Bro War One: The Titanium Paper
Day 845, 16:48
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by Tyler F Durden
Ohai Bros! I am here to talk to you about Titanium! If you read the latest eRep Insider, you will have heard about Diamonds being replaced with Titanium. Titanium will be used to build Helicopters and Tanks - two High Q Weapons in V2.
From the article, "Based on your feedback regarding the pretty rare Titanium, we decided to keep the Iron resource in game, which will provide raw materials for Riffles and Artillery companies. The current diamonds get converted into Titanium, which will be used as raw material for Tanks and Helicopters."
I can hear you scratchin, beginning to ask: "what you gettin at Durden?"
USA needs to be able to Shoryuken!
A strong Brolliance needs a strong USA.
Titanium can make this happen.
However I am not the voice of popular opinion on this matter.
Most want Canada to keep both Titanium regions, which will be Northwest Territories and Nunavut. Others want to rent out one region to the highest bidder - even if that is not USA!
I say that Canada does not NEED two high Titanium regions, but many wants thems anyways! They cannot lose Teh Precioussss.
I'm all up in ur internetz, hoggin' all the Titaniumsss
This attitude, shared by many prominent Canadians is not very 'Bro-like'. We have to start thinking about mutual success for Brolliance members. We should be sharing the wealth, not hoarding it. Besides the obvious - Canada cannot afford to have a wage war for Titanium labour. Land skill is going to be in great need, and wages in this sector will lead the way to economic recovery. The USA must also have this opportunity to create a balanced economy once again and provide for it's own armaments industry if we are to have a healthy Brolliance, able to provide it's citizenry with stable, reliable war opportunities. The Brolliance Economic Council will look to meet an understanding in this discussion.
Share those Titanium nestings I say!
Of course, swapping regions requires our two nations to be at war.
I think we should seize the opportunity to have our first "Bro War".
Bro War One should have a clear set of objectives such as NWT for USA. Maybe Washington and Hawaii for Canada - for strategic purposes. Canada having Washington and Hawaii would provide the Brolliance strategic buffer regions for any attacks coming from SE Pacific / Asia. Admittedly, Hawaii is a stretch. However, it would also put Canada in the position of spearheading any offensives into SE Asia while not having the USA be vulnerable to counter attack. Canada still has open MPPs with Russia. Canada could lead a Bro Backed and gasp - even EDEN endorsed attack on This Region then RW Alaska back to USA so Russia cannot into North America without triggering USA MPPs. Those darn pesky open 1 vs 1 wars, eh?
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North America after Bro War One. Also, other regions can be swapped for
entertainment purposes. New Mexico or Alaska come immediately to mind...
Call it 'Proxy Doctrine'. The USA would be shielded from attack and with joined forces lead expeditionary wars where they are needed without exposing the USA's continental regions.
Even if Canada were to lose the initiative, no counter attack would be able to effect either nation's original regions without the attacker declaring war upon the USA to be able to reach more Canadian regions. We spread out our MPPs so we don't waste gold on redundant alliances.
A few things to consider for Bro War One:
1. No attacking Hospital regions
2. USA Occupies NWT
3. Canada Occupies Washington and Hawaii
4. Initiative is swapped once a week between nations
5. Lotteries for Battle Hero and Resistance Hero Medals
6. Spin off wars to follow, Australia may need a hand soon too...
7. Harmonize Titanium Taxes between Canada & USA.
Something to mull over...
Broloha, eh?
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Tyler, I am in complete agreement with you.
No thanks Durden...some of us own Diamond companies in the NWT and are not keen to see the region just handed over like some cheap bong at an ALOHA party.
If the Broliance wants Titanium then they can buy it from us...nothing wrong with satisfying the supply demand theory...they demand, we supply!
What do you propose for all the owners of Diamond companies in the NWT? Just stick a pillow over their faces until they stop breathing?
This is our chance to be a force on the world economic stage. What we should be doing is not called greed...I call it common sense!
What have YOU got in YOUR pocketses? A precioussss?
The owners can sell their companies to our Bros and use the gold to re-start in whichever region we keep 🙂
I think it's worth renting out one of our regions, but there has to be a lot of consideration put towards the possibility.
Just a minor point, Tyler, but Russia never activated Canada's defensive MPPs. We still have an open 1 vs 1 war with Russia, though.
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Cheers,
AR1ARX
Tem
I hear you on that but your assuming we will get Fair Market Value for our companies...and how fast will those companies be sold?
I am holding a Q3 with 4 open licences...the value of this company on paper is very high. Am I going to find a buyer with some haste who will give me precisely what it is worth? Covering all the Q upgrades and the costs of each licence?
Why wouldn't our BRO buddies just say "Screw you Mason...were going to buy our own Q1 and start up ourselves, we dont need to buy yours"
There is no way to manage this situation because there are no mechanics to support it.
I can see this being an epic fail for current owners and our govt will be to blame if they allow it. Truthfully, if I get turfed on this, it would be cause for me to reconsider not only remaining in eCanada, but in eRep period.
Some mutually beneficial accomodation between BROs would be a great idea. Whether that would be through region swaps, rental or some other mechanism would have to be determined by the involved parties. The citizens of eCanada naturally must make the final call as to what is done with their resources.
I also agree with Tyler, the knock on effect will give Canada a protected side.
Sharing is caring...
Two High Titanium regions = twice as big a bullseye.
No and NEVER EVAH!
Tyler, I am in complete agreement with you. x2
In order to reach Hawaii you would have to go through California though, right?
