcers of doomsday forgot to look at the map first to see that Poland is going to the wrong direction. Attacking the United States would require swapping through the provinces of Castilla y Leon and Galicia. Instead, Poland has gone south through Andalucia and Canary Islands to wage war on Mexico and attack the very southern tip of it, the region of Southeast of Mexico.
Visual explanation of the differences between the two routes.
After noticing this, many started to fear that Mexico is a part of a Polish plot, serving as a new Kuyshu and giving Poland the chance to double whammy California and Florida at the same time. This scheme was supposedly verified as Poland is signing an MPP with Mexico so they can sneak out of the war much like Indonesia in case of failure. Well, this isn’t exactly how it goes.
The vote of MPP is actually a tactical move, preventing Mexico to propose any MPP😒
by themselves. However it does not serve any geater purpose and reaches only to be a curiosity as nearly ten Phoenix nations have already begun signing MPP😒
with Mexico. What makes it hilarious is that Poland is so strong nation that practically all of Phoenix have to sign MPP😒
with Mexico to refrain them from attacking. Signing 10 MPP😒
carries out a cost of 2000 Gold, half of what Poland spent for the war dec and Phoenix has to maintain this protection every month from now on, or at least the three big ones, Russia/Hungary/Serbia, still costing 600 G per month.
Mexico signing a crapload of powerful MPP😒
rules out the last speculations of Poland planning for an attack on the United States in the near future. The amount of paranoia reminds us however that the suspicions towards Poland after the logs released just before Presidential elections still remain, and the collaboration and forgiviness of these two great nations is still waiting to be carried out.
Sleep tight America, there is nothing to worry about.
Poland guns for High Oil.
The motive of Poland swapping through Spain is revealed to be as boring as to gain new natural resources. The oil found in Southeast of Mexico is the primary objective, and the new money drain for Phoenix comes as a side advantage.
The costs of this operation are substantial. The 4000 G DoW is very high regarding that Poland only gains oil in the process. Were Poland and USA still friends, I see no obstacle for USA to rent one of their oils to Poland in order for both nations to prosper. For instance moving Poland to Louisiana would have costed about 500G, slightly above 10% of the costs of the current invasion.
Also Poland attacking Spain deleted them from Croatia’s MPP-list against Hungary, raising the needs for Eden to get a dummy nation to swap through friendly nations in order to prevent screwing up the MPP😒
constantly.
Hopes were raised that Poland would move through Colombia either peacefully or forcefully to reach for Peru and claim it’s high iron for themselves. Poland does not have a war with them, and a new 4000g cost would be too expensive in such a short period of time. Also Colombia is signing an MPP with Serbia and more are expected to follow when Poland moves next door.
Apart from creating a moneyhole in Mexico, the headache for PHX made by this move adds up as South East of Mexico also borders Colombia. PHX has to maintain a MPP set powerful enough to refrain Poland from attacking this small nation as well and sharing the oil found from there with their Spanish allies. The peaceful continent of South America, home to many small countries under the Brazilian umbrella is now disrupted by a giant Polish middle finger right in the middle of everything.
All in all the invasion of Mexico is a new sign of Poland expressing the will of the stronger one. Mexico is a neutral country and the only reason to attack them is to claim resources. Eden never presented as world police, they have always helped countries who help Eden in some way or, in return, weaken PHX. This is however underlined today as Eden apparently does not intervene when Poland bashes their weakers and Phoenix, although unable to challenge Poland directly, is given the chance to present themselves as the good guys.
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It was like burning a rain forest full of defenceless kittens.
yea it is fail
The amount of paranoia reminds us however that the suspicions towards Poland after the logs released just before Presidential elections still remain
I blame us leadership for paranoia of us citizens. they did nothing to stop it and actually encouraged it
Were Poland and USA still friends, I see no obstacle for USA to rent one of their oils to Poland in order for both nations to prosper.
they were allies and there were such kind of proposals not only for poland to get high but also for other eden countries. I dont know where proposals met opposition or who is to blame for that
The MPP thing is reckless.
ma ko da je bitno sta se desava, vazno je da ce da bude makar malo zanimljivo pa ko pobedi pobedi ... 🙂
Yay for informative articles!
