About EPIC's Presidential Nomination
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by Kronos Q
This month, EPIC should not be nominating anyone for President. Why? Read on.
The Egalitarian Party of Independent Canadians (ie. EPIC) has a tradition of always allowing our members to have a say in our decisions. The biggest example of this is our monthly Country President Primary Vote, where our members decide who EPIC nominates for the Presidential elections.
We do this by using the Instant-Runoff Voting method, where we ask every single one of our members to rank the Presidential candidates. This method has been very successful , and so we've kept it up for the past year and a half. Yes, that's right, 18 months; here's our very first article about it. That isn't to say that it's been perfect, as there have been various blunders by numerous Party Presidents, myself included, over the months. But overall, it's well-liked by our party (and others).
This month, there was no CP Primary Vote. As far as I can tell, there didn't seem to be any sort of blunder about it either. We haven't really heard from our PP about it. One thing he did post though, was this quote, which comes from Addy Lawrence's campaign topic on the EPIC forums:
"Noticing a severe lack of Pimp in these kabinets. I don't think we're doing the 4 step vote this term because we don't seem to be as active. At any rate, I think it's a waste of time for something so small as a nomination, so I'll get around to putting up some sort of poll this weekend when I get a chance so we can get an official nomination in a couple days or so."
It's true that EPIC hasn't been as active this month, but by not continuing our Primary Vote tradition, that only makes us even less active. Also, along with Congressional elections, the Presidential nomination is the biggest thing a party does. I don't know of any party that does anything more important than that. But please, feel free to correct me. A forum poll may have given some legitimacy to a nomination, but there has not been one of those this month either.
Anyway, that's the reason. This article is meant to explain why EPIC should not be nominating in the upcoming elections, and to hopefully get the attention of our PP, PimpDollaz, so he can answer the question I asked him two days ago.
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Nice
I love a good drama
ahahahah
Pimp is actually in the cabinet.
I'm glad I didn't get EPIC's nomination, people would say I "bought" it.
he was to busy trying to sell the nom to rylde
According to your post in this topic, you "took the bait", Addy.
http://ecanada.cc/epic/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=520&p=9565
HAHAHA Addy, you can't hide
WoW - current CP and January Candidate Addy offered a bribe to get a party nomination
#Scandalz
That being said
If EPIC is so "Independent" why not have each member choose their President without bias or influence
IE: Without a Blaring EPIC logo on one person that the majority OF VOTERS (not respondents to your poll) might not be in favor of
The idea was never fully explored in my opinion, though those who did post had good solid arguments
http://tinyurl.com/7vd454o
I'm still looking for the ostrich!!
Rolo, don't you mean #Secretz ?
I was offered the oppurtunity to bribe Pimp for the endorsement I declined on the merit that I was already going uphill and not worth it. Honest answer.
Mysteriously today pimp joined addy's updated cabinet.
You be the judge on the 5th
As Addy's new minister of information inform us pimpy.
Like Rylde, I have heard a boatload of Canadians (EPIC and non-EPIC alike) comment in favour of the Instant Run-Off. I appreciate the opportunity in my off season, and it gives me a much clearer sense of where my home party is at when I play during the summer. Like sample polling before an election, it's a pretty good indicator for what happens with our party. Keep it.
I have been busy as of late, so I couldn't do a proper poll.
No deals have been made with anyone.
no endorsement will be made, so the election will be clean
that is all, may the best candidate win
pimpdollaz I think your party would sleep better knowing there PP stayed neutral a declined a cabinet position offered by Addy.
Go out with some class.
@ Dierios
I heard there are logz of Addy and Pimp hammering out teh deal in #Scandalz..
Thats just what I heard though...
Addy is a greasy swindler.
Busy? According to your forum user profile (http://ecanada.cc/forums/search.php?author_id=270&sr=posts), you've logged-in and posted to the forums every day since you've been elected as PP (except Christmas, which is understandable). Not once was the word "busy" mentioned, nor anything to imply that you wouldn't be able to do a proper poll. Also, a forum poll, which you said you would be able to do in your quote above, only takes a few minutes, but that wasn't there either.
