[Glove] Terra exploded, Lets go the Moon
GloveisLove
Dear Journal,
First I would like to note that today I received another Media Mogul award, it feels good to know I’m back.
It's been a long time.
Second, I would like to address that yes, Brazil, the heart of Terra, has left the alliance, and it is a devastating blow to the alliance. Although President Israel Stevens claims the alliance is not dead, I declare that it is. Let me explain why it is dead and why it is best to leave the alliance officially in general.
But first some history.
St Krems led the charge in creating a new alliance, combining ex-members of Phoenix with USA and other nations. He dubbed the alliance as an alternative to Eden and NWO, making it an “anti-euro” alliance. However years later he would explain that his motivation was to ultimately make the alliance in allegiance to EDEN, so he basically deceived us and the world. The alliance lost many members and gained many, many from Europe itself, something the public wanted to avoid when the alliance was introduced.
Terra’s real test was its members showing loyalty to one another. This was a great concern of mine when I was president the first time, we had just ended our war with Russia not long before but I wanted to show them I was serious about being allies, so I devoted a great amount of time ensuring we showed up on their battlefields. The first real Terra operation was when we went to war with Poland, I attacked their colonies in Mexico and fell short of removing them completely, but ultimately with Terra support we did remove them a month later. Then the great war began, I pushed the button on Spain and all hell broke loose. Terra suffered heavy losses but in the end we recovered and eventually dominated the world with Eden.
But in those times that Terra suffered heavily, is the time in which I noticed the alliance has major faults.
Terra gave up on eUSA when we needed them most.
During my second presidency, we were invaded by the strongest nations in the game, Poland, Spain, Serbia, Hungary, Indonesia, and all of ONE supporting them.
Initially we received strong support from our closest allies, like Croatia, Brazil, China, etc, but it was not enough to overcome the brute force of ONE. Remember, during this time, all of Eden was wiped and most of Terra was as well, USA and China were the last strongholds.
I made my case to Terra HQ, pleading with them to send support to us so that maybe we could close some borders and hopefully reverse the tides.
Terra HQ gave USA support for two solid days. During these two days we saw lots of momentum for us, and we had a glimmer of hope. Then Terra HQ decided that since all of Terra was wiped that it was selfish of us to ask for help, so they declared our situation unwinnable.
We lost the support of our alliance when we were in the process of being wiped for the first time ever.
When I broke this news to America’s National Security Council, they too lost hope. They too, declared the war "unwinnable."
America’s National Security Council gave up on America.
Frustrated that my own alliance gave up on us, and our own armed forces, I spoke with anyone who still thought we had a fighting chance. The “JCS” forces were the only commited force left for America. They fought till the very end, when our alliance and armed forces refused to because the situation was “unwinnable.”
This is the sad story behind America’s first wipe.
Now that is not the only reason why I think Terra is dead, there are many more.
The Argentine-Chile Crisis
Let me start off by saying I love Argentina and I have some good friends in Chile as well. Months ago Argentina wanted Chile in Terra, so Terra overwhelmingly voted for its membership approval. Eventually Argentina left, then they turned on each other, both accusing each other of terrible things and insulting each other horribly in the media. Terra HQ was given the task of deciding what to do.
Terra did nothing.
Terra hoped that by ignoring the problem it would go away or fix itself.
By doing nothing Terra forced one of the two nations to quit or betray us. Chile signed MPPs with ONE and we lost Chile. Regardless of what you think of Chile, I still think this is a good scenario in where it is clear Terra failed to take a stand. Had Terra provided moderation or at least taken a definite stance, the situation could have been avoided or possibly even defused.
Brazil
Brazil left Terra, I explained why in a previous article. Brazil was one of the founding members of Terra, a nation I am proud to associate with, and it is unacceptable that we let Terra HQ treat one of the most loyal and strongest Terra members in such a demeaning manner.
Without Brazil, Terra is nothing but a shadow of itself. You can say Terra is alive and rising all you want, but it is not, no matter how badly you want to lie to yourself.
