'We're So Screwed', part 3: La Bomba
vingaer
Hey guys,
I'd like to ask the mighty President in Exile about the recent wave of articles in the foreign media. By the way -- why are you guys resigning from Congress (toeofdoom as an example) and then complain about having no political representation?
This situation reminds me of a dialog from Farscape:
Rygel: None shall pass!
John: Check this out! Brave Sir Knight! I am King Arthur of Camelot! This is my loyal vassal - Patsy!
Rygel: Bollocks! You're a pimped-out arrogant fleshie who wants to use my road - where none - shall pass!
We were going on and on with green4x about his definition of PTO. Well, I personally find it quite funny, since he is a Russian guy, living in Russia and only 'visiting' some of his friends in RL Belarus. That makes him as much of a PTO-er as, in example, myself -- irl I live in Poland and make no secret about it. Green4x, however, left the talks with the Polish guys when he got busted, displaying his Moscow City ip loud and clear on IRC. Polish guys lol'd when they were called "PTO-ers" by a person who has no real bonds to Belarus : ).
That's the first question I'd like to ask you in public -- why (according to yourself) aren't you a PTO-er if you happen not bo be Belarussian IRL? I also have rl Belarussian friends, so this particular argument is quite invalid.
"Many times we tried to cooperate with them but failed each time – they simply don’t want to hear belarusians."
Let's agree to make the logs public 🙂
? We (Poles + eNigeriens) will gladly agree to do so, ofc if you guys agree as well. Hiding behind secrecy and writing weird stuff, accusing us of being not talkative and such, is really quite low without presenting a valid evidence.
"500 BYR (national currency) is already stolen from that Org and we can’t predict where PTOer is going to spend national money."
Right where you were informed how it would be spent -- on the Monetary Market. Btw., we are about to issue more BYR (I have no idea how much exactly, ask Nina Ayu) in order to secure it. Please count carefully all the BYR there before accusing people of stealing.
I think our reign is really bad -- the salaries have raised, the job market is working, the MM is about to be stabilized, we started earning money.. oh wait, but we speak Polish.
"eBelarus should be such country where the government can talk with the citizens and use national language."
Which is why green speaks Russian :3.
edit: lol, yea, I am aware that FOR SOME TIME : ) Russian is one of 2 official languages in BY. But my point is, why do you guys agree to use Russian, when a language truly distinguishing you in the international community is called BELArussian? By choosing to speak Russian out of the two of them, you are suggesting to the outsiders that you accept leadership of the people called 'Russians'. It looks kind of weird, that's my point :F.
"We have no support from PTOers and from captured government. PTOers didn’t let us to win the presidential elections so we form unofficial one."
What didn't let you win, is the vast amount of deleted votes. If you look closely, you will surely notice that somehow Nina Ayu didn't have, well, nasty voters, while green's supporters were kind of silenced twice by the anti-cheating system: http://www.erep.cc/elections/president?d=201011&country=83 . The ones who didn't let you have the medal, green4x, are your voters -- not the Poles or the Romanians.
"they don’t let new players to be in game"
I assure you, they do let new players to be in the game.
Well, green4x, as I told you -- I can understand why you feel bad. You lost the elections, didn't get the medal, which is why you proposed an impeachment right after the votes were counted and Nina Ayu got the presidential panel.
My question is -- what did the guy do wrong? Did he steal? Did he cheat? Why on Earth did he deserve such treatment? Only because he is Polish?
Well, you are Russian and no one here would impeach you for being one.
Accept the loss like a man.
Comments
Why?
Why are you guys resigning from Congress?
Narodowy Bank Polski nie za duzo tam golda macie ? ;p
To form przejściowa. Z dużo do zera ;P
А получится ли вести диалог без обычных призывов и лозунгов?
Вашы людзі? Вось у чым пытанне. Я спадзяюся, што вы зможаце зрабіць гэта ў будучыні.
damn, you went Russian S Artut, dis is the Russian version for you: Ваши люди? Вот в чем вопрос. Я надеюсь, что вы сможете сделать это в будущем.
