All the Irish military units (very important read).
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While we are under occupation, it is very important that all Irish join a military unit (mu). This will help you fight in an organised fashion, have a better idea of the meaning of each battle, get a better salary, improve your damage, learn the game, and above all, enjoy the game more and stay with us.
The following is a list of all the Irish mu's, which should help you make your choice. Thanks to all the military leaders and Irish officials who provided this info, Chance_Harrison, Irasian, Seanan, Lucky Slevin, Ariovistus (I hope I didn't forget to mention someone, pm me if so). Special thanks to Irashian for actually writing at least half of this.
Irish Army (IA)
The official, national army of Ireland, is currently led by Chance Harrison. It was created to stop the fighting between the Irish Defence Force and the Irish Citizen’s army. The Irish army is under the control of the government and the current Minister of Defence is in charge of leading it.
The Irish Army works as a commune and soldiers have to work in Irish Army companies if they want to be supplied.
The IA is in a coalition with the ICA.
The Irish Army is open to all Irish citizens and is closely linked with the Irish Citizen’s Army.
Motto of the Irish Army: Always In The Fight!
Here is the link to the IA application form: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&formkey=dHFvb3ROYVBMSGNJMi1TWlJJeHpXemc6MQ#gid=0
More information: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Irish_Army
Irish Citizen’s Army (ICA)
The current leader of the ICA is Marcus Suridius. They were dissolved at about the same time the Irish Army was created. A couple of weeks after the formation of the IA, some of the command staff of the Irish Army left and reformed the Irish Citizens Army.
The ICA works closely with IA in the defence of Ireland and sometimes shares supplies. The ICA also works in a commune based system to supply its troops meaning soldiers work in ICA companies if they wish to have supplies.
The ICA is in a coalition with the IA.
To get into the ICA, soldiers have to be invited.
Motto of the Irish Citizen’s Army: Ireland unfree shall never be at peace
More information: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Irish_Citizen_Army
Labour’s Army (LA)
Labour’s Army is currently being led by Lucky Slevin.
As Lucky Slevin notes :
"Labour’s Army’s history starts when UK invasion took place in May. ILP members needed a stronger organisation, food and weapons distribution started taking place. After a while stronger organisation was required and obtained by official creation of Labour’s Army, Irish leftist army with a goal of defending Ireland and helping new citizens growth.
With gold donations from Halk Ordusu, our comrades from Turkey and donations from LA members themselves, we set up communes where we work and receive food and weapons. We are active on our IRC channel, became an eFamily. With new comrades coming in (from other parties as well) we are bound to have a great impact on Ireland’s defence and it’s future."
Labour’s Army shares close ties with the political party, the Independent Labour Party, having all of its members in there. Labour’s Army also works in a commune with members working in LA’s companies to supply each other.
Labour’s Army is open to everyone who is not a threat to Ireland.
Motto of the Labour’s Army: Long live free Ireland!
More information: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/labour-039-s-army-public-information-1790547/1/20
Libertad-IRE.
This is a faction of the ex-greek military unit Libertad. Libertad was created to help smaller nations with their survival as bigger nations tend to conquer their smaller rivals for either resource bonuses or just because they can. The current leader of Libertad Ireland is Foxtrot_V.
Libertad is open to anyone who shares its views and follows its proceedures regardless of their real life ethnicity or eRepublik citizenship. Age, political affiliation, and citizenship are all considered by Libertad to be irrelevant to membership.
You can read a presentation of Libertad here : http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/band-of-brothers-a-k-a-libertad--1783906/1/20
More information: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Libertad
HAVOC
It was created by Ariovistus, who notes that :
"HAVOC was made by me just for the kicks, to test the new module. Obviously the unit is not functioning in any great capacity, just a place to hang out atm. This is because there is no added benefit given by the game to participate in MU's. IRC is free, and many sites still find info on soldier preformance, again for free. Until this changes I doubt "HAVOC" will be of any added value to the game."
More information: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/HAVOC
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GOOD ARTICLE.