Leave Terra, lets go to the Moon
Eden-Terra (Teden)
Terra is dangerously connected to Eden. They watch the day, we dominate the night. That has always been the motto. But we are too connected, with us being on the weaker end. It is no secret that Eden has more raw firepower than Terra does, and when combined we rival ONE. However, we now are obligated to follow Eden’s every command if we hope to win some battle, or hope that they are keeping ONE busy in the Balkans so that we can win battles. This is not a healthy relationship, as it gives Eden the idea that they can do whatever they want to us.
Such has been the case with the Romanian Ptoers in Canada and Brazil. Romania declared they have no official connection no them, although some are even ex-Romanian government officials.
Such was also the case when Eden fought against Argentina because they supported Turkey.
I am under the impression that Eden HQ would sell us if it meant they could benefit themselves. This article is a good example.
“So while it is a good thing that now Bulgaria has a president willing to put an end to the stupid ping-pong with Turkey, what Bulgaria really needs is a president who can bring her both stable colonies in Russia and Iran and a prominent position inside her own alliance, by negotiating an excellent deal for Chile and South Korea.”
Tl;dr: Make peace and you can have full resources, just don’t fight Eden, go fight somewhere else. Ie: Terra or neutral nations. Lovely diplomacy, isn’t it?
And its not just Eden HQ or Terra HQ, we are to blame too for Terra’s failures.
I wasn’t around these last several months but I can only imagine what Brazil must have felt if these are responses our leaders were giving them.
Or this:
Now all national leaders have their slip-ups, I’ve had my fair share, but foreign affairs is when you do NOT want to mess up. This was not a time to afford these kind of statements. It shows how naive our leaders are. They are suppose to be leaders and set a good image of America. Oblige not being elected had nothing to do with the situation, the way our elected officials and HQ treated Brazil did.
In summary,
I am not advocating joining ONE, I am not advocating betraying Eden nor Terra.
But I am advocating supporting those who support us. It does not make sense to fight everyday for a nation that never will reciprocate that help.
I am advocating leaving a failed alliance, so that we may pursue a path that will benefit us all, so that we may have sovereignty and enjoy the eWorld to its fullest.
I am not saying the path will be stable nor easy, but I am saying it will change the eWorld, and will help us be alive again, with nations who truly care about us.
We have been without an alliance before, it is not the end of the world, it only will show us who is really our friend and who just wants our damage.
Signed,
GloveisLove
Comments
Pertamax
Basically you're saying to form a new alliance with the true allies : 3
Lovin' the Cake, yet St. Krems + going to the Moon + new Alliances bring this oldie to mind, too (perhaps time to dust off ideas left behind?):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isS_H0ZzMG0
Tbh I find it funny how all nations from American continent are "bored" with European wars (ie. Balkan wars) but you make alliance that is based to support your European allies.
If you want wars outside Europe then make some like start war with some of your neighbors in America or Asia.... To me nations across American continent will always get bored and eventually get unhappy because lack of things to do expect supporting their allies....
lol
And about Brazil... If they don't go to EDEN they will probably look to make some other alliance to make things more interesting. I just hope they just don't remake TERRA but with them in HQ....
Kind of glad this is happening, the global alliance structure needs some shaking up
good article, mate
You've made some decent points, but you're wrong about EDEN-Terra connection.
EDEN and Terra were always equal and always equally supporting each other, because it's the only way for both of us to survive and that connection worked perfectly and I don't see any rational reason why would that change (unless you're promoting betrayal of your current allies)...
We have been without an alliance before, it is not the end of the world, it only will show us who is really our friend and who just wants our damage.
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not only it's not the end of the world but i'd say it's 100 times better than actually being in an alliance haha. if i hear one more time the words "alliance summit" i wanna vomit. x D
The best think is to create a new alliance!!
Poland, USA; Brazil, Spain and China.