Being "busy" also doesn't fit with your above quote, where you said the reasoning for not doing a Primary Vote was because "we don't seem to be as active."
In truth, this article is only partially about the elections, but moreso about the Party President. Would you like to revise your comment?
Addy is a greasy swindler. x2
i guess the fact EPIC is not CPP. Ethel Beware if your membership ever wakes up.
ffs, Pimp, even if you had been busy, you could've swallowed your pride and asked someone; I would have been glad to do it... and Nosyt seems to do it half the time anyways if I'm not mistaken.
Also, MonkeyMan, I challenge you to a fight to the death for EPIC PP in January.
If the monkey wins is that the last we hear of Beeman?
Down with ewoks like Beeman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utdOokcSlbE
The comment "okay, I'll bite" and "I took the bait" are in reference to Pimp's interest to join my cabinet, which had vacancies. There were no strings attached.
To clarify, I announced Pimp in my cabinet AFTER the cp nominations were locked down and EPIC didn't nominate anyone. There was no deal.
but you and pimp have been bitter foes since your days in CPF. Bad timing and Bad Luck I guess because it looks fishy.
@ Beeman
Pimp doesn't swallow pride.....
@Rolo: Fair enough
Pimp swallows other things though.
@Crisfire: No, for I am immortal and shall never die.
First time I'm let down by EPIC.
If eCanada's democratic steward falls, we're only gonna get worse. I used to look to EPIC for integrity when no other party had any, now all I see is AFKness, incompetence, and possible corruption. Lame stuff.
Get your house in order you butts.
Kronos for PP?
Kronos for EPIC PP!
NO, BEEMAN for EPIC PP!
Yeah, the only swallowing done in this country is rolo the roach begging for votes from noobs and people who don't know him. the slurpage is massive.
Anyhow monkey man, since you won't stop bugging me, what I do when I'm busy is cut back to the core sites, like in-game and national forums. As in, I prioritise one or two things I want to get done, and cut my losses with the rest of the sites. So yes, even though I still log in to certain areas, I don't go to other places, because I have made a hard decision to limit my time here, so I can get on to do better things with my time IRL. Hence I do a quick stop by the national forums ( if you have login times, you will see that I don't spend much time there) because those are more important, then I'm gone again. That's why I'm not that active on the party site.
As for not asking anyone to do it, Roger and Alias are not nearly active enough, Coda doesn't know her ass from a hole in the wall, and I sent a message to Nosyt just before Congress elections, asking him for some advice (I assume he never mentioned this to you), but he never replied. He always replies to stuff, so I took it as a sign that he either wasn't active enough to help, or he just didn't want to be bothered by me. So, I never bothered to ask him again.
I never asked you, because you always seem to have some bone to pick with me, no matter how little. I try to talk to you as little as I can because I'm tired of getting your attitude all the time. As for Beeman, well Beeman's an idiot, that's why no one wants him to be PP, so I'm not asking him.
So why do you run for Party President when you're busy with RL? Why not let someone with the motivation to do the job, do the job? You've run for PP for the past 4~5 months, and are running for it next month as well, but I have yet to see any actual effort from you for the benefit of EPIC.
I do have a bone to pick with you (but that doesn't mean I can't help EPIC out when it's needed). I've been quiet about it long enough, giving you a chance to show yourself as a sincere "EPIC member", but I have yet to see it.
pimp showing hes a class act once again
Pimp you're full of crap. Stop making excuses and bringing random people into your mess.
This isn't a difference of opinion. You simply just didn't do your job. Instead of wasting your time here commenting on Kronos' article maybe you should be looking into how you can either seek new help or seek to improve how you can manage as a PP.
Coda, I asked him to comment here. Otherwise he'd be ignoring what I'm saying.