You forgot to mention the oh so praised and promised neutrality of Belarus by Russian PTOers:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mod-1084-ruse1-1566516/1/20
Now it becomes clear what you guys really wanted all along, which is to welcome Belarus as slaves of Russia once again.
Every true Belarusian should leave the Nezalezhnaya Belarus party immediately.
Khere daj golda ~_~
So true! Shame on u Green4x.
@S. Artur
Цель переговоров - была экономика и только о ней мы и собирались говорить. Вингаер - одна из тех кто в чате начал обсуждение историческй принадлежности Беларуси к Польше. Это было очердной флейм от этого игрока. Более того, Микслиардер просто посла в.. куда подальше в самом начале диалога. Мне лично неважны лозунги, мне неважны национальности, мне нужен результат диалога.
@Vingaer
you wrote some more lies, but I don't care.
Bigger part of our community from Belarus, and Green4x was elected as a person who a) have enough time to act like a leader b) speaks same language as we + knows English c)have really good ideas.
Russian language is one of the official languages of Belarus. Have you ever been to Minsk? Come and you will be surprised what language is used mainly.
Are you going to bring new players from Belarus?
No, you don't.
Are you supporting natives?
No, you don't.
Do you have clear plans open to public?
No, you don't.
Are you trying to cooperate with others?
No, you don't.
>> why (according to yourself) aren't you a PTO-er if you happen not bo be Belarussian IRL?
Its simple. His candidacy has got full support of IRL Belarusian community which try to atract new IRL Belarusian players and socialize them.
While you Poles do nothing for eBelarus except collecting medals and stealing BYRs and gold.
green, where exactly did I lie? I will be very happy to discuss : )
'It was ocherdnoy flame from that player' -- do you agree to publish the logs? We do 😎
I see no sense in this article. If I'm not a Belarussian, then I can't claim someone an obvious PTOer? Haha oh wow!
Yes, Green4x lost. But it were so strange - admins TWO times toke from him a big part of his votes. And from Romanian PTO-bots only 1! ONE! vote. You can see the graph of the election in my or St.Russian news.
>Which is why green speaks Russian
Russian is a official language in Belarus. You didn't know that?
NikolayTitkin maybe they found 2 multi farms? stop accusing us for your cheating
And BTW, I'm still waiting for your suggestions how to improve media in eBelarus:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-ru-en-summary--1565516/1/20
Haptoh, yeah, yeah. If someone is cheating - he's Russian, it's obvious! If a meteor bumps into the Earth - Russians do this! And how did votes for your Romanian party rose so incredibly high (70 votes) in 2 hours and 15 minutes?
we dont give a damn about romanians, theres an alliance between ePoland and eNiger, we dont work with romanians.
@Vingaer
>>Green4x, however, left the talks with the Polish guys
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lie. You began flaming about historical rights of Poland to Belarus. I tried stop you, but failed. I asked you to talk about economy, but you don't want to hear. Well, the only solution was to leave the irc-chat. I'm not care my IP ^__^ as I can show you any IP you like (a chinese if you like!)
>>Which is why green speaks Russian
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silly phrase. Look in Wiki - one of the National language in Belarus is russian. (kapitan oczywiste)
>>while green's supporters were kind of silenced twice by the anti-cheating system
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that "supporters" also can be romanian/polish supporters, just keep in mind it ~__^
>>why are you guys resigning from Congress (toeofdoom as an example)
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His answer was that no difference whether he was a congress member or not, because belarusians can't do anything against polish majority in congress.
I also have two more letters from players who left the game because of PTO-group "reign"
BTW, before elections YOU had an article saying that our people are bots (made by leader of your party), so who is accusing who?
I would impeach the Russian who has votes removed by anti-cheating system every day and twice on weekend!!!
"that "supporters" also can be romanian/polish supporters, just keep in mind it ~__^"
yes, we made multies and voted for you OMG ROTFL
Green4x Russian is maybe one of official languages, but it doesn't make you Belarusian... Care to explain deleted votes? Or is it possible that they are all legit and that admin hates you and wanted you to lose? : D
Care to comment on your Moscow IP? lol you tried to pTO new country, you failed, so don't go selling stories about bad pTOers and how you are there to protect them. It is lame : P
La bamba! Vin 😘
@Romper
>>I would impeach the Russian who has votes removed by anti-cheating system every day and twice on weekend!!!
