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Really nice treaty we made.

Thanks for working all day on it!

Great job.

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Great work! o7

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I say.

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coolbeans 🙂

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this is good. haha

Uh, okey...
And you didn't even think of talking to the congress about this ?

There was no time, I used my better judgement and got us the best deal possible today or we were to be wiped. I think you would agree that a region and peace with the UK along with Congress is better than being wiped by Poland with no regions and no Congress.

No, to be honest I dont agree with that. I do not approve of any treaty with a long time enemy. I would rather be wiped that let an enemy think they can do whatever they want and that smaller countries just have to follow.

Well it was agreed upon by the government and consulted with the government and with Asgard. Asgard watched over the process and made sure the treaty was fair. If we didn't we risked a long term wipe by Poland.

I still do not agree with it, the rules for eNorway are pretty clear on stuff like this. So I'm sorry to see that you did this, to be honest 😞

Well you are not apart of the current government which is why you cannot see the government discussion thread. It was discussed and consulted with the government and Congress. Everyone seems to be happy that I have secured Congress and a region rather than having a long term wipe by Poland. Im sorry to see you would like to see us wiped.

So unimportant stuff gets discussed on the forum like everything should be, but not the stuff that determines the near future of eNorway... That makes sense.

You sound ridiculous, if I walked out of that meeting without a deal than we would be wiped premaritally, the Netherlands just returned recently after 8 months of being wiped by Poland. We are doing a region swap that is all.

If you wish to go to war with Poland and get us wiped for the next 8 months that is your prerogative, please get elected and wipe us then. Im done here.

Great work, Mr. President! I think it's always worth it to explore new avenues. A neutral stance from Poland will let us concentrate on fighting the Baltic countries alongside our Asgard brethren.

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This is like Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact but eNorway isn´t the USSR and ePoland and eUK plays in the warm of their houses, not in the cold winter.
And I agree with taulen when said " I would rather be wiped that let an enemy think they can do whatever they want and that smaller countries just have to follow". I think that we chosen the wrong allies. Perhaps we can analyze the ePortugal case against espain. Portuguese wanted to make a deal with the spaniards and, as always, eSpain, didn´t met with the agreed. But ePortugal is still fighting with spaniards with the help of people all around the eRepublik, because they had PRINCIPLES. Have we still any principles?. I don´t know

We are merely swapping regions...

Great deal !. ePoland attacked Sweden an hour ago. And now?. What would be our principles? Would we defend Sweden as an Asgard ally or simply let Poland (who also declared NE to Sweden) to wipe swedish people?. Very smart, I think...

Sweden also got a deal with Poland. 🙂

Sweden signed their own treaty with Poland. They are swapping regions as well.

Where can i read the treaty?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1agetDL6EyUDN9dJLwxIWQldeR03VCUDe7BQAaUsW5o8/edit

By releasing this you risk everything taulen, I agreed the treaty would be available for the government and Congress and would have gladly sent the treaty privately to people who requested it. There are details concerning the future of Poland in their that they did not want released. If we find ourselves the next country to be occupied for 8 months, you know who to thank.

Are there a signed treaty? I would really like to read it.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1agetDL6EyUDN9dJLwxIWQldeR03VCUDe7BQAaUsW5o8/edit

By releasing this you risk everything taulen, I agreed the treaty would be available for the government and Congress and would have gladly sent the treaty privately to people who requested it. There are details concerning the future of Poland in their that they did not want released. If we find ourselves the next country to be occupied for 8 months, you know who to thank.

Good job.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/farvel-lauarar-hallo-lakkar--2344811/1/20

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Treaty : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1agetDL6EyUDN9dJLwxIWQldeR03VCUDe7BQAaUsW5o8/edit

taulen that cannot be released for security reasons.

Polands claims are ridiculous. They no longer have the clout to be making these outrageous demands. If Poland never retake Western Europe we are left with no other option but to fight for them to reclaim our own territory. Chances are they won't retake Western Europe considering the new rules. We'd be just as well off if they wiped us for a while, they couldn't hold us indefinitely. For what its worth, in the long run we should be making treaties with friendlier nations than eUK and ePoland

Sethesin, the determination only lasts 12 days before it resets, than it will take about 3-4 months for a small country like us to have enough determination to successfully RW a region back.

Even with less than a sufficient amount of allies, holding one territory is achievable. My argument is that eNorway should be working with other small nations to free herself, not ePoland.

Not really, determination resets after 12 days. For example, if we were wiped by Poland for say 3-4 months we would easily have enough determination to free ourselves. However after 12 days of being free our determination goes back to 0 making way for them to easily invade again and hold us for the next 3-4 months. What we need is a new world alliance to counter TWO.

And it wasnt about us choosing to make it with them, we were told they were going to wipe us. It was up to us if we wanted to secure a region out of it or just be wiped.

What about making treaties with our friends?

And what and why would we need to make a treaty with our friends with. Please explain.