EDEN or nothing...
Wallachian
As you all know, the "confederacy" idea was not very successful. Neither the CPs who attended the latest EDEN summit (yes all 4 of them) nor the EDEN HQ showed enthusiasm. Their point was that it would increase bureaucracy, idea I can actually agree with. Seeing how little interest an EDEN summit gives birth to, or to simply take a look at how "vivid" the EDEN military chat-rooms are, I guess such a complex idea is for some-other time or for somebody else. Definitely not right for an immature alliance, with immature country representatives and with even more immature EDEN HQ members.
Instead, our MC came with another proposal. If we can`t bring countries closer, if we can`t make them more interested in taking power in their own hands, let us take the power in ours. Point was to give more attributions to the EDEN Supreme Command structures while same time limiting its numbers, getting rid of the ballast and the people who don`t deserve to be there. And to that I can give the example of the EDEN HQ member Sturmmann for whom EDEN is nothing but a temporary umbrella, and who wouldn`t have a problem in leaving the alliance in case of a better opportunity appears. And that is the person who represents Bulgaria in the EDEN HQ. No comment.
Anyway, going back to what can we do in order to increase the power of the EDEN HQ and implicitly the unity of EDEN, one of the ideas was to start applying penalties to countries that disobey orders. This way we would make sure that another "secret" treaty between Croatia and Serbia or another war between EDEN country members (China) and EDEN-trial members (South Korea) would not happen again.
My proposal was to simply go to the core of the problem, the Treaty of EDEN and modify article 9, paragraph 2 from:
"2. If a Member feels that another Member has breached the terms outlined in this Treaty and brought prejudice to it's interests and automatically to the interests of the Brotherhood it can file an official complaint to the Command Council.
2.0.1. If such a complaint is filed the High Ranking Officials must take a vote to validate the accusation. The vote is considered to be in favor of the accusation if it meets a majority of over 66% votes [100% is considered to be all the CC members minus the Ranking Official representing the offender] thus confirming the Treaty violation.
2.0.2. The Member that is found guilty of said Treaty violation can choose to either repair the damage caused as decided by the Command Council or accept a Reprimand.
2.0.3. If a Member collects over 2 Reprimands in the course of 30 days the Supreme Commander is obligated to request a vote that terminates the offenders Member status as described in Article II paragraph 3.0.2."
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Paragraph 2.
If an EDEN Command Structure Official(Note: EDEN HQ Member) or a Country Member High Ranking Official (Note: Country President) feels that another Member has breached the terms outlined in this Treaty and brought prejudice to it's interests and automatically to the interests of the Brotherhood it can file an official complaint to the Command Structure Official responsible with the matter at hand.
2.0.1 If such a complaint is filed, the Command Structure Official will investigate the matter and decide whether a disciplinary action is deemed as necesary. In case the Command Structure Official reaches the conclusion that the Treaty has been breached or that the offender has acted against the interests of the Brotherhood it can apply a Disciplinary action in accordance with the gravity of the offense.
2.0.2 Decisions made by the Command Structure Official must be brought to the attention of the EDEN Commanding Structures and endorsed by it.
2.0.3 Like stated in the paragraph 2.0.1 the disciplinary actions to be taken are in accordance with the gravity of the offense. The Command Structure Official can decide to strip the Offender from exercising its EDEN rights (military, political, diplomatically) for a certain period of time, ranging from 3 days - in case of minor offenses, 7 days - in case of medium gravity offenses , to 14 days - in case of severe offenses.
2.0.4 From the moment the decision has been made, the Offender has 24 hours to register an appeal with the EDEN Supreme Commander in case he considers that the decision has been abusively taken. The EDEN Supreme Commander will be required to investigate the matter at hand and decide whether the disciplinary action taken by the EDEN Command Structure Official is valid or not. The EDEN Supreme Commander will take additional action in case needed.
To sum it up, apply penalties in accordance to the gravity of the mistake. If China put CoTD on SK instead of where the EDEN MC says, consider it as minor offense and give it a 3 day penalty during which they would not have the right to ask for EDEN military support. In case Croatia makes "secret" deal with Serbia consider it as a more serious offense and act in consequence.
Of course things look all right on paper. Problems appear when you actually talk the matter to the EDEN HQ where the others have their own ideas of course. Doesn`t much matter they won`t take any action. It`s enough that they don`t agree with you and so they will just delay the process or stop it altogether.
So the proposal was made more than a week ago. Some wanted different terms regarding penalties and so I asked them to write down their ideas so we can talk them through during the evening or the next day... 5 days later after getting no feedback I asked the EDEN SC Iaswn to implement the new penalties system in the Treaty of EDEN so we can start applying it. Of course that didn`t happen, our brave Commander, adopting the position of the ostrich, made it clear that he will take no measures against countries that act against our alliance interests.
