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Thank you Dear President, i hope they will hear your message. BELGIUM IS NEUTRAL and WANT TO STAY NEUTRAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's hope that EDEN SC and TERRA SC will allow eChina and eBrazil to sign a mpp with our country... These both countries already agreed to a deal, and we are just waiting for the approval of the SCs. I know there is an EDEN meeting tonight, so let's hope the situation will be solved in the next hours... If it is not the case, the message will be clear : "we don't respect your neutrality"....

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Bulgaria o7
Belgium o7

Be logic. We're not responsible for someone else decisions -> Switch neutrality focus : neutrality is proposing the same to every alliance, no matter how many are accepted.

We do not need to give up neutrality because other alliances are trying to provoke (!) us into joining an alliance. Imo the entire NL war setup was aimed at just that: to destroy our neutral credibility and give their alliance an excuse to attack us without consequences. Grow a set of balls please and do not give in to what others want from us. The referendum was clear, we want to remain neutral !

Dendraad come and do my job please. You tell people that they don't have daily orders because we can't set them because we want neutrality and two of the three alliances don't want to sign 🙂
Its easy to see all kinds of theories and set ups but what do you really know?

Serbia, China, Brazil and Poland should give you constant battles, those four can't easily fight each other.

Good spoken President !
I think we should consider joining an alliance, as we're already on the enemy-list of some alliances !

The enemies of my enemies are my allies !!

Nuts, ain't it?

anyone said nuts?

I think this article is not honest and we know Mitte is openly pro-ONE and very active in ONE politics. Terra/EDEN is pissed and I think justly so. This article failed to mention the Hun TW that lead to a wiping of a EDEN country. Instead of saying TEDEN is irrational and is holding you hostage, eBE did commit a misdeed be it intentional or not. I feel you are being extremely bias against TEDEN. I feel Mitte is setting the agenda to make eBE more pro-ONE with wordings like hostage, etc...

I think Konrad Neumann is openly against ONE and therefore will do anything in his power to try convincing eBelgians tha TEDEN has not openly despised them...

I think Gurriaton do not know history enough to see eBE involvement in Terra/EDEN missions that started tensions between BE and the alliances. As I could careless what alliance eBE joins, but I do not appreciate lies of neutrality extreme bias rhetoric without a self reflection. Are you saying that recent Hungarian aggression towards eNL because of of the so-called TW promote good relations with TEDEN?

Unfortunately, Konrad, the blacklisting by TEDEN predates the Hungarian TW. While I agree that did not look good for us as a neutral country, we were blacklisted by TEDEN because one of their own, eNL, attacked us without provocation. In the past year, we have also been attacked by France without provocation. It should not surprise TEDEN that we signed ONE MPPs in order to defend ourselves in those circumstances. Does TEDEN honestly think it is logical to blame us for what TEDEN members do?

Look at your past deeds, be it helping eVen against Portgual and Brazil to having another "TW" with France and France was invading UK. You can say you are pro-ONE. Just do it. I think most people are tired of this talk of neutrality while the government is helping ONE. If you are to join ONE since people like it more, just do it. Do not point fingers and say eBE are victims etc. You are not! You made your bed and Terra/EDEN is making you sleep in it.

I do not think it should surprise TEDEN that we stand by people who stand by us. If they want us to support them, they should not force us to depend on friends in ONE. It's as simple as that.

To hell with them - lets sign with ONE.

@mittekemuis excuse me for having an opinion ...

@dendraad : you have the liberty of expression.

@Mittekemuis : i know you are trying your best to keep our neutrality, nobody is perfect and in this game, it's hard to think about everything. You were happy to give us a TW.

@Konrad : you are making propaganda because in each country, gamers are different. You can't forget the referendum done. You know a lot of ebelgian's are fighting for the liberty of little countries. You must be honest.

x2 with what Jeiry said. If they ignore us, then we shouldn't whine and beg, but do our own thing instead, which is trying to stay uninvolved. And keeping an eye on staying uninvolved (by trying to avoid situations like the Hungarian TW, for example). Keep fulfilling the formalities by proposing MPP's to both sides, and let them make up their mind about us themselves, as long as our neutral conscience is clean.

We might also want to consider MPP'ing some other small non-alligned nations instead - they might be involved in battles less regularly, but even that is better than nothing and we'll be fighting for a just cause (as these nations are never involved in aggressive attacks).

Mittekemuis, you applied for that job and you were elected, so don't invite others to do it 😛
I know you wanted the best for this nation and I'm willing to believe that you're trying to act unbiased eventhough your sympathies may lie with ONE. But you took a gamble by approaching the Huns, and if we would just have had 10 days of TW merriment and bonusses all around, then you'd be the one getting all the praise. But since the coin flipped differently, be prepared to accept some criticism (;

I think it is very convenient. Timing seems perfect. You have your neutrality referendum and then there is a TW with the Huns which attacks an EDEN country. This is a great way to do land swap and claim neutrality. I think this is all too convenient and the timing is just too perfect. All Mitte did was oops sorry in one article and now blames that TEDEN is pissed and TEDEN is holding eBE as hostage.