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The MPP thing is reckless.
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hmm, interesting...
q5 vote
Voted.
This whole day gave me a headache.
Sossu - i think downplaying the eUSA-ePoland bitterness is a little overdone here. It is still early days to predict what ePoland is aiming for in eSouth-America. By not renewing MPPs with eUSA - indeed is the bigger mistake of all in this week.
Its not paranoia, and we will sleep fine. They have positioned themselves to be permanently poised just a few regions from our southern border. Given the current tension between our countries, its a big move.
So its not about being paranoid, its about being aware. I am willing to bet a lot of citizens wouldn't even have noticed Poland's movements today without the media shining a light on it.
It's the invasion of Southeast of Mexico rather than the invasion of Mexico, because it obviously won't go any further into Mexico.
SE of Mexico, other than having high oil, has a border with Colombia as well. This will force Phoenix nations to add about 800 Gold more per month in paying for new mpps with Mexico and Lolombia, as well as mounting up pressure and constant threat to the bunch of tranquil and sleepy countries in the neighborhood that have been used for too long to participate in support of PHX operations without fearing reprisals on their home soil. Not anymore. Feel the heat now.
Nice.
Good stuff
/me likes this invasion of Mexico.
Great article
Good move! Bring the war to PHX "silent" supporters, make PHX pay to protect them!
As for this constant paranoia, is there nobody in USA to be a voice of reason? All prominent players keep fueling this fear of EDEN attacking USA when we all know it is out of the question.
Btw not extending MPP is both countries failure.
eMéxico arriba!
"However these announcers of doomsday forgot to look at the map first to see that Poland is going to the wrong direction." x2. Excellent as always.
Wow man, your articles are some of the best I have read on erepublik. Keep it up, because these articles are really sparking a new interest in the game for me.
Btw, they have both Croatia and Greece MPPs in the war USA vs Indo...
lol.. naive article
Nice article.
But, i do hope US vs Poland.
Mexico first, USA second. It will be exciting.
Well I'm from Poland but it is your newspaper that cleared everything xD
Greetings
Hm. Interesting. Well, I guess, as an eAmerican, I can still say hoidy-toidy "We're not imperialist!" stuff since we left EDEN. Either way though, I don't really care, this is exciting and eRepublik hasn't been as exciting recently, I can't even find battles to fight in.
Great article!
ok, but what does this mean really for us?
Poland declined to renew the MPP with the US. This was unfortunate as it weakened open MPP wars vs various Phx nations, thus limiting the options of Allied forces. What a silly and counterproductive move.
To date the US has taken the high road, we have politely declined all sorts of offers from various countries around the New World. I hope that the rumors are wrong and that Poland does not make a foolish decision. The hegelian dialectic states that we sow the seeds of our own destruction, the next few days will see i that applies in erepublik.
US forces, the #1 damage dealer for the Allies in many recent battles, remain on high alert.
Anyone claiming this is some sign of aggression towards USA needs to be b*tchslapped really hard, there is no way in hell Poland will ever do that, I don't know how you can't see it. It's frustrating reading such stuff, specially from experienced and respected US players, it's like you want to create a rift between US and Poland for whatever reason
I agree dropping MPP between the two was a huge mistake by both sides. Now all hopes of USA getting one of SA titaniums is gone, which is a shame because none of top EDEN/EDEN friendly countries have titanium and our production will be low, and it will hurt Polish economy, as well as US one
The move towards Mexico and eventually South America is brilliant by Poland, cause in worst case scenario they get oil (potentially good resource in V2) and drain gold from Phoenix by forcing them to sign MPPs with Colombia/Mexico and in best case, they get Great Andes, which would leave them with one high resource to go, titanium. Such economic potential in hands of most populated country in the world means stronger EDEN, and stronger USA, and when all you anti-Polish Americans out there realize that, we can work towards repairing the damage both sides did by creating the rift between the two
insightz I vote you.
insightz I vote you. x2 haha
Who is next after Mexico?
Current national Polish goals:
* California,
* Florida,
* Karnataka
Think about it?
Well..Removing that MPP is and hostile move,Poland is Imperialist just like us.They are powerful,maybe more powerful and have some support from Eden.
