Ein herber Schlag gegen die Demokratie / Bad News for Democracy
herrmueller
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Ein herber Schlag gegen die Demokratie
Präsident Starkad Rorlikson mit undemokratischen Mitteln aus dem Amt verdrängt
Die Redaktion des Exilhessen staunte nicht schlecht, als der aktuelle Präsident von eDeutschland, Starkad Rorlikson, heute abend plötzlich nicht mehr zur Wiederwahl anstand. Was war geschehen? Wir wollen versuchen, hier eine Zusammenfassung der Ereignisse festzuhalten.
Akt 1: BBJ (ca. Tag 555)
Billy Bob Joe, der damalige Parteivorsitzende von FDD, entschließt sich, für das Amt des Präsidenten zu kandidieren. Starkad weist in einem Kommentar darauf hin, dass BBJ versprochen hatte, eine Abstimmung darüber abzuhalten, der von beiden der Kandidat der FDD werden soll.
Akt 2: Abstimmung (Tag 559)
BBJ führt die Abstimmung über die Kandidatur durch. Als die Tendenz klar wird, dass Starkad der bevorzugte Kandidat ist, zieht BBJ seine Kandidatur zurück und stellt Starkad als Kandidaten auf.
Akt 3: Habraka (Tag 562)
Einige Stunden vor Beginn der Wahl zieht Habraka Abrivianius, der inzwischen den Parteivorsitz der FDD übernommen hat, die Kandidatur von Starkad zurück: die FDD unterstützt nun die Kandidatur von Gobba. Der amtierende eDeutsche Präsident wird also nicht zur Wiederwahl antreten können.
Nebelkerzen
Einigermaßen verwundert fragte Der Exilhesse bei Habraka nach, wie es zu diesem Vorgang gekommen war. Habraka antwortete, dass mehrere Kongressabgeordnete ihn darauf aufmerksam gemacht hätten, dass nach Burning Spirit der eDeutsche Kongress beschlossen habe, kein Präsident solle länger als zwei Amtszeiten im Amt bleiben. Er habe daher die Kandidatur von Starkad beendet.
Auch Gobba hatte dieses Argument im Wahlkampf verwendet. Der Exilhesse wandte sich daraufhin an Gobba mit der Bitte um einen Link auf diesen Beschluss; Gobba konnte einen solchen Link allerdings nicht liefern: der Beschluss sei möglicherweise in einem Umzug des eDeutschen Forums verloren gegangen.
Es ist offensichtlich, dass ein Gesetz, dass nicht einsehbar ist und dessen Existenz nicht einmal nachgewiesen werden kann, für niemanden bindend sein kann.
Der Exilhesse hat diese Recherche-Ergebnisse an Habraka weitergegeben mit der Bitte, wiederum Starkad als Kandidaten aufzustellen; Habraka verweigerte jedoch bis Redaktionsschluss jeden Kommentar hierzu.
Zusammenfassung
Habraka Abrivianius, der seinen Posten als Parteivorsitzender der FDD im Übrigen nicht durch eine demokratische Wahl erlangt hat, verweigert dem amtierenden eDeutschen Präsidenten ohne einen vernünftigen Grund die Kandidatur zur Wiederwahl. Starkad Rorlikson wird mit undemokratischen Mitteln unter Vorspiegelung falscher Tatsachen aus seinem Amt gedrängt.
Ein böses Vorzeichen für die Amtszeit desjenigen, der die Wahl morgen gewinnt!
Bad News for Democracy
President Starkad Rorlikson removed from office by undemocratic means
This evening, Der Exilhesse editors were surprised by the news that the current eGerman President, Starkad Rorlikson, was no longer running for re-election. What had happened? We will try to give an overview of the events leading up to this:
Act 1: BBJ (ca. Day 555)
Billy Bob Joe, then party president of FDD, decides to run for president. Starkad posts a comment to this article in which he asks BBJ about their agreement that the FDD's candidate was to be determined by a public poll.
Act 2: The Poll (Day 559)
BBJ conducts the poll about the candidacy. When it becomes clear that Starkad is the preferred candidate, BBJ stops his campaign and reinstates Starkad's.
Act 3: Habraka (Tag 562)
A few hours before the election, Habraka Abrivianius, now president of FDD, cancels Starkad's campaign again and shifts the FDD's support to Gobba. The current eGerman president will thus not be able to run for re-election.
FUD
Confused, Der Exilhesse asked Habraka how this came to pass. Habraka told us that several congressmen had approached him with the information that after Burning Spirit, Congress had ratified a law which restricted every eGerman President to a maximum of two terms. He stated that he had removed Starkad's candidacy for this reason.
Gobba had used this argument in his campaign, as well. Der Exilhesse therefore asked Gobba to provide us with a link to this law. Gobba, however, was unable to produce any evidence. He stated that the discussion along with the ratification may have been lost when the eGerman forum was moved.
It is self-evident that a law which is not visible and whose very existence cannot even be proven, cannot be binding to anyone.