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Useful info
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Dickface, you forgot GeStapo. ;_;
YOUR COUNTRY NEEDS YOU JOIN THE IA OR ICA NOW! OR I WILL EAT YOUR BABEHS
Lol. I thought you were just kidding around with that.
If you want I can add a description of GeStapo too Chew. Just pm it to me.
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v very good job
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Voted, as a member of IA ICA and LA, I like this.
Are there any MU's that DON"T require their members to become beholden to them by using their production in a minimal wage job? If so, then I support people joining that one. We need an MU that simply organizes the direction of it's forces, without syphoning their production to be distributed as the leaders see fit.
I cannot begin to explain the damage done to our IEP, with so many people already working in communes. We need less communes, not more. Why do communes recruit so aggressively for the military/political module, at the cost of completely %&*@ing the economic module?
Bhane, military units have transferred their companies to countries with bonus. So they produce double than the rest of us Irish businessmen. Which allows them to supply their members a lot better than the market of occupied Ireland ever would.
Every person that works in a commune, pulls that much more currency out of a circulating system. There are many dominos that follow that loss, and most of them have detrimental effects on the economy of any country. A country can handle a few communes, depending on it's population size. If all active eIrish would join communes, our currency would be screwed, regardless of eIreland being occupied, or not.
This may be true or false, but it's only theory. The reality atm is that a worker in an Irish company produces 10 tanks, while a worker in a commune transferred in Spain produces 20 tanks.
It's not theory, it's fact, and you're not listening to what I'm saying.
I'm not talking at all about MU's abandoning eIreland to go to enemy countries for the resource bonuses. I could care less about betrayal for the sake of productivity.
Arguing doesn't matter, since your ears are closed. It's not worth the time to explain what I'm actually referring to. Find a basic economic course and take it. Not too basic, this is beyond econ 101. But maybe econ 103 or 104 will teach you what you need to know.
This is not an rl economy. This is a game with game mechanics.
An Irish in a military unit produces double, takes double and does double damage. And this is how you free Ireland, with damage.
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You still have no idea what I'm talking about, Riggy. I'm not talking about production bonuses, at all.
You are not talking about damage either though. And it's damage you should be thinking about. Change your perspective and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Riggy i was going to write an article about it when I had time . I agree it is better for everybody to be in a MU and it is more efficient to supply people that way because we can produce more damage which is what is needed BUT it also destroys our economy .
There are many people without a MU so these people should be aloud join a public MU that receives its orders from The IA possibly sure even call it the Economic IA if you want because they can buy off our markets and work for our companies so our economy doesnt die
We can argue a lot about communes. I won't hide that I totally disagree with the neo-liberal dogma about a free market that magically fixes everything. That's crap in rl and it's crap in the game too. I can't believe that there are still Irish neo-liberals, you have the IMF too! The collapse of your "wonder" economy should have taught you sth. People before profits damnit! But we don't need to have this discussion atm.
What destroys our economy is the British occupation. If we want our economy back, we need to free Ireland. There is no other way. And if we want to free Ireland, we need damage.
If there are enough die hard cappies that can't see that, sure, let's provide a public mu for them. But that's a waste in reality.
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Well im not talking about rl . In rl we are both screwed at the moment .
In the game yes I agree with the commune being the best way BUT it also destroys the economy . Sure Riggy im in a commune and im part of the IA . But I still can see its not helping . If everybody was in a commune and not working for iep then why bother getting our regions back ? We have our amazing productivity abroad and if we take the regions back we arnt going to want to use our low region productivity . We would all have to sell our products we personally create abroad or consume them ourselves . Theres a fine line between to much and to little .
Im all for Communes but we do need an economy
I NEVER said a free market fixes everything!
I am an active socialist. I give tanks to my employees and to various eIrish defense groups all the time. But there still needs to be an economy to stand on, or social benefit programs won't work. My companies run at a zero-profit level because I give back to the employees and the community. Don't label me as some die hard capitalist or "neo-liberal" whatever, you have no idea.