Some might agree with him that showing good will is a way to keep everybody on friendly terms. However this didnt happen when the Croatian president signed that infamous treaty with Serbia about 2 months ago giving away Bosnia and opening Serbia`s doors towards the rest of the Balkans. The Bulgarians still haven't forgot...
So this is how our brave Supreme Commander sees fit to keep EDEN united, by doing enough as to not look like he is doing nothing.
Anyway, after this episode which took place on Tuesday or Wednesday, I left the EDEN HQ. There is no point for me to be there, to try and change things and see how nothing is done. To waste my time making plans or revising the EDEN treaty and to see how the people in charge don`t give a rat`s ass about it. Or how they conduct themselves by the motto "Let`s change! But let`s keep everything the same." 😉
And on a personal note. Regarding the rumors I keep hearing on the merge with Terra where they ask for a new name and structure. That is simply blasphemy. EDEN (despite retarded leadership) is still a family. We have the history others only dream of. We have tradition. We are by far the most famous alliance ever to be born. We are long-lasting and eternal. We survived for so long together and nothing and nobody can defeat us. The only ones who can destroy this dream is us. And I hope we will be smart enough for that to never happen.
Anyway this was just a hint for people like Sturmmann and others who see EDEN like a rotting corpse they should get rid of. This tree doesn`t bend as a few dry branches command. Respect EDEN or there will be hell to pay for!
EDEN or NOTHING!
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Go for Supreme Commander man, why not ? You can write and as I can see you speak English fluently, so if you are not ok with Iaswn grab the cance.
But dont forget the same SC was when EDEN was on top, the same is now.
Stop crying and play ball.
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vote o7
EDEN is still a family. \o/
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talks are cheap , try to wake up romania first and then talk about the other members
aristomaxos ...
what are you talking about?
EDEN or NOTHING!
i agree (=
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Wallachain if you care here's what the MC of ONE, your old friend staruszek 😛, thinks for EDEN.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/interview-with-staruszek-mc-of-one-bg-en--1811935/1/20
Good Luck
Nice article btw 🙂
waiting for some stupid croatian offical starts justifying peace with serbia, btw there are dozens of idiotic people in EDEN hq, who are there just bcs their egos like "high positions", they just idle around and pretend to be important , its easy to recognize them, they are the ones up high in chat rooms but somehow always idle
and btw its not like you wallachian do something instead of writhing "impossible utopian alliance articles" , I thought you were different but you didnt even reply on my pm and I had/have some ideas how to improve EDEN, but well... ONE will either improve EDEN or destroy it once for all
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btw staruszek even mentioned you in the interview. He loves you "soooo much" 😃
As does most of EDEN I think 🙂
@Zelja,
I always answer my PMs. You sure you sent it?
And 2nd - as "utopian" as I might sound, I actually tried to do all this. So guess it is not that "utopian" after all. It is achievable instead.
@EVERYBODY
Is it me or some think I was accusing countries?
No. Instead I am accusing lazy country officials & EDEN representatives.
Hope I`m clear now.
lets not start who brought EDEN in that position at the first place , who kicked poland and spain out , who wanted to be the "big one" in the alliance
wheres the "big one" now ? wake up and be EDEN and stop whinning
aristomaxos what are you smoking man?
who kicked poland and spain out?
they simply left, they had a different agenda
ah yes ok simply left blah blah
nobodys fault ... ok mate you are such a comedian
yea im sure, since its still in my outbox
and no, you idea is not achievable, at least not in that way, I dont want to write about this here, so if you want to talk query me on irc and thats it...
Greek troll hmmm.
troll ? troll ? what ? you dont like what you hear ? i dont give a damn if you are offended
"lets not start who brought EDEN in that position at the first place , who kicked poland and spain out , who wanted to be the "big one" in the alliance
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nobody kicked them it was their agenda for months and months, they were just searching for a good reason to justify their leaving, but they could only come up with "oh we dont like bogdan, he trolls us much on IRC, so we shall just join up with serbia and hungary"
not to mention that poland was inactive in EDEN for months and months, they were just kissing with hungarians in media, shouting about their RL brotherhood, it was just matter of time before they switched, they even tried to pull croatia with them to that alliance...
@aristababadibubi when all of your neihgbour ally countries - romania, bulgaria - were getting ass raped, you and your greek fellows were "conquering" Egipt. So gtfo with your moral standards dude.
the problem was that romania and poland wanted to be the boss in EDEN , poland left , romania won the race ... NOW where is romania ? as i said wake up and be EDEN
@alex dima , romanian troll hmmmm
I'm not a troll, i answered to a troll.
ok
hahhahahahhah
now if you please get the hell out of prekmurje and come to fight in some prio rw's
@ Alex, Zelja and Aristomaxos
Lets not jump at eachother throats. The point of this article was to simply show why EDEN goes from bad to worse.
Romania made mistakes, Croatia made mistakes, Greece made mistakes.