With out balcan countries
pre much sums it up
"EDEN and Terra were always equal and always equally supporting each other, because it's the only way for both of us to survive and that connection worked perfectly and I don't see any rational reason why would that change (unless you're promoting betrayal of your current allies)..."
radens, pls
In every single conflict there has been between TERRA and EDEN, TERRA has always swallowed. See Turkey - Greece, UK - Ireland, Japan - China, Chile - Arg, BR - Romania, and so on...
Signed,
oç.
Everybody knows that Brazil left the alliance for selfish reasons and more or less the primary reason of the past crisis inside TERRA was the Chilean affair made by vigoncalves and Oblige, the guy supported by Brazil itself in the last HQ election. TERRA will work much better now without Brazil. So how you can support the actions of the same people who with their actions were near to destroy the alliance?
This article is totally incoherent.
"But I am advocating supporting those who support us. It does not make sense to fight everyday for a nation that never will reciprocate that help."
So France and Germany don't help us?
They run distribution for us all the time. They fight hard.
my dear Glove
i was there 😃
USA was wiped because it had no money, no money to tank, idk who to blame .. oh wait i do
the guy who wasted USA's money, YOU!
and Chile was kicked out because Oblige preferred Argentina over Chile (Yeah Oblige screwed up pretty bad on that), and he shouldn't have hard the power to decide such a thing ,, but he did
and Brazil situation, well u said it in ur previous article
it had nothing to do with that HQ thing, France was the main reason for it :/
We lost the invasion because you blew the treasury early on in the war on battles that were not worth the money you dumped. Defending against invasion is simply a numbers (both player and monetary) game. Other nations save up to invade us because we are a difficult target. It's about making that money we've saved outlast what they've saved.
There were a number of other factors as well like a young national army and an old one that wanted nothing to do with us. Invasion is no easy task.
No, we lost the invasion because we were vastly outnumbered and outgunned while being invaded on multiple fronts AND trying to support our allies who were similarly challenged. Not every war has a route to victory for us in eRep, just because we don't "lose" in real life. Glove's little history lesson here is conveniently revisionist on the time of our wipe. If he wants to argue about it, I've got thousands of pages of logs from every secured channel in the United States for the last two years.
We did the best we could with the money and people and organizations we had; a huge economic change and the nerfed value of tanking didn't help us financially, but there was no way we could've tanked our way out of that wipe (trust me, I spent a *lot* of money trying). Glove was the president; we never stopped fighting to protect our territory and delay a wipe that none of us wanted as a legacy, but we also made a commitment to our allies to return the support that they had shown us.
And since Glove mentions the undying support of the JCS at this point... This was the time when the JCS leadership virtually refused to talk to anyone in the government, when Brad would disappear for days with no word to anyone or reply to text messages, and when the largest branches of the JCS moved to Romania on a "previous engagement" and left behind the Training Corps and the National Guard to "never give up" against the Spanish invasion.
Having said all that tl;dr crap, I agree with Glove that personal relationships matter in diplomacy. Obviously relationships broke down between American and Brasilian leaders and are now far below their high point of a year ago. It will take a lot of work to build them back up again, and some alliance realignment is probably in the near future, but it would be a mistake to break other commitments to our Terra allies by abandoning that alliance now.
"The “JCS” forces were the only commited force left for America. They fought till the very end, when our alliance and armed forces refused to because the situation was “unwinnable.”"
The truth coming from the mouth of a PotUS as he witnessed it. *Refreshing* - The "crap" in comments coming from those who abandoned the JCS and the country. *Priceless*
I am still not amused by your joining with forces that include PTH currently, but am grateful for your historical honesty and your wisdom.
Honestly JCS bets the National Mil any day any time. Remember Prestige Worldwide is a joke. Semper FI Do or Die and Redervous with Destiny are not. Glove is LOVE Remember that and Remember Cerb is war. Remember America is really Emericka and you will understand everything panpa
@Blaster @Inwegen
Wrong, we had money, you're thinking post-invasion is when we didn't have money, saying we lost the war because we spent money that apparently wasnt there is kind of ridiculous, don't you think?
