[eUK] An Overview of a National MU ~ What have we got to lose?
Addaway
A couple of days ago I wrote an article calling for the eUK to unite its MUs into a single unit to try and improve the co-ordination of our damage and better pool our combined resources for the good of every fighter. It simply isn’t reasonable for the eUK to fragment its damage and fighters across eight major MUs when we have such a small community.
Today I want to build on that and set out specifics of how I envisage a national MU working, an MU that would improve our organisation, as well as protecting the unique identities and communities of each existing MU.
Here it is in visual form, and I’ll explain each element in greater detail below:
Organised, Centralised, but Culturally Diverse
Let me start by saying i’m not advocating for a bland, homogeneous MU with no character. I don’t want us to give up the unique communities that people have spent years building up. There is no need to.
What I am saying we should do is throw our lot in together and work under a unified command structure:
At the bottom we have the regiments, each ideally numbering between thirty and fourty, and at a minimum no less than 20 fighters. Each existing major MU has been allocated a number of regiments proportionate to the number of fighters in the MU. Upon the formation of the MU, the existing Commanders of the MUs will nominate which fighters will join which of their regiments, and nominate an initial Captain for each regiment.
Regiment’s will be able to choose their own ‘name’, in the same way that many existing MUs do now. So for example if the regiments allocated to the RN wanted to name themselves ‘HMS …’ and informally link together to still call themselves the Royal Navy- that’d be great! They would still be entitled to use their existing org and newspaper, and while they wouldn’t exist as a formal organisation within the MU, there’s nothing stopping people from organising informally to affiliate regiments together into largert branches of our armed forces.
Regiments 14 through to 18 would be for those fighters without a strong attachment to an existing MU, new players, those in small MUs, and those would like to be part of a new community with a new group of people.
Regiment Captains, aside from the first ones appointed by existing MU Commanders, will be appointed by the Commander of the Military Unit, on the advice of those in the relevant regiment and the other Regiment Captains. Captains would be charged with ensuring the DO is updated for their regiment, as well as communicating constantly with his fighters to ensure that all fighters are up to date on information they need.
The Command Staff will be made up of an MU Commander and up to two second-in-commands. The ‘Command Staff’ will be responsible for running the Unit-wide supply/reward system (see later section for more detail), setting of Combat Orders, directing damage to priorities set by the Minister of Defence and communicating those priorities to fighters, organising strikes and appointing Captains. The Command Staff will be appointed by the Minister of Defence from the pool of Regiment Captains. Government Ministers and Congress members will be excluded from holding these positions.
There will be an altered Minister of Defence above the MU Commander in this system, whose role will be to liaise between the MU, Cabinet, Congress and PLUTO in order to be able to set accurate priorities for the MU Commander to act on. The MoD will be responsible for overseeing all spending of public money by the MU Command to ensure that its being spent effectively and as intended.
Supplies
A tricky part of the MU to set up considering the potentially diverse supply networks that each MU might have. A simple solution is to establish that, obviously, every individual supplier has control over his own factories. If they still would like to just supply a certain regiment or members of the existing MU, then they can. I wouldn’t want to start demanding they turn over control to the MoD or such like.
But it would be best to encourage and incentivise people to pitch in to a single pot to cover the whole MU, from which a dedicated supply structure can be worked out after taking into account funding from Congress and any private donations. One way of doing this, other than appealing to their good nature, would be to have an increased tax rebate for those producing supplies for the central pot rather than for a narrower subsection of the MU; perhaps all the way to 100% of their WT back, with suppliers who choose to keep to themselves more (understandably, they will not be looked down upon) getting the existing 50% rebate.
This doesn’t cover all the specifics, but I think gives a good overview of the kind of National Unit that could be achievable. If we can both co-ordinate our damage better, promote a sense of national unity AND keep the spirits of our existing MUs alive then what do we have to lose?
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Remember when considering if this is 'affordable' or remember that I am not proposing the govt single-handedly funds generous supplies for the unit. I am saying the govt will contribute money on top of any supplied by others; if the Royal Navy wants to continue its commune system, they would be free to pick who they want to employ and limit it to original RN members, that would be fine.
The end result even if all MUs decide to just supply within themselves at existing levels would still be more supplies since the govt would contribute extra cash on top and we might get private donations towards it. We'd also gain from the increased co-ordination and sense of comradeship among eUKers.
We have nothing to lose by giving this a go- if we decide down the line it isn't working it could be broken up and we could return to how we are now. But why not give this a go for six months and see where it takes us?
You have nothing to lose as you haven't set up a successful unit, and spent real life money on it, we have lots to lose the ability to set combat orders we we ll lose commanders, 2nd commanders and captains who let to set orders, the ability to be OUR own unit,a unit set up in connection with our political party Legion is an international unit and was top of Pluto damage for many weeks in a row their is no chance of us taking a risk and folding we keep our fighters active, and enjoy the Unit missions,we are a unit outside the government but will always following orders in defending our country, we have the most active chat and we are a family - we are one and we every ready operate like an National unit. we are ~Legion
I quote Lord Doel
Main problem is what you pointed... countries do not need more coordination. Black Spectra in Spain or FAF are very highly coordinated MU's with a lot of tacticians sleeping... but they are not willing to pay packs, and if you dont buy packs... you require at least 10 people to make the same damage than a pack buyer.
The problem is not damage direction ,it is we lack damage.
'we ll lose commanders, 2nd commanders and captains who let to set orders,"
so you'll lose a few titles. Is that really that important? Legion members would be as entitled to command positions within the MU as anybody else. If you and your members are so good at making an MU then I'm sure you will rise to the very top...