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I would impeach ANY president who has votes removed by anti-cheating system every day and twice on weekend!!!
So, here we have President of ePoland to be impeached (according to your logic): http://www.erep.cc/elections/president?d=201011&country=35
And here we have President of eRussia to be impeached (according to your logic): http://www.erep.cc/elections/president?d=201011&country=41
And here we have President of eUSA to be impeached (according to your logic): http://www.erep.cc/elections/president?d=201011&country=24
should I continue?
Romper, specially for you I will repeat:
Bigger part of our community from Belarus, and Green4x was elected as a person who a) have enough time to act like a leader b) speaks same language as we + knows English c)have really good ideas.
We know who he is and where he is from, we always knew.
Why is your congress member!!! and Minister of Finance!!! lying about it then?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-by-mofa-pl-eng-greetings-from-ebelarus-1565280/1/20
St. Russian:
"Kamikaze muru
Green4x is RL Belarus"
@bernard75
Perhaps he just misused ))) But I myself nowhere sad I'm rl belarusian, opposite I told that 1/3 I'm polish ^____^
"Kamikaze muru
Green4x is RL Belarus"
o lol, in that case -- I am a RL Belarussian too!
Lies, lies - isn't it typical, Russian fail again.
@Bernard75
The main problem is current government can't talk to its citizen using their languages (belarusian/rusian)... You may say - "what is the difference?!" And the answer is that rl belarusian people want play for their eCountry... just create friendly environment for them and that's all!!! I have no difference who rule the country, but only with one condition - respect citizens, their language, customs and follow their interest in game... Just help them play joyfully!
*lets discuss welcome message from president at irc? I need you and some more adequate persons (without off-topic and flaming) and perhaps president also. Can we?
@xeno
it's seems you don't like me any more? T____T
anyway - just find where I sad I was belarusian! XD It was wrote nowhere! ))))
@Vingaer
>>o lol, in that case -- I am a RL Belarussian too!
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I saw a lie somewhere in that phrase ~__^
unvote!
@Green4x
Well, it seems we have a pretty similar agenda.
I'm sure we can work something out, PM me when you are on IRC.
Green4x @ Мне тупые дебаты о пренодлежности кокойто територий в нашем времени толтко потому что ктото, чтото, кагдато завоевал- ну очень нравятся. Только приемлемую дату бы сторонам найти? Варшава- польский, русский, шведский, немецкий или французский город? Кто там ещё после себя руины оставил? Думаю на етом и хватит потому что европу так делить утомительно, но интерестно- сюрпризов на каждые 20 лет историй ух как много. Пусть поляки с литовцами сперва выяснят- кто перед кем на четвереньки обязан встать!
bernard75, most of us open to cooperation.
Ok. Bernard75, vinager:
Who can announce budget of eBelarus?
Wiich of industries Congress going to develop?
What support will be provided for beginners?
What about activity in the press?
Green4x its not that I don't like You, it is just politics. I can't let you flame my party especially while we are here to help eBelarus to grow in to power. And that kind of accusation won't help at all.
"help eBelarus to grow in to power."
You do nothing to help eBelarus, all what you are doing till now is just making profit to yourself.
LIES VINGAER, LIES !
THEY ARE NOT RUSSIAN, THEY ARE JUST RUSSIAN VISITORS IN BELARUS.
HAIL PHOENIX./
@NumbuS
How was anything we have done profitable for us?
@S Artur:
You will have to wait for the official press release.
We will certainly not discuss that in the comments to some article.
Voted!
lol article from a Polish
@vasmegye
no shit sherlock
@bernard75:
Ok. You didn't say, how long I (not only) have to wait.
The President did not answer the same questions, too.
This is a constructive position?
you didnt know belarus spoke russian? wow.
belarus-sia? doesnt ring anything yet?
keep trying.
build it, and they will come. o/
Jovan Tekelija, I see that you love to see proRussian states.