Der Exilhesse has passed the results of its research on to Habraka, along with the plea to reinstate Starkad as the FDD's candidate. Habraka has neither commented nor acted on this.
Summary
Habraka Abrivianius, who did not even rise to his post as party president of the FDD by a democratic election, denies the current eGerman President to run for re-election without a sound reason to do so. Starkad Rorlikson is being removed from office by undemocratic means and under false pretenses.
A bad omen indeed for the tenure of whoever is going to win the election tomorrow!
Comments
Danke für diese erhellenden Worte! Gruselig, was da mit der Demokratie in unserem Lande passiert. Ich sehe eine dunkle Zukunft für unser eDeutschland, wenn es so weitergeht :/ ...
Ich könnte bösartig sein und etwas schreiben...
Aber wozu!
Die eWelt basiert auf Krieg und "Sandkastenintreigen"!
arme nummer...
The two-term limit is very real, and many Congressmen did agree to it after Operation Burning Spirit. I know it exists; I came up with the final version. It was more of an unofficial "correct" rule. You can only be president twice in a row, after which you are supposed to not run again, and after at least a one-term break you can run again.
The real blow for democracy would be to allow Starkad to run for a third term in a row instead of bringing in new blood. I always thought change was good, and power-hungry presidents bad.
Oh and uhm, just for the record, dear Gobba didn't know I was going to remove Starkad's candidacy, he probably found out with the rest of you a couple of hours ago. Just wanted to mention that in case some of you decide to start another witch-hunt 😉.
Mark
DKN personally confirmed to me that such a "law" was indeed debated, but never ratified, so it seems somewhat of a mute point to me.
This is just to camouflage the fact that for two months I had to fend of Habra trying to make me oursource the Bundeswehr to him...and he was just out to pay me back, guess his ego couldnt handle it.
Apparantly he thinks , since he knows he cannot influence me, that with some "new blood" also comes a new chance for his private plans.
Mark Wahlberg: come on, if this was to be binding to anyone today, you'd really need to produce some more evidence for its existence than "I know"!
I mean, I can see that this is just a pretext, but... Can't you people at least use an excuse that holds a little bit of water? This farce is so undignified!
@ herrmueller
one of the downsides of this game is, and I understand that it might be frustrating, to not know everything that went on before one started to play.
But we did talk about this in January and were all in agreement of it.
@Gobba: don't pratronize me. What you're talking about is not law, it's - at most - tradition. I'm really not interested in tradition, and it's certainly not binding to me. It's not binding to you, either, since you're saying that you want to do things differently than the last administration, right?
Habraka is basically saying that he is distorting tomorrows elections based on hearsay!
We cannot have eGermany ruled by some aristocratic class of players who "know" since they've "been there". That's not democracy - that's the road to tyranny in my book.
Laws which are in effect need to be transparently visible to all eGermans. Your alleged rule obviously isn't.
🙂 well then we will just have to make a clear and binding rule out of it after tomorrow as I still believe it to be only fair to new players! And to prevent exactelly what you are calling a road to tyranny.
Well, that might be a good idea - but it won't change the fact that the pending elections will have been distorted beyond recognition by this baseless play for power.
And if you make president, many people will always think that you had something to do with this, and wonder if you would actually have been elected if things had been the way they should be. Congratulations! As a democratic candidate, I believe you should actually have urged Habraka to reinstate Starkad's candidacy.
Second herrmueller and Herr Schmidt. These elections are now tainted. Even if Congress at the time informally agreed, no official law was passed and that makes the rule inapplicable to these elections. With that, and the absolutist action of what's his name, the elections tomorrow are unconstitutional (under the existing rules of eGermany) and therefore null and void in my book. Never mind that getting in bed with what's his name wasn't a good idea to begin with, I'm disappointed in you, Gobba! And I'm even more disappointed in BBJ. Were you really so afraid to lose again that you felt you had to resort to such dubious tactics?
Calling elections unconstitutional because a party leader changed the supported candidate is what I deem disappointing...
No one seems to mention that the party Starkad originally ran for in the past two terms did not support him either! It was the FDD the party that supported every President until now that was the only party supportive of him until yesterday...
The main four Parties of Germany are supporting my cause and I find it sad to see the "herr" community and Momma Choo seeking for reasons to be unapprechiative of the help I am offering Germany!
What we're talking about here is the way Starkad's candidacy has been handled by Habraka, not about your agenda.
But I guess you've realized by now that you cannot win that discussion without any kind of legal basis, so you're trying to open up another argument?
Ich finde es äußerst interessant, wie urplötzlich, aus dem "Nichts" altes Gewohnheitsrecht, ca. 16 Stunden vor der Wahl ausgepackt und in Anspruch genommen wird.
Wenn dieses "ungeschriebene Gesetz" existiert oder existiert hat, war es auch vor ca. 5 Tagen, als Herr Rorlikson seine erneute Kandidatur bekannt gab, "in Kraft".
Ich hoffe das die s.g. "guten, deutschen Demokraten" die Verbitterung über Ihr Vorgehen verstehen. Gesetze sollte man IMMER und UMGEHEND anwenden, nicht "dann und wann", wen Sie einen in den Kram passen.