Question is, how to stop doing them?
And the only answer is this: force our leaders to care more about EDEN and our brotherhood than about their own selfish local interests.
well i am sorry you left HQ and desided to play "opposition" for the "good" of EDEN of course
nothing else , i shouldnt comment in a troll's article in the first place
not voted and unsubbed
thanks aristomaxos
buhbye
ah one more thing aristomaxos, i hear you`re good friend with iaswn.
and I have no problem with him just with the way he ruled this alliance - but to come and insult me because I criticized your friend is a bit childish, dont you think?
thats trolling mate ... the good wallachian , maybe you will call me trairor too or other names like you were doing with spain and poland back then
nice try btw
aristomaxos the defender of spoland lol, i might be wrong but you`re the only one doing the insulting and the trolling around here (;
feel free to get lost
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tl;dr really, make shorten version for lazy asses like me pl0x
@sandeRBG
short version: i dont see a way out of this mess
very short version: we`re f***ed
And BTW Wallie penalties and restrictions - is that the way you see the future of EDEN? If so you're a total fool! A union can't be hold together by restrictions. It has to be united by mutual aims and every member shuold feel the need to help the union in its fights.
Any member should me morally bound to its brothers in arms.
That can only be achieved trough diplomacy and coordinated talks with all EDEN countries, not by your fool talks about penalties and other stuff.
When ONE was erasing all EDEN countries you were spamming trough the EDEN HQ newspaper for our BRAVE MILITARY UNITS and othe nonsence, while you and your HQ colleagues should've gathered all EDEN forces and coordinated them.
That's why EDEN is dead, because it's ruled by FOOLS like you.
@Nikoicho
Not anymore. This fool has left the building.
So according to your philosophy, things should get better now.
GOOD! But there are still more like you there. Hope they'll have the dignity to resign too.
@nikoicho
yes we fools come in pairs,
luckily theres ppl like you to notice us xD
btw have you read my previous articles in which i was lobbying for the idea of a confederacy to give more power to the countries, to bring more country representatives in a common government, to reduce the power of the presidents and instead make a more cohesive union? basically to create a real BROTHERHOOD
did you knew all that?
or did you come here with one sole idea roaming through your square shaped empty head trying to prove what a smart arse you are and how you can put smbd in his places by talking about crap you have no idea about? I mean it took you less time to reach level 25 then me to visit the toilet.
tell me, do you still believe in the existence of pink unicorns or only in santa clause?
Yes I believe in unicorns, but the white ones, not pinkies.
And yes sadly I've read all your articles (actually your newspaper was one of the first ones I subbed to when I started) and I saw just how much they helped the union. GREAT ONES!
I maybe 25 lvl but I've seen enough to understand why EDEN is dead. When I started Bulgaria has just joined EDEN, so I've seen enough. Before ePoland and eSpain left (I do not care about the reason why they left) EDEN had eWorld's best on its side(I don't say they're the best), that was why it was dominating - by raw power and nothig was done do make the bonds between the countries stronger. If EDEN forces were coordinated better and was led by strong EDEN HQ leaders even the population number and the strenght of ONE couldn't have stopped it!
It's like if i do a crime, the police will not arrest me because they are afraid that i will leave the country when i get out of the prison.
Hail ENDEN 07
problem we all criticize each other and that is problem no inactivity or similar we all are to proud to learn from mistakes.
about spoland you can say romanians fault i ask you who helped serbs atack croatia?
Croatia problem stupid peace
Greece problems egipt adventure turkish peace so on.
Bulgaria problem weh its hard i cant remember good one xD
Romania problem they lets face it made to much enemies
and bigest problem is there was hali this hail that like one make now articles but players unions was and are key and in that part we failed.
players make alliance not states i fight for whom i want and where i want, that is reason why i fight for Greece Bulgaria Romania Ukraine Ireland,... in my mind im EDEN.
and about new alliance i want revenge with good friends i realy don't need more two face mates like epoland
"Wallachian
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@sandeRBG
short version: i dont see a way out of this mess
very short version: we`re f***ed "
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Of course we are, and the exact reason for that is this attitude:
"And on a personal note. Regarding the rumors I keep hearing on the merge with Terra where they ask for a new name and structure. That is simply blasphemy. EDEN (despite retarded leadership) is still a family. We have the history others only dream of. We have tradition. We are by far the most famous alliance ever to be born. We are long-lasting and eternal. We survived for so long together and nothing and nobody can defeat us. The only ones who can destroy this dream is us. And I hope we will be smart enough for that to never happen. "
Wake up and move over, EDEN is dead and there's nothing to do about it but forget it.
Same goes with TERRA, btw.
I am by no means one of those who agrees with what Radu Pangaiu says, but this time he's absolutely right.
and sometimes you need to destroy a house to build a skyscraper.
I told you it won't work, because all of the governments are inactive or shitty.