LYING and SPYING! Someone Finally Tells the Truth!
ArtyP
LYING AND SPYING? CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES? FALSE ACCUSATIONS?!
Please, some people need to get their facts straight. And I am here to let the public know the FULL ENTIRE TRUTH of what exactly did happen.
Everything will be cleared up, unfortunately I have no IRC screenshots of this, or logs, since I have no idea how to record logs on mibbit. Unfortunate for me,
Two evenings ago, on the IRC, it was the day that many Political Parties were hosting their in-forum CP Support poll. Of course, as the VP, I had taken upon myself to add these 4 candidates to the DAL CP poll:
Duke Leto
Dade Pendwyn
Adasko
Jefflav
Among these, I realized there was no CPF candidate! So I asked Jbdivinus if he had any candidates in mind…he replied with Pants Magee. I didin’t believe him at the time…since he wasn’t a serious candidate. Once I was about to add “Pants Magee” to the DAL CP poll, I realized I shouldn’t, why? Because 1) Pants Magee failed to contact the DAL, like all others had and 2) Pants Magee failed to write up a platform.
From there, just to make sure Pants Magee wasn’t a serious candidate, I asked Jbdivinus if he was in the CPF CP poll, jbdivinus didn’t say so. So I asked JB if I could see the Poll current results…once again, he said no. Someone on that channel was reading our conversation, a member had told me he could tell me the current results. My curiosity took over, and I said yes. This person came back and told me the results, which were 4 – 4 between Addy Lawrence and Sara Droz.
I got furious, seeing that Pant’s Magee was no where ON the CPF’s CP poll. I got mad at Jbdivinus for lying to me, so I told him I didn’t add him to the poll. I told jbdivinus that I had proof what his polls on the CPF forum were. Fighting began, because Jbdivinus was mad that I didn’t add his fake CP Candidate to the poll. He also accused me of SPYING on his poll.
After much fighting, Ayeshan Dakseus stepped in and took the blame of “SPYING”. Now, why would the MoJ do that? Well, he wanted to relieve tension between the CPF-DAL and he did not want another fight to break out between the two parties. He wanted peace. So Ayeshan lied to Jbdivinus, telling him it was himself who had made a multi on the CPF forums and sought out this information. (Ayeshan had really just picked a random in-active CPF Forum member and said it was him).
From here, jbdivinus took it upon himself and opened a New Case on the eCanada forums here:
A Breach of the Criminal Code
Then he took this issue to here:
Attorney General
In these two threads I’ve linked he had accused several DAL members, and he had accused me.
NOW, after much arguing, and trying to figure out a solution, he THREATENED ME. (Unfortunately, I forgot to take a screenshot of this on the IRC.) Jbdivinus specifically told me, that if I did not RESIGN from the Attorney General Election, he would tell SaraDroz to put up this article: eCanadas ‘Watergate’? Updated!. Which they ended up doing earlier today.
Now, last night I had told Jbdivinus EVERYTHING. THE ENTIRE TRUTH. Everything said her e on this article is what I told him, exact story. And it was the hardcore truth.
Jbdivinus had agreed to RETRACT ALL his statements, and stop his case. Which he didn’t. He continued to pursue this, caused more ruckus and SaraDroz published that article.
SO YOU SEE, THERE WAS NO SPYING, THERE WAS NO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. I’m just an honest loyal eCanadian who just wanted to become eCanada’s next Attorney General.
This is the truth, and nothing BUT the truth. This is not a personal attack, or an attack on anything, this article’s purpose is to clear up this confusing mess.
Thank you for reading,
Artorius Perim
Vice President of the DAL
(P.S. If you need anymore clarification please comment below, and I will add your questions to the article!)
Questions From The Readers:
Q:Who spied for you?
A: I will keep that disclosed, he or she will not get involved, as it is my problem. I did not recruit them, they voluntarily told me.
Q: Do you have evidence of this conversation, (logs etc).
A: Unforunately no, I've explained in the article why.
Comments
PERTAMAXXX hey bro(lliance)
from eIndonesia
🙂
But how come I cannot see the poll results from any of the parties?