@Avruch I agree, we were overwhelmed and probably couldn't have won the war even if we had all the support I sought, but the NSC did basically give up at one point, even recommending we just let them wipe us so we can RW back quickly. I was there, I think I'd know.
Also @ Avruch
Maybe the JCS did not communicate with you and the other forces, but I spoke to them personally. I even have Bradley's number to prove it. And no, American and Brazilians are not at a low point right now, relations are good, relationship with Terra HQ is bad.
But I do agree with another point, there will be alliance shifts.
We were wiped because of 100 wellness each hour... and the fact that NWO had and still has more players. There is no betrayal, bad allies or low budget that caused it. We were simply hugely outnumbered.
"But I am advocating supporting those who support us. It does not make sense to fight everyday for a nation that never will reciprocate that help."
Every damage they deliver in their RWs drains ONE, so it helps you as well ; )
Welcome back ; )
And the reason I was disappointed with HQ most of all is because they basically told us we're not worth saving because the expense would of been to high and selfish of us, this really frustrated me considering how much we supported them on their endeavors.
@Inwegen: "There were a number of other factors as well like a young national army and an old one that wanted nothing to do with us."
This is just wrong. the eUS Military was the subject of endless attacks in the media by those who picked the national leaders (and still do for the most part) having serious boners over Bradley Reala, Jankems et al who spoke for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The military leadership didn't sit at the same lunch table as you and Pfeiffer et al did.
That's why you legislated that goofy "reform" law. The "old" National Military wanted to fight to the last, you all were obsessed with spreadsheets and limiting the authority of the JCS to order our branches to fight when and where. It was all about your cadre wanting power and more power and more power.
So we said "f*** it" and went about creating our own supply structures, relieving other players from funding us through taxes and kept on fighting. We still do every day.
Not sure I agree with everything in this article; but good for Glove for bringing this all out. We in the eUS Military, while you all argue and bicker and thump your chests will continue our present policy of "STFU and Fight."
I thought one of the reasons for that "new" military was because the "old" one wouldn't follow the orders of the president. Funny how the truth really comes out months later.
Pay attention America, recently there have been MANY comments in assorted places where the truth is finally coming out.
One more thing, I want to make clear I know that not all of the eUSAF gave up, because naturally no one wants to see their nation wiped. I know there were many members who continued fighting, but the leadership handing in the towel and advocating a quick wipe for faster RWs really put a bad taste in my mouth. Its not the mentality I expected of the nation's military leaders.
Ignore the past and tell us this instead.
Considering the situation as it is now, not as it was when you began, what would you like for an alliance?
I love Glove articles.
TERRA is the Earth so if the Earth blow up how would we go to the moon without oxygen. Just messing with you glove but it was a good article
GLOVEISLOVE
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Go Canada Go
Avruch, do you actually believe all that crap you write?
Cause if you do.. dude you should stop hanging out with Ajay
O grande problema na Terra foi a guerrinha de egos entre os manda-chuva e os que querem ser manda-chuva.
O grande problema na Terra foi a guerrinha de egos entre os manda-chuva e os que querem ser manda-chuva. (2)
Terrra ended when some people tried to be larger than countries.
In Glove we trust!
Basic you trying to bring bulgaria and chile into a new alliance... called new terra with old terra plus bulgaria
This "the military leadership gave up" meme is a joke. The whole point of USAF is that the CP (Glove) was the military leader and the decision-maker. We didn't "give up" - we RW'd as many regions as we could, and also helped our allies. Now Fitisin says the JCS split off because they wanted to fight on... Uh, the split came before the war, bro, and we didn't fire the JCS, they left to avoid sharing rosters with the CP - and when time came to "fight on" most of you moved to Romania.
Commenting to say I lol'd while reading. Glove's moves are always telegraphed like a mofo.
Dunno how did you get that EDEN doesn't care about Terra. Mihail just wanted Bulgaria to attack ONE countries, not Terra or neutral ones.
Nice article.
Voted.
I was there.