Just so convenient. Timing is clockwork. I support MItte the person but not her policies.

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Konrad, we know what you think. We know you already have your mind fixed, and you just try to convince people, constantly looking at what's in favor of your beliefs, forgetting other arguments.
Everyone heard your point of view, now you can slow down and stop the brainwashing. Thanks.

I agree with Aldous' comments.

i love that eBelgium do not have to get the ok from no 'Big brother' to sign MPP's.

dendraad> u do have a "liberty" of expression, if ur opinion is not unpleasant for someone.

Konrad, we are trying to sign MPP with TEDEN for 7 weeks. Let me remind you that when eNL attacked us, we had a mpp with China and USA for several months in a row... We just want to go back to our old situation, having 4 mpps, 2 one 2 teden, and being neutral as our citizens want ! Now the question is : does TEDEN will allow us to be neutral or will they prefer to push eBE into ONE arms ? We will know the outcome pretty soon...

Like I said constantly, eBE as a strange way to define neutrality. 2-2=0. They try to show "neutrality" by MPPs and they send their MU's to different hot zones in the world. They fight against the French in their invasion of UK. They fight against Portugal and Brazil to protect eVen. You might of supported TEDEN actions but that is not neutrality. IN this case 2-2 does not equal to zero, but pissed of alliance.

It is not hard to understand.

I think eBE joining ONE would be a good thing for eBE. eBE is too often fighting against themselves on silly and trivia things. These are clear signs that the community is bored and there is nothing to do. Joining an alliance but in eBE's case, ONE due to eBE leadership would do good for the country.

Just do not BS about neutrality and blame it on TEDEN etc. Be honest and say it and we just like ONE more. No one will be outraged by that. People get mad with neutrality when is not neutral.

"Like I said constantly" - "constantly" - "CON-STAN-TLY" - ...

@Aldous & Jeiry: If they ignore us I will start signing other MPPs. EBelgium may not be big and powerful we have our pride. What you are suggesting is very unrealistic Aldous. First sign insignificant MPPs with countries who hardly have battles is a waste of money. Our younger players can't rank up if we can't give them decent fight. Yes our economical strong players don't worry about it. They travel and fight where they please. Some even don't bother with the daily DO...But I am not looking

Second avoid getting in situation like Hungary yes but avoiding all of the present situation we are in we can't.
We need fights and not only MPP fights. Do you see our neighbours? Do you see we happen to be at the centre of the biggest clash between TEDEN and ONE? How are we going to avoid that when we do NEED fights.

Yes Aldous I did apply for the job and you know very well that I don't take this job lightly. I made a mistake that will hunt me for a long time. Well sir if you don't take chances in life you don't get anywhere and that Aldous is where eBelgium is at...anywhere. I respect the voice of the people because I promised. I will not back down easely on a given word.

To conclude: If I can get us to sign TEDEN MPP I will be able to keep my word. When we are not able to do this I will take a different path.

Konrad al you are doing is trying to put doubt in peoples mind. Yes I did not put up the full story it gets boring by telling it over and over again. MaryamQ answered most of your concerns and I agree with what she says.

I never denied that I am a ProONE orientated player. The fact that I will not easily join a TEDEN country is the reason why I keep refusing their offers to join their country although I have friends on both sides.

Yes I do think EBelgium should do better to turn proONE. Being neutral might be the biggest challenge they will ever face and you always have sides in politics.

It is my believe that wanting to be neutral in an all out wargame that erepublik has become is nothing less than want finding Utopia.
But 60% from eBelgium wants to try and find Utopia and I am their leader so I do my best to find it.

example : i'm neutral because it was my role in the game and in ebelgium, if i'm going on a country who is in a alliance, i will follow the country. It's just a role.

Now we don't have to prove anything to Konrad. When we have a mpp, we are fighting for them, no doubts.

"Very unrealistic" is quite an exaggeration: signing an MPP with an insignificant nation would cost us 10k BEF (20k if we're generous), which is far from unrealistic if you take a look at our treasury or if you bear in mind that even one single person could sponsor that (I'm prepared to put my money where my mouth is). What you would get in return would be at least some MPP fights (opposed to none now), we'd be building a bridge to a fellow small nation who faces similar challenges as we do,

and we'd be sending a clear sign to the rest of the world that we really try to be a neutral and solidary nation. And that's worth something. Also, knowing that "we happen to be at the centre of the biggest clash between TEDEN and ONE", you still rushed into a risky TW which turned sour for our Northern neighbours and in a way for us as well. But we did have those True Patriot fights we "needed",eventhough now we don't have any fights at all and I'm not sure if a sustainable TW is on the horizon

Sorry for being a hard ass, but your passive aggressive defense provokes further ctiticism, so I really can't help myself (;