^ Your questions is irrelevant..move along.
Yeah i got a few
Who spied for you?
Do you have evidence of this conversation, (logs etc).
The person under which you told him to give you the results was a spy, you just recruited instead of making your own.
It would be nothing different if I was able to convince Pimp to give me info on Closed Door Congress.
Spying is spying Perim, no matter how you slice it.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
"SO YOU SEE, THERE WAS NO SPYING, THERE WAS NO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. I’m just an honest loyal eCanadian who just wanted to become eCanada’s next Attorney General"
Actually. You getting a member of another party to give you information that should be behind closed doors is spying. The fact that you don't see it that way is exactly why you shouldn't be AG.
No powerown, I had not recruited anyone: They volunteered.
I also asked a member of CPF me how the poll was going.
They told me who was winning, with how many votes, and by how much.
This CPF member? Jbdivinus.
Asking a friend a question and them answering is not "spying". Enough of this silliness.
Muglack:: Once again, I had not asked anyone to give me this info, they voluntarily told me.
You had a choice to say no.
You did not
Take responsibility
Powerown, as I have EXPLAINED in my dam article, which you obviously didn't read, Curiosity took over, end of story.
Interesting and ty. Why then am I advised by a very senior Minister that another Minister is behind all this? I find it hard to understand to understand why your account differs from the Presidents too... Tbh I am even more confuzzled than I was...
I don't even know how the President got involved. THIS IS THE CORE TRUTH. They stories are differing because they are covering for me. Well no more, do not believe their stories, this is the truth.
Dade Pendwyn was informed by Ayeshan (I believe) Dade then talked with Jbdivinus about it.
Artorius Perim
So Dade can't be trusted, and this coming from a senior member of his own party.
This is truly eyeopening.
Dade CAN be trusted, he was just trying to settle the issue. What makes you think something untrustworthy happened?
This would be important if there were actually any difference between the DAL and the CPF.
"😉ade CAN be trusted, he was just trying to settle the issue. What makes you think something untrustworthy happened?"
You just told us that he and Ayechan lied and are still lying. Why would I assume that just because someone lied that they're untrustworthy... Oh right.
No I didn't I said that Ayeshan did lie, yes, but Dade was told about it and he tried to resolve the issue with Jbdivinus, I guess he did not get the full story from me.
Artorius Perim
"They stories are differing because they are covering for me."
THEIR stories are differing because THEY are covering for me.
That implies more than one person. Since Ayeshan and Dade are the only other people mentioned it seems like that the two of them are the THEY that you are referring to.
so now it's your fault and Dade and the MoJ are covering for you? If they are covering for you and there is no crime why would they lie? It just gets stranger...
Yes it is my fault because I hadn't told them the entire story, I tried my best to tell them to stop this nonsense and just let me handle it, but they insisted to try to settle Jbdivinus. They wanted to settle this issue without having to make a huge media scene. Well, I had to resort to a media scene to settle this.
Artorius Perim
The truth is generally somewhere in between, I think this is one of those times
"Curiosity took over, end of story."
Curiosity I'm sure took over with 1ronman at one point as well. Then the curiosity turned into corruption and breach of trust
Your response should have been "that's none of my business", and you should have reported said citizen to the CPF PP
Well what he should of done was taken the information and moved on instead of lording it over JB's head that he got the info he wanted and there was nothing he could do about it.
So someone "volunteered" the information to you. Had you said "donated," then it would have been a much different issue because that word now equates with "stole." Spying and stealing may not be so clearly associated since it is hard to compare money with information.
Enough with semantics -- lately there have been a lot of leaked info - PMs and closed forum stuff (not to mention that whole GF thing). It's greatly devalued "trust" and we need to get back to upholding a certain quality of honour to make this game work. btw - that's not really a direct comment on this spying issue because, frankly, there's too much llama in it for me to follow.
Speaking of Llama!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/canada-has-a-new-world-class-citizen-en-fr--1441775/1/20">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/cana[..]/1/20
Pants Magee for CP!
curiosity killed the cat. Riddle me this, riddle me that, how much does it take to off a bat?