They can attacck us if they want it..altough this would mean bad relations with some Eden players who still like USA.
Whole PEACE GC,at the edge of it's might,coulnd't conquer us..Poland can't do this alone.
any way..I'll be ready when they come...Don't misunderstand this.....Poland and Polish players are still my eFriends and they will always be 😃
every stronger eden nation should attack weaker phoenix or pro phoenix neighbors, you see now phoenix will have to waste gold every month on mexico, they also have to pay for slovenian mpp.s etc
let them burn gold 🙂
Great article!
We sign mpp with Mexico and Colombia? Why exactly? They are not our allies, nor our enemies. Why should we protect them for hundreds of golds, if they can't give us anything (fighting force, natural resource, staging grounds for later operations etc).
And high oil don't make me rofl it's the worst resource of all, there is a huge shortage of quality land workers, and all of them are working in Rhone Alp-s corps, and now you try to feed your comrades this bullsh't that they want to weaken themselves, by setting up a colony in SE-Mexico? Come on...
What could loland do? Invade Brazil? AGAIN? Against some hefty little MPP-s? Argentina? The same? PERU?
Think emerickans...should be obvious..they are coming for you. And you can't talk yourself out of this anymore. I hope our friends from Russia will attack you also, so we can have some ouf your regions. AGAIN.
Greetz
PHXTR0ll
insightz I vote you. x3
Whole PEACE GC,at the edge of it's might,coulnd't conquer us..Poland can't do this alone.
Couldn't conquer you, because your allies saved your sorry @sses, while Peace GC was currently occupied on multiple fronts (Greek-Turk, French-Spanish, Everyone-Canada/USA). Don't be too overconfident. And i remember, that you begged for peace with Indonesia back then, when you were Florida'd.
Oh well...selective memory.
PHXTR0ll nr 2
Lock n' Load Poland
insightz
What is the point of the US having SA diamond since they can rent a Canadian one?
I don't know how Canadians feel about renting regions, they have 7 high wood and didn't seem to want to share those, if they decline to share, they'll get more cash out of those they got cause more workers will come to Canada
But if they're willing to rent, with USA getting SA titanium, Canada's extra one could've gone to Spain/Poland.
Also USA's presence in SA would put an end to constant hell SA has been going through since the beginning of the game, they could hold regions during congress elections and chase off Brazil/Argentina and other vultures so EDEN wouldn't have to waste 1k gold a month on SA's MPPs and constant mobile battles there and we could focus our resources on other things. But that's not gonna happen now thanks to unreasonable leadership from both sides
Poland can into North and Northeast of Brazil?
Now that would be a move that would cause some damage to Phoenix.
From the MPP point of view (for PHX supporters) it's an interesting move. We always have trouble facing PHX head-to-head. Maybe some monetary diversions will help. As for them attacking us, they're probably trying to ruffle our feathers. I doubt they'll attack us. That would be stupid and the only winner of that bout will be PHX. I wonder what's really going on though. Indonesia doesn't worry me like they used tom but that doesn't mean I don't want as many guns as possible facing their way. We coulda used that MPP.
viva México carajo
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Voted Hard. Losing that MPP is a terrible mistake by both parties, period.
I love how the eUS is to blame for the drop in mpp as if it is our fault. When ever it can't be denied that poland did something wrong, it becomes a mistake that "the eUS and Poland made." That is a big whenever, since it seems that it can be denied that secret meetings with Phoenix, stating national goals against the eUS, Threatening to invade, Trolling the eUS media, launching attacks against neutral nations on our continent without so much as a heads up are not even questionable activities. Its so unfortunate, it seems, that our leaders are so intent on making Poland look bad as we all have seen from this article and comments, its really just America screwing up the world again.
Really, this is about getting a foot hold in N. America, keeping options up, and getting oil. However, there is a reason that the mpp was dropped and we weren't told. ePoland is just trying to remind us that they could. Its the age old bully trick. You act like your about to hit someone then stop at the last second and tell them its a joke or that you were doing something else. But the goal is obvious, to attempt to remind someone who the big dog is, or to feel out a future opponent.