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To call Eli Crownover the "Originator" of the new Tax plan is ludicrous. He was the Congressional Whip. It was his JOB to "Originate" bills.

The "Originator" of the new Tax Plan is a committee.

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Lol, perpetrators of this tax theft are surely trembling!

You still have that "effect on prices: none" lie on your gif. The VAT reduction hasn't been passed yet.

Oh but why do I care, twist the truth as it suits you. It's your job as a selfish manipulator.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/let-them-eat-cake1-1889594/1/20

Gnilraps: Denying Eli Crownover was the "originator" is absurd, as she obviously was.

She is an EC member, thus one of the architects of this plan, as well as one of the main proponents on the forums. She was the first trying to 'explain' the proposal - contradicting her own words in the congressional proceedings. She's not simply a bobble head, she is undoubtedly a key figure in disarming the eUS.

http://eusaforums.com/forum/index.php/topic,12639.0.html

Now the main perpetrator of this whole delusional tax robbery is indeed Kemal Ergenekon, the Secretary of Treasury who evades his own taxes by selling on the black market, posing as an economic expert, and failing to prove his "models" with a single line of data (although he pompously had claimed he could). He's stuck-up enough to claim he has some right to tell YOU, that "you're doing it wrong", and if you don't evade taxes, you're "lazy" and "inactive".

But we cannot vote him out. Guess what? He's not elected by anyone. He simply sucked up his way to be 3x Secretary and Treasury.

You truly are a dense individual.

How have I ever contradicted myself?

Also, I wish you the best of luck getting me voted out. It'll be a tough fight, let me assure you. As of right now I have a grand total of 0 votes. I also sent out 0 private messages. I also shouted 0 times about me 'running' again. You have NO chance of defeating me! MWAHAHAHAHA I guess you didn't see where on the Public Congress forum yesterday I started a thread where I said I wasn't running this term. Good job with the fact checking.

You're starting a horrible trend here of making emotional appeals to a select few without checking your facts. But on that note, keep up the good work. It's refreshing to see that someone who shouts so loudly about his opinion only gets a couple dozen votes per article. Guess we know where the people's opinion really is.

I also appreciate you continuing to call me a female. I guess the name Eli didn't give it away that I'm a guy, but you know, it is what it is.

From the sounds of it, I'm guessing you're either 40 and living in your mom's basement who is completely pissed at the world because it's not a fair place to live, or a rather intelligent 15 year old who has done an excellent job convincing some of us that you're for real with these articles.

Keep up the amazingly awesome articles!

"As of right now I have a grand total of 0 votes (...) I guess you didn't see where on the Public Congress forum yesterday I started a thread where I said I wasn't running this term."

False, you had and have a total of 5 votes, and at the time of publishing this article yo were leading the polls with that.

"You're starting a horrible trend here of making emotional appeals to a select few without checking your facts."

I'm starting the "horrible trend" of voters demanding representation, and opening public discussion based on actual data and clearly explained consequences - about a plan affecting us all and crafted behind our blacks by a select group of unelected governement officials. This is, by definition is called democracy.

TERRBL POPULISM!

"I also appreciate you continuing to call me a female."

Sorry, a misunderstanding, seen you referred to as a she, I will of course refer to you as a he from now on.

"From the sounds of it, I'm guessing you're either 40 and living in your mom's basement who is completely pissed at the world because it's not a fair place to live, or a rather intelligent 15 year old who has done an excellent job convincing some of us that you're for real with these articles."

From the sounds of it, you are pretty much pissed at me taking your completely delusional plan under scrutiny, and even dared to call for voters to resist it.

The above response of yours is clearly nothing else but a lame attempt to insult me with some completely baseless assumptions of my real life persona. Which is a pathetically low-grade substitute for an argument. The fact that both you and Kemal resorted to this clearly signals the weakness of your reasoning.

lol

lol you know your getting to them when they are reduced to base insults.

"who evades his own taxes"

I paid 6000 * 3 = 18000 USD taxes the other day.

"failing to prove his "models" with a single line of data "

I don't need data when I have algebraic expressions. I challenged you to sit down with me for a brief discussion, since I don't want to model the whole thing and compute it; just to prove a point while you will press over a single assumption and continue with your deliberate misleading.

Kemal, do you deny you're evading taxes?

"I challenged you to sit down with me for a brief discussion"

First you promised me a 'wall of text' in PMs. Nothing came.
Then, well, let's actually quote what happened then:

Kemal: "I can go into the algebra and more, and prove you wrong soundly."

SHM: "I can't wait to see. For a change, I wo(u)ld also like to see some actual eRep figures too, as you seem reluctant to use those nasty numbers 'half-hearted intro-readers' (u)se to back up their arguments."

Kemal: "I won't spend 2 weeks just to get a stupid disagreement with one of my assumptions or modeling choices."

And then: "Stranger Here Myself, you know what? I am tired of discussing with you. I have spent the better portion of my day to argue with someone who lacks the courage to take the arguments into the data, and to model it."

And then: "And by the way, I can't do econometrics without sufficient data. If you have it, share it."

So, pleeeease, gtfo with that bs.

Keep them out of Congress:

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/gentlemen-pick-your-congressmen--1889256/1/20

Think BEFORE you vote!!!

What BS? You chickened out. The offer still stands.

Ah and show me your 'virtal econometrics' analyses (the nonexistent ones)

Well, at least his total about my run in Mississippi is outdated lolz.

It's nice to see a citizen put in this much effort into the game, I'm glad the tax issue stirred him up and other players who are new. People getting involved is a good thing. 🙂

I would love to have Kemal and Stranger in a moderated debate where the issues are raised, argued and a Q&A