Mein verehrter Herr Abrivianius niemand wird Sie jagen, da Sie keine Hexe, sondern viel Mehr ein fehlgeleitete Faschist sind. Solche Leute sollte man im Auge behalten und Ihnen im besten Fall versuchen die Fehler in Ihrer politischen Weltanschaung, in Diskussionen deutlich zu machne.
Bei Ihnen habe ich leider die Befürchtung, ich und Andere könnten mehr Erfolg beim Versuch die Alpen zu Bewegung zu überreden haben, als Ihnen die Fehler in Ihrer Weltanschaung aufzuzeigen.
Hochachtungvoll
H. Schmidt
I always thought of democracy of being able to chose who you support and vote for. I support and vote for Gobba, and since I am Party President, my party by default follows me choice. If for some reason some of my party members are unsatisfied about my choice for President election, they can easily run for Party President themselves and replace me if they deem needed. Now that's democracy.
Is there a law forbidden me from changing my Party's support from Starkad to Gobba? I didn't think so. So at best you can call my move amoral or unethical, but then again the same could be said about Starkad's desperate move to cling on to power.
It's funny that my actions have been said to be the start of the road to tyranny, while the real tyrant is President Starkad Rorlikson who wants to remain in power indefinitely.
Herr Abrivianius,
Iher Polemik ermüdet mich wie eine leiernde Schallplatte. Durch die ständige Widerholung werden Ihr Argumente weder besser noch wahrer.
Auch wenn ich Ihne eine hohes Mass an rhetorischen Fähigkeiten laßen muß.
Hochachtungsvoll
H. Schmidt
Besides, if Starkad really wanted to run, all he had to do was spend 40 Gold, make his own party, and he could still run for President. If everyone that supports him gave him a couple of Gold, he could have easily gathered the gold needed to start a new party, seeing as he had almost 20 hours left to get back in the race.
Dieser Schlag gegen die demokratischen Strukturen unseres Verbündeten ist ein herber Schlag für das japanische Volk und die japanische Regierung. Unsere Unterstützung Deutschlands gegen die schwedische Aggression war auch immer eine Verteidigung der Demokratie, und so erfüllt es uns mit besonderem Schmerz zu sehen, wie eben jene Demokratie mit Füßen getreten wird. Ein schwarzer Tag für Deutschland.
"I always thought of democracy of being able to chose who you support and vote for. I support and vote for Gobba, and since I am Party President, my party by default follows me choice."
Unsurprisingly, a self proclaimed national socialist like yourself needs some private lessons to catch up on what democracy is.
The point here being, nobody ever voted for you.
You INHERITED this post....granted, thats not your fault, but bad gaming physics...but it is YOUR fault, that you ignored a party vote held by BBJ, that was chosing good old Starkad as their presidential candidate.
If my party disagrees with some of my choices while I am Party President, they can chose to replace me when the Party President elections take place. Until then, I will do what I feel is best for my party, and Germany.
did you contact the admins yet whether you can rename the party to eNSDAP or not?
Exzellenter Artikel!
Er entspricht genau meiner Ansicht.
Es ist fraglich, ob meine Loyalität dem neuen Präsidenten gelten wird.
I was involved in the discussion of this law and it was in fact never officially instated. It was more of an unofficial tradition or doctrine if you will that stated that a president should consider passing on the torch. However, a tradition, especially one of an unofficial nature is not binding and therefore starkad could indeed run for president if he wanted.
Also, Habraka, do you really think that Starkad would be wasteful enough to waste 40 gold at a time like this on a new party?
Ich bin zutiefst erschüttert über diesen Gewaltakt gegenüber unserer Demokratie. Ich war nicht immer mit allem einverstanden, was Starkad gesagt oder getan hat, aber dieser widerliche Akt der Selbstinszenierung seitens Habraka toppt doch wirklich alles, was ich bisher von ihm gesehen habe und sollte ein Wecksignal für einige Personen sein. Er hat mal wieder gezeigt, dass er seine eigene Meinung für die einzige hält, die es Wert ist, darauf zu hören. Und wenn jemand ihn kritisiert, versucht er auf peinliche Weise, den Spieß umzudrehen und sich selbst als armes Opfer politischer Verfolgung darzustellen. Natürlich, man könnte ihn abwählen. Aber erst NACH den letzten Wahlen. Ein Witz.
@Makoto: Ich danke dem ejapanischen Volk zutiefst für die bisherige Unterstützung und hoffe, dieser peinliche Vorfall hat nicht zu viel Schaden angerichtet
Anti-Gobba articles like this gave us a swedish spy as president. props to you, herrmueller.
Loki: two things.
1. This is not actually an anti-Gobba article, though it's anti-some-weak-argument-which-Gobba-used . You may want to re-read here.
2. Sure, blame the guy who put it down on ePaper, instead of the guy who made it happen in the first place 😉
Wasn't my intention to blame anyone. But well, you used his name in a negative context, and i'm pretty sure that there were people that did just vote for the "other guy" that is not gobba 😉