Forum Admin or Forum Enforcer?
Wilpanzer
Greetings compatriots
Not too long ago Kiko wrote about being uncertified. for changing Zansi's certification to "uncertified" and back to certified within a matter of seconds.
The consequence was that of being uncertified and kicked from cabinet - by a forum admin!
This is the story right?
No, not exactly.
Zansi has done this before. The previous victim was Cody Caine. Zansi basically intimidated Cody out of cabinet. Both still haven't made amends, but I suspect there's more to it than just personal differences.
Kiko highly criticized the forum for its unnecessary complexity. I believed this situation gave Zansi the convenient casus belli(war justification) to kick Kiko.
I believe this is a direct undermining of authority:
Miyagiyoda was democratically elected as CP of eSA. In his recent article Kiko is assigned as director of births and immigration.
Zansi however states the following:
"Kiko is not qualified to be Director of the DBI unless he agrees to follow the rules, and if the CP still insists that he is Director then the CP will be breaking the rules."
However:
Kiko is not going to apologize!
Zansi also stipulate
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"The Director of the DBI assists the Minister of Security, and the Minister of Security can perform all the duties of the Director if one has not been officially appointed. The MoS and DBI are therefore still fully operational."
Implying that Nickerball or Liquidice should take over from Kiko.
Should the DBI be really so expendable?
For vark steaks we're not Russia people! We don't have 100 replacements for every fallen servant.
Claudio has set it clear:
"The way immigrations is done was changed. The manner, the system and everything. Kiko decided that he was content with the old way and didn't want to adjust to the new. Zanzi is changing things, then enforcing them as the "New LAW"
So the forum admin is saying adapt or die
Let me remind you he wrote up most of the rules enforced on forum...
So fair warning to all:
Don't threaten Zansi's ego. He will ban or uncertify you.
No one needs to take Kiko's job
Miyagiyoda as democratically elected leader assigned Kiko as DBI. If forum admin doesn't agree then tough s***, he's not our president. I urge you all, allow Kiko what he is entitled to, allow him his dignity. He may be expendable for the forum admin, but he's not expendable for eSA!
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No one is expendable from eSA. Even if Zansi was in-fact willing to cover all cabinet positions, that is not the will of our President Miyagiyoda. This is a farce and I can't believe it's continued so long.
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In Australia's forums, the standard forum rules don't apply to Government forums. Admins and Gmods are not permitted to enforce powers there unless specifically requested by the Moderator of the respective forums, IE: Speaker in the Senate/Congress forums or the Prime Minister /CP in the Cabinet forums.
Maybe you guys need the same thing put in place : )
That is what we wanted, but the administrator thought best that he did all himself... Except for setting up polls.
Zansi also blocked me from forums when I complained to him about the spam messages he autosends
Let Zansi lick Ten's a$$. He is useless for anything else.
Move on you sad little man. Move on.
Why are you so defensive when someone attack your "little" friend?
I think the pertinent question is why you've still got a hard on for him? It's been months. I don't think he spends as much time thinking about you as you seem to do thinking about him.
This article is about Zansi and his management. Only thing I remember about his management is his prejudiced decisions about Ten. So why shouldn't I state it here?
Wow! Pull your head out of there. You just said why you shouldn't, this article has nothing to do with Ten.
i felt for a while now the forums is not what it should be, hence my very infrequent visits. a Shame cause if there is one that feels this way you will find there is many more............
Zansi however states the following:
"Kiko is not qualified to be Director of the DBI unless he agrees to follow the rules, and if the CP still insists that he is Director then the CP will be breaking the rules."
OMFG I Fucking died
10/10 i lel'd
My sides will never be the same again.
Expandables Part 3, eSA edition. Coming soon to theatres and homes.
Oh and btw, it's probably time for a new forum, as this one is JUST silly.
Your pick guys.
You should check the facts before publishing an article based solely on incorrect assumptions.
