[KT89] Disillusioned and Disenfranchised: Part 3 The Wrong Role Play
Kilgore Trout 89
I would like to thank everyone who has been reading and voicing support for this series. Many of you have already provided me with some new insight to bring into the series and I am glad to see that some discussion has cropped up around this issues I’ve been raising. Please be sure to read the whole series and provide feedback.
Part 1: The Financial Juggernaut
Part 2: The Brand Name Zombie Swarm
The last week has been interesting as I’ve been preparing to write this article. Many of you have probably noticed that the media has exploded with articles about role playing which leaves me with two points to consider. First, it will be difficult to discuss this topic without repeating what others have said. More importantly though, role play is clearly an issue that many people are concerned about right now. I find it interesting that the term “role-play” has become a pejorative in eCanada and many people are rallying against the role play institutions that create our community. I will be the first to agree that in many cases, role play gets in the way of progress, drags things out longer than they need to be and turns everything into sensationalism. On the other hand, without it, out parties would be even more ineffective than they already are, our militaries would be nearly useless and quite frankly, there would be almost no meaningful interactions. So, join me as I explore the differences between right and wrong role play.
We all know the problems with useless role play. Just take a look at the kangaroo court on the eCan forums right now. More than once, we’ve had cases sit there for months that everyone already knows the outcome of. Those who play at enforcing laws and those who play at defending themselves spend weeks on end pretending we’re all in a never ending episode of night court and issues that could be addressed in a matter of hours drag on for months at a time. I remember a case where we spent two weeks “interpreting the law” to determine if it was actually against the law to steal from the government or not. The overly eloquent repository of legislated restrictions presupposed that it was unlawful for an individual to remove assets being in game organizations, companies or monetary in nature that belonged to the government of eCanada which is defined by the Constitution of eCanada as blah, blah, blah. Realistically, who cares? In trying to role play that we are a srz bzns country, we’ve got endless lines of role play laws that could be summed up in a simple “Don’t steal”. What’s more, the most we can do by ways of punishment is a forum and irc ban (assuming the criminal doesn’t start a new account) and publishing articles about their guilt. That can be done in all of ten minutes and we would avoid months of arguing over the same insignificant issues.
Now I don’t think that all role play is useless and I’m going to use our armies as the prime example. The CAF and TCO both require role play to work. When Bruck’s Canucks started, the thought process was “Shoot, Hungary owns all of Canada. Okay, I’ll be the general, you be my Lieutenant and everyone else is a Private. Follow orders and let’s get our country back!” Not only is this role play, but it worked. The CAF is exactly the same, there’s a chain of command where people put in the time and effort to get promoted and then sit around in the command room and decide how we can best benefit our country and our allies. These groups are open to everyone to join and everyone gets a chance to try to make a difference. So long as the group remains true to the goal of making things better and is able to avoid self aggrandizement, this role play is ideal. Once a group strays from the goal of improving the community and instead makes their goal sensationalism or trolling, the role play benefits are lost. In theory, the same goes for parties, but that’s a whole can of worms I won’t fit into my maximum word limit.
So then how do we avoid bad role play and how do we figure out what is good? Simple and the same message as always, stop and think before you act. Are you participating in something outside of the basic eRepublik gameplay such as a forum discussion? Chances are, you’re role playing. Is what you are talking about going to make things better or worse for other people? Are you arbitrarily excluding people? Is what you’re doing going to promote or impede progress? How will what you are doing impact the country? These are the questions you need to consider. If you put on your professor hat and start teaching new citizens how to play, that’s good role play. If you put on your soldier hat and help lead the country into battle, that’s good role play. If you put on your congress hat and find a new way to reduce political division, that’s good role play. That’s what we need.
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Comments
F-f-f-FIRST!
First is the worst
Second is the best
Third is the winner of a hairy chest.
I also have a hairy chest. Seriously, my manager told me to stop bringing my cat to work!
