An oasis in a desert of ineffective propaganda
Necrosis
First of all, an article by myself which doesn't feature a song reference as a title? Must be serious.
I'm going to begin by making a few points, in a nice, simple, fashion.
Contrary to popular belief, the UK is not run by PEACE. The UK is run by the UK. But, of course, some people elsewhere within the game cannot seem to fathom the fact that the democratically elected individuals of this country voted not only to let Hungary borrow Scotland, but to join PEACE. Allow me to elaborate more on this.
Lets rewind the clock a fair few months. ATLANTIS was in it's death throes, Romania had thrown in the towel at alleged cheating (more on this later). Sweden was about to stomp over Germany. In the midst of all this wargames were afoot; Ireland attacks the USA, activates the USA's MPPs, everyone gets fights.
This wasn't as simple in practise as it is on paper. Due to a fairly huge mistake on the part of the UK's administrations at the time, the UK ended up with trade embargoes with the entirety of ATLANTIS. Not good. How did the UK's leaders at the time react? They begun by threatening to invade Ireland; quite possibly the most inept move I have ever seen in nearly 650 days spent in this game. Mistakes like this lead the world to think of the UK as incompetent, and, to be brutally honest, we were pretty awful back then.
So there we are, a pretty useless country. Behind the scenes, a group of UK citizens are planning the future of the country (read about this here). We publicly announced our wishes to join PEACE when we were elected in a free, fair, and takeover free election.
Over the next month we discussed the issue publicly, giving the public an unprecedented level of involvement and information. It was also, of course, discussed behind closed doors. As a general rule, both sides of the aforementioned door were fairly evenly split at this point.
Enter Scotland. Alright, allow me to explain this. The House of Commons (HoC) of the UK, at the time, voted with a 93% majority to give the go-ahead. Allow me to add something else to this; HoC voted on this as a training war, not as a declaration of joining PEACE. When the articles informing you all that the UK was neutral were released, we technically were. The whole thing could've been handled better in my eyes, but otherwise, it's actually what happened. Complete transparency into the decision making process.
But how did we get to joining PEACE from this? It's really rather simple. The immense whining from North American nations. And the constant rubbish in my media, and so forth. All of that combined actually pushed congress into (finally) making a decision. The elected congress chose this. No manipulation, no takeover.
But hey, what do I know? The Fortis/EDEN propaganda merchants constantly in our media must know more than myself, obviously. Or not, as the case is.
I guess what the point of this article is, is to both debunk some of the rubbish that has perpetuated the media of late, and to dissuade such propaganda from being written. Does this mean I don't want this discussed further? Nope. Discuss as much as you wish. I'm confident that you'll reach the same conclusion I made months ago, and many people are slowly beginning to make. PEACE is/was/will prove to be the right move for the UK
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pertamaxx ?
yeah...i don't think the other PEACE nations like us all that much....or maybe it's just me...i think it's just me
who would want to throw in with turncoat traitors?
This is really incoherent. On the one hand, you have the back-door manipulators whose goal was to push the eUK into PEACE all along. On the other hand, you have what you present as your average population that was split until the backlash against the first deal struck with Hungary. The only real moral I can learn here is that the former played a rather good trick on the latter.
I wouldn't say it's incoherant at all, expecially for an article written at 1 in the morning. You're just not very smart.
I hate the way when anyone says anything against PEACE, it is propaganda. When someone writes an article saying they love PEACE and its the best thing since sliced bread it is "a refreshing break from the propagandists" or other such nonsense.
The pro-PEACE propaganda from the people at the top at times has been excrutiating, especially when we were losing our Canadians regions. Instead of the PM and others with him telling the truth and saying it was a disaster and PEACE didnt care about us as much as we had hoped, all we were given was the line that it was a "good" thing that we lost because our "allies" who were busy helping themselves won.
People disagreeing with you isnt propaganda. You just ran for PM, try to be more political.
>>I hate the way when anyone says anything against PEACE, it is propaganda
I quote myself
>>Discuss as much as you wish.
Read the article, thanks
How very dismissive. I've read it, disagreed with most of it. I was in no way referring to the comments following on from the article before.
I quote yourself
>>An oasis in a desert of ineffective propaganda
Please pay more attention, thanks
Interesting take on things...
However, I do have to agree that the "immense whining from North American nations" did play a large part in the public consciousness. Like I mentioned in the article you linked, I still have a mistrust of a group that formed in order to make this happen. Although, you rightly point out that the elected representatives did vote in favour of the merge with PEACE (was it something like a 72% vote in favour)?
However, we must remember to be constantly questioning this issue. Whilst the anti-PEACE voice is a minority now, it has made some small gains in the month or less that it has been in existence. Now it remains to be seen if the next month will be so kind, or whether the vocal minority will just fade back into obscurity.
For the record, my stance against PEACE has nothing to do with Fortis/EDEN, but more to do with my dislike of superalliances, and the fact I felt we bowed in fear before the Hungarians, rather than retain our honour. For me though, the first point should be of more relevance than the second (as my concept of honour my be different from others).
At least you are seeming to be a bit more open to discussion on this matter. I think that is a positive step for all sides of the discussion.
Reading through the rhetorical fluff:
1) the Scottish people were treated like worthless pawns;
2) the HoC and the UK people were lied to repeated about the true nature of the PEACE agreement;
3) AFTER Scotland was lost to Hungary there was a fear mongering campaign that if we did not yield to PEACE demands the PEACE juggernaut would swallow the UK whole.
The PEACE alliance appears to be collapsing under the weight of its own treachery. A fact I rejoice in and have dedicated my personal wealth to achieving.
OH HEY LOOK MORE NORTH AMERICANS WHO THINK THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THAN THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY INVOLVED
ehhh United Faildom 🙂
I wasn't involved in the decision making, but I can tell you the 2 main reasons why the public chose PEACE.
1) Germany. Sweden/Poland invaded Germany backed by Eastern ATLANTIS, and we felt helpless because we were officially ordered not to fight.The they were rescued by PEACE, which changed a lot about how the UK looked at PEACE, as they had just helped our ally from our supposed 'allies'
2) American whining. You do realise the decision for the Hungarian TW was voted upon BEFORE kumnaa was elected? Crazy huh?
And guess what? We are better under PEACE. If you disagree with that statement, tell me how we would have been better siding with a nation that was openly hostile towards us and regarded us as 'allies on paper'
*before Hassan was elected
I was in the anti-PEACE crowd when this whole thing started, but as I began to see the way PEACE worked and comparing the way USA/former Atlantis and PEACE treat their members, and treated eUK, the more I began to realise that PEACE was the best choice for eUK and its people.
NOT TRUE MALTA! WE WERE BRAINWASHED, PEACE NEVA DID ANYTHING GOOD 4 OUR COUNTRY!!!
where was giving scotland to hungary in hassans manifesto? also, you knew they would use it to invade north america whether you voted for a training war or not - traitors and liars. glad i left - youve made the euk an embarrassment to any real life brit - why dont you all just go somewhere elses and ruin your own countries, and leave the uk alone