"the ability to be OUR own unit,a unit set up in connection with our political party Legion is an international unit and was top of Pluto damage for many weeks in a row their is no chance of us taking a risk and folding we keep our fighters active, and enjoy the Unit missions,we are a unit outside the government but will always following orders in defending our country, we have the most active chat and we are a family - we are one and we every ready operate like an National unit. we are ~Legion"
This is just silly fluff- you won't lose any of your ability to be a 'family' inside a national MU as I explained in the article. You were top of the damage boards for a while because you had someone buying all of your members packs, not because legion is some shining example of MU brilliance. Come on now.
"The problem is not damage direction ,it is we lack damage."
The problem is both. If you genuinely believe we don't have a problem with the direction of our damage you have been living in a dreamworld for the past three years. This idea at least attempts to solve one of our problems.
And the fact remains, if you decide that the MU isn't for legion after a few months then fine- but why not at least try something new rather than wallowing in the some old dysfunctional MU setup?
"You have nothing to lose as you haven't set up a successful unit, and spent real life money on it, "
Yet again the RL cash argument. Spending your hard earned cash on this game doesn't entitle you to any special treatment Dapper, no matter how much you cry to the dutch about 'non pack buyers bossing us around'.
Grow up and recognise that some people can't afford to waste money on a browser game.
This attitude will not endure people to you,I would advise others to stay the hell away from you.The legion has a very good set up.
Dapper you logged into the wrong account for this comment
"set up in connection with our political party" - and that's why he will never want to work with anyone else.
I've heard some talk of a national MU being tried before and failing. That was before my time, but can anyone elaborate?
I remember playing briefly around 2010 and the UK had a fully fledged National Military then, before the time of ingame MUs. I believe this was dismantled sometime 2011-2012, though idk exactly.
For me, whatever the reason at the time, both the game mechanics and the people involved are almost entirely different so I think its something we can have a fresh take on.
It didn't really fail, the game changed. The Navy was successful but had to turn into something else when erep rising happened and people had to specialise into three different military skills. That version of the game failed massively and reverted back to this. Some time after MU's were introduced and people went there separate ways. I think there was a national MU at the start of that but it didn't really take off, then came Legion etc.
Gov decided they didn't want to pay for it, and basically outsourced a national MU in the form of Legion under Rodney.
Around day 1760 there was the BEF for older player. Players eligible for NHs also had a MU. Both of these were disbanded due to cost. This is the article I wrote at the time http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/requiem1-2120507/1/20
This was also followed by a non government funded national MU based on the ESO legion under Rodney which also failed, can't remember why or when
Legion didn't fail, as I remember it simply ran its course and the people behind it decided to eRetire or move on to other things.
Sounds like you were pretty against the move to private MUs?
I'm all for a National MU that is directed and funded by the government at least we'll get something for the punitive taxes we pay.
If all the commanders and top fighters agree, it could work.
Btw, what about people who don't fight? They will also be included in the national MU?
Do we totally leave the old MUs or we maybe use them for non-active players or something?
Will recruitment for the regiments be allowed? For example articles like "Join the RN regiment because...".
Every eUK citizen would be welcome, and recruiting for your regiment, contests between regiments are all things I'd encourage.
"what do we have to lose?"
FFS Boaty, what about my unicorns?
Unicorns, you can ever have too much of a good thing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wb5HWVh6Fs
Oh man, what one will never leave my brain
Well this looks amazing
No thanks.
Why?
Why not just coordinate damage every evening.How long does each battle last?An hour and half ish.Each existing MU take a battle each.RN battle 1 legion battle 2 etc.This would stop damage being done when not necessary.Each battle can be coordinated in the MU chatroom.Commanders can be in touch with each other if extra help is needed.
nope - it's the complete opposite. People only fighting in one round is exactly what's wrong - we need to be able to bring our damage to bear in a round to make a difference. Too many people in eUK will actively sit out a round even when we are losing if they think they can get a BH easier in the next round.
So if every 1 hits in the same round, what happens for next 8 rounds?
Re read what i wrote Paul
If we needed any more evidence that the eUK's damage direction is horrible and that we need a national MU, its an MU Commander doing 174 kills on the wrong side of a battle. http://prntscr.com/amtf8h
I don't blame Huey for this, its plainly obvious that the govt seems to be incapable of communicating with our MUs effectively, but a National MU would ensure that this kind of thing wouldn't happen, regardless of what government is in power
http://prntscr.com/amtmsv That amount of damage is like 1 hit?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/main/latest-updates
Its the april fool thing, everyone has had their damage nerfed
Ah lol
May be he made the mistake you did, remember ?
As I said in the comment, I wouldn't blame Huey for it- its perfectly possible for people to make mistakes.
It actually turned out that Rathena had changed the priority so that we had to hit for the eUK without updating anyone except for her cabinet
ha, ok, no need for a national MU then 😛
Whilst I appreciate the political point Boaty was trying to put across to an extent and "I" was just an example of a "mistake" any MU Commander could make.
I'd like to just say whilst I'm not claiming to be infallible, I do ensure that I try to check all relevant MoD, PLUTO,, CP (Cabinet) messages before I set DOs for the Irregulars or commit my damage to battles. In this instance I was a little ahead of the UK MoD orders being updated however as it had come from the Croatian MoD via our CP, there was no reason to wait for the UK MoD to update orders.
I'd also say our existing MU Commanders and Tanks from my experience are relatively good at damage direction. o7
Fulfilling the requirements of Adriatica??? 🙂