4th
They use their silly rules to keep the people down man.
@ "Just take a look at the kangaroo court on the eCan forums right now. More than once, we’ve had cases sit there for months that everyone already knows the outcome of"
Trust me, I know. It's stupid. Tribal council is the way to go
Saltydog, the tribe has spoken. You are the first person voed of Survivor:eCanada
yeah...I've been saying it's a kangaroo court and a bloody joke for the longest time now. It's high time to abolish the damn thing.
If the courts are a joke, that makes salty the main attraction.
That's cute that you think I'm attractive Octorbian 😃
OF I think you meant punchline.
Pimp: you are the one who dragged things out! You stole stuff. Took us about two minutes to figure that out. It only gets drawn out if you aren't man enough to say "oops, okay, i'll give it back".
Free TemujinBC
@mellors. Stop being so dense. I didn't steal anything. Learn the proper rules. you can find them in the wiki. cheers
Pimp: and this is precisely how you dragged it out. "no i didn't" - well "you're dense" "your retards etc".
BTW Kilgore: it took the Court a HALF DAY to decide that stealing was stealing. It took us significantly longer to give Pimp every conceivable opportunity to say "alright, tell ya what, i'll give it back". Six months later he still hasn't.
So maybe the lesson is: should we give players "every conceivable opportunity to avoid a forum ban?" - Tribal council idea has some attractions. It could be done right now BTW.
Free TemujinBC
A non-adversarial system of justice would be better suited for this game.
AND PIMP DIDN'T STEAL ANYTHING!
TemujinBC has gone to the dark side, lock him up!
mellors, you are looking in the wrong place and missing the actual point. As I have said, the game already has the rules and it is played on this site. Making up "rules" in an off site forums in a fake society that does not exist does not change things just because you say it does. What you are now doing is making false accusations, and since this article does not mention me, you are off topic, and thus trolling. Cease and desist. Everyone report mellors for false accusations and trolling. thanks
So PimpDollaz is the one who's been reporting everyone? I have no proof of this, but I'm going to accuse him anyways! Quick, someone take me to court! 😛
Trololololo
That's 3 out of 4 articles Kilgore - Prove me wrong man, prove me wrong!!
(Although this one was a little light in the loafers in terms of subject and content, but I'll let it pass)
The barrister trout is my favorite ... I think. They all made me lol. Good article - enjoyed it.
Isn't salty the high poombah of the court? If he thinks it's troubled, I think we'd better listen.
he's the high poo-something.
Good Article
great article Kilgore
First, D&D is awesome! (3.5 edition, not 4th edition)
I also fully agree regarding types of roleplay. I personally have been in just about every branch of government, the CAF, etc. I've seen good and bad roleplay in each area of eCanadian life. Even the Court has a great deal to add to our society, most people forget it's the Court that is the last check on the powers of Congress and the Executive. Yet the Court is rarely used in that fashion, 90% of it's time is spent dealing "he stole my manwich!" or "He fawt for r enimies!" arguments and naturally that boils down to personalities and trolling. Several people who have posted comments here, are among those who repeatedly troll the court. As a former Justice I know, it's maddening.
Lets face it, people do cruel things to one another, expecting the court to settle it all amicably is beyond the scope of RL courts, let alone the courts we build for ourselves. Yet in just about every case, its clear cut. However like a real criminal, the accused doesn't wish to accept responsibility for what was done and make amends. Be it accepting appropriated funds or stealing orgs and their contents, our Court can't force those individuals to return the property and/or money because of the ingame Admins policies on organizations. The biggest issue seems to be expecting our Court to be able to do more than it's mandate. If you steal, our Court can't force you to return the money, but be prepared for the less tangible consequences of your acts such as loss of respect and general vilification by the general public. Both of which are perfectly legal by the ingame rules.
Just some of my thoughts on the matter.
Goran Thrax
Kilgore, your awesome 😃
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