Kiki changing my citizenship status had nothing to do with the actions taken against him, and when did I ever intimidate Cody?
I am sick of all this bullshit. After all the time and effort I have put in for the eSA community, this is how I am paid back? Thanks a lot everyone!
Seeing as so many people are apparently so unhappy, you can find somewhere else to complain about everything and run everybody down, which is all most of you ever seem to do instead of actually putting in some work and effort for the benefit of others.
Congrats Kiko! Hope you enjoy your hollow victory.
>Kiki
>Actually pretty kawaii name
What victory? Did you revert the changes that you did to me or something?
Also your tears are very delicious.
Very. Delicious.
Can't find the proper react. pic tho.
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http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5383/lgt1feb.png
Quite possibly reverting the changes?
I dunno. We'll see later.
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P.P.S Just read your whole comment and
"You can find somewhere else to complain about everything and run everybody down, which is all most of you ever seem to do instead of actually putting in some work and effort for the benefit of others."
I'm sorry but what now?
How has the new system been beneficial (that you imposed and i rebeled against) to anyone working in DoI and MoS? Just name one example.
P.P.P.S Also your tears are very delicious.
Very. Delicious.
Okay, i think i went a little bit overboard over here.
This is dumb, I was discussing this with Will earlier and the problem is that there's a fine line which has to be walked. What we are saying is: "Zansi, manage our forums" but at the same time, we'd like a little say in how it is. We'd like some input and for you to not be the supreme end-all, say-all ruler. Xavier made a good point about how Australia manages their forums.
I've expressed numerous times how appreciative I am of the forums, numerous people have even offered to help you with the money-aspect for running them.
As much as I like the forums, and think it is a great place to go, you have done this yourself by overstepping your boundaries in situations like this.
I'm just stopping by to read some good entertaining arguments, thanks everyone
Could be worse, Zansi could shout down the forums...
"Apparently, everybody is unhappy. So to make everyone happy, operations are suspended until and unless informed otherwise."
Oh. Oops.
lel
Which just even further hinders the government's ability to do its job. GG forum admin.
Don't need eAmericans spying on us anyways
I left the forum because I'm just sick of the forum, as for resigning from a cabinet position, that was in part because Nickerball said I should after I accepted someone as a citizen, and part because my discontent with the executive administration.
Cody, you only read what you want to read, did you ever thought to read the apology I posted afterwards when I found out that I was wrong? Funny how you accepted it before in a pm, but now you throw it back in my face as if I did not apologize to you. So stop playing the snot nosed kid here.
I never knew Nickerball was of such significance that you would care what she did or say, as this happened before I became Speaker.
Talk about reading what you want to read,
"in part because Nickerball said I should after I accepted someone as a citizen, and part because my discontent with the executive administration."
So excuse me, who exactly has the problem here, because if you read the whole statement past your name, It wasn't all about you. And I didn't think explaining a misjudgement in Wil's article was your face. He wrote something about me, I made a statement. So really whose acting like a snot nosed brat here?
I think it is you.
Wait a second, you're telling me that we have forums?????
Alright, let's move on now shall we?
Who's up for managing a forum?
I already said I could and would. And, if needed, would move back to eSA as a sign of good faith.
We do not need CoT licker here.
Right, because psuedo-TWO scum is better, eh jive turkey?
Butt out Leon, at least someone is trying to do something. What are you doing for eSA. You live in eSA but do nothing to help.
How about "Forum Cowboy"?
"The Lone Forum Ranger" as of now
Secretly i was always hoping i was wrong about that guy.
Stupid me.
FYI, the forum is back on, minus plenty boards...
Zansi/Al is acting like a dictator, he thinks because he runs the forum for the community he can do whatever he wants and thats not the case. I wasn't an advocate for moving to another forum but it seems Al doesn't let us any other choice. He thinks he can dictate how congress and government is run and who can be a member of government and that should never be the case. he runs the forum for the community and it's not the other way around, without the eSA community there is no forum.