I'm sure the USA would be willing to buy off all the companies.
Brolliance Today,
Brolliance Tomorrow!
I am in agreement with Mr. Durden
There's a lot here...the medal lotteries, the fun, the region swappy goodness and its benefits for defense. Just swapping over a titanium region isn't the only issue you're bringing up. As for business owners, you'll have access to more workers and a cheap export license if eUS swaps into NWT, you'll lose nothing personally as you'll already have the Canadian license for if/when the swapping is resolved and peace declared.
I'd say I'm not agaisnt helping out the bros, Canada doesnt have the population to efficiently use 2 region of titanium...
with 0% export taxes to the U.S.A. i see no need for the USA to hold one of Canada's original regions.
in fact this may be another reason to kill the grain industry in Canada.
go find the plug and pull it on granny .. lol
Strategically, we want the US, to hold it's own border regions, that way, if they are attacked, their MPPs are activated, if we held Alaska, and Hawaii, if either region is attacked, it doesn't activate a war for the US, it doesn't activate their MPPs, or ours for that matter.
Also, you can't get to Hawaii through Washington, you have to go through California, one of the two US fortress regions. Which would cost hundreds of gold to replace after the swaps.
I'm not opposed to renting NWT to the US, but plans to purchase Canadian companies located there by US interests, or some form of compensation for those owners would need to be worked out before war was ever declared. There is also the high costs to declare war, and the MPPs on both sides that would need to be replaced to consider.
All told, it also isn't really necessary. The US can start companies in Nunavut and NWT as easily as we can. They can send workers here, as they have to Spain, then export it home. They could even save more money, by subsidizing the purchase of US export licenses for companies already set up to export diamonds.
Yes, Canada will see a profit, from either solution, but a land swap, entails massive logistical and diplomatic snags to overcome. I wouldn't support a rental of a region, until a plan is in place to address all of these issues prior to any declaration of war.
Goran Thrax
what eden should really be focused on is depriving the phoenix alliance of the high titanium regions located in eSouth Africa
What we should be concentrating on is what is best for eCanada!, not talking about making wars in which we can only lose.
jeez, listen to Goran it make strategic sense.
Can we not get eCanada on a safer footing before we start trying to progress into aggression?
Would that not make sense?
Red Dragons for Life!
I don't see why buying canadian titanium is a problem.
This idea is worse then the proposal to sell Sskatchewan to Finland
In theory, there is a way to landswap NWT to the US without declaring war against each other, though it would require the kind assistance of Ireland. If the US declares war on Ireland, then allows Ireland to seize the initiative and attack a US region bordering Canada, chain reaction will open a war with Ireland and Canada. Ireland can then carve a path through the northern US to Minnesota, upon which it will cede the initiative to the US, and proceed to invade Saskatchewan and NWT, with the US following suit. An RW to return Saskatchewan to Canada, and the US at their leisure can then removes the Irish from the northern US. If US territories need to be traded to Canada, that can also then be accomplished using Ireland. Land is swapped, no loss of MPP or need to declare war against each other.
Cheers,
AR1ARX
Why even argue over this now? Look at this a few months into V2. To make a deal now would be foolish. I'm sure there will be a lot of new things to consider by then. This would be best for all involved.
@ Tyler - I completely agree with your proposition although I'm not in favour of staying a "war" with the U.S for any extended period of time for any reason whatsoever.
@ Acacia - Although I see your concern..... any smart business person would not be scared of this because; The U.S.A is a way bigger market for them to sell their goods and once their company switches over from being in Canada to the U.S they are automatically given a Canadian export license and then they can easily buy an American one for 5 gold (a bargain). This of course is assuming that nothing changes in V2, which is a stupid assumption... soo I think Ralph Kline hit the nail right on the head
At first I was repulsed by the idea, but by the end of the article I have to say that it's worth considering. Therefor, good article!
Ok, that surfer got my attention.
Give us your region or you are greedy!
You make it sound like you have the choice to keep the 2 regions. If we don't give NWT to the eMericans then we may as well be giving it to Hungary when they take it over.
Region swap makes the most sense and Canada should ask for a Q5 hospital for Nunavut.
ok, let me get this straight...instead of just selling titanium to our allies with no tax and thus getting income from these sales, plus allowing to sell to other allies that are not as close with tax generating even more income, providing jobs for our citizens, higher wages paid, influx of new citizens looking for jobs, all of which can be done simply. we should "rent" our land to another country, where there is no means to simply do this. maybe we can get them to sign a lease and they have to send us a rent check the 1st of every month.
so lets see if i can sum this up? instead of selling the titanium which pardon my ignorance seems easy, we should make a deal that is not really enforceable, let ourselves get invaded, hope our businesses get bought for a fair price and get fair compensation for all this? i realize im still kinda new to the eworld but i am having a hard time finding the logic in this.
voted, should be done as soon as possible, some people in here are apparently thinking about their own pocket again, instead of looking at the benefit of the whole, which is understandable but sad at the same time,
we want a strong BROLLIANCE, and we arent gonna be that on our own
wow, for once I agree with you TFD. looks like 2012 has come early..lol
total agreement. But this would give Pheonix a good reason to attack, wouldn't it? Canada would have to rely on non-USA MPP's to hold our regions, if we're half-way through the "Bro War". This could turn into WWIV.
I don't see that many a flaw in your argument there Tyler, especially since, as Armando put it, having 2 titanium would only make us a bigger target.