When it comes to the economy, every extreme is WRONG!!! That goes for pure capitalists, AND pure communists.
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Well I kinda agree with both of you 😛.
Bhane, you /are/ a commune then. LOL.
I can /so/ see the need to support our economy. Hey, I too have a business, I paid for it, and atm I'm running at 0 profit for supporting two newbs.
But we miss two ingredients for a sustainable economy atm: a free country and a larger population. A free country for the bonus, and a large population so that there are enough semi-active people working in companies and buying in the market. Really active people will always bypass the market through communes, exchanging goods, buying abroad etc. It's better for them, so it's also better for Ireland, so they'll keep doing it.
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I'm not a commune. I pay more than the market price of wages. I do not distribute goods in lieu of fair wages. I simply give out bonus tanks as I can afford to. There is no expectation of me distributing goods like a commune, it's just a bonus thing I do when i can afford it. Communes pay no real wage, in exchange for a standardized distribution system. If you pay your people a fair wage, and give them goods when you can, then you're a socialist, not a communist.
Right now, a lot of my employees can't work, because there is no IEP flowing through the economy.
We need to buy Irish goods with IEP
... so wages can be paid in IEP
... so those employees can buy more goods with IEP
... so more wages can be paid in IEP
... so more employees can buy more goods with IEP
... all the while taxes on transactions can be collected to fund RWs, and whatnot.
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Anyway, let's leave the commune/collective/communist/socialist and what not thing aside. It's not a standardised thing anyway. I used to run communes paying a wage equal to the value of the worker's production, which answers your concerns. So...
The thing is that we have to get stronger and free Ireland. And the military units are a powerful tool in this struggle. Their product is /stronger Irish/. IEP for rws is something we can get easily using other means, don't worry about that.
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Ye people should join a MU but maybe one should be made for the general public anyway
Agreed, D-G.
It would be nice to see a MU for self-supplied soldiers of eIreland.
Good job.
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Interesting comments. Like to point out though, Bhane, there has been a dramatic shift in public opinion; During the days of the IDF, where IEP was supplies and no one had to work in companies, it was Economy > Military - not surprising given those in power involved in the economy.
After the first wiped, it became Military > Economy. Commune workers can access more food and weapons (therefore more damage) than the market and private sector wage can. (Either by traditional commune system or EA's new commune system).
Hope that explains your question "Why do communes recruit so aggressively for the military/political module, at the cost of completely %&*@ing the economic module?"
Simple answer: Public opinion values military over the economy.
Solution: Communes pay higher wages.
Problem: Non-state militias would not likely be able to afford increasing wages without downgrading damage potential.
The Irish Army could increase wages, but then the state would need to pay for those wages. I already pay the wages of my troops out of my own pocket (and its not 0.01 IEP), increasing by 1 IEP would not be easy for me.
Feel free to ask the government! : P
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I think both can be achievable Seanan . Its just gona take time to figure it all out with the main problem being changes to the system : (
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"The Irish Army could increase wages, but then the state would need to pay for those wages."
NO!
The commune would have to sell a few goods on the market to pay for those wages... not be funded by the taxes collected from people participating in the economy.
+1 Bhane.
You shouldn't be wasting taxes on that. If you have questions about how to organise an effective military unit based on the system of communes, ask Libertad about it.
We know how to run it effectively, but the point I'm making, why would the communes increase wages? It means less food/weapons is available for the commune workers, as more is sold. There is no incentive. Not when priority is damage, and not the economy.
Perceptive here: Military > Economy.
During the times of the IDF, tax money was all which went into the military - Communes have reduced that, but now the economy has shrunk. State increasing wages would be reverting back to those times, and the Army would again act as the pump into it.
But my point is, military communes only have one goal: Damage. There is no benefit in comprising weapons/food production to the commune in order to benefit the economy. They would be op'ing to pay more tax and gain less produce.
Bhane join the IA as a self supplied, you dont need to work in a commune.
Sure you supply the Irish soldiers plenty so I wouldn't worry about it.