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https://www.erepublik.com/en/main/law/USA/224206

yes: 1 - that would be you

NO: 32
King Harambe
AlexPIT
KUMSALAB
hcmadman
Arctic Sunrise
tdwester
Stef40
Dinnyin
Andreas.Antoniou
wayoflife
H U L K
Supernana
Andy Dufresne
Ihsan the Magnificent
Derphoof
Miesha
Lil Jeep
Ike Boone
Master Sentinel
Buckwheat McCoy
Henry William French
T.J. SCOTT
Patrilum
Jd Jack Serenade
jadiv
zRTx
TheKnight9
babygoth
Mr_Pornstar
shiloh13
Zero Hurricane
shadowber

Who needs what? Plato, please ban the clones and their masters.

It was me, Sir. With all respects, I have explained this in the eUSA forum of Congress and I think many of us can freely check it there. Again, I apologize for that unplanned move.

Anw, I am not the clone or slave of anyone in this game.

1. bro u put a law without talking to your party at least - this was a mistake, first time in congres... it is normal... no harm done.

2. except u, all voted against, some including me give u a no of reasons why we can't put 2-3-4% on work tax --- but u made a article... explaining, what ???? - this is no mistake, is.... pls talk to some big boys in your party/mu thay will explain a littttttlllleeee more aobur eREP in our time 😃

I'm trying to convince the public about the significance this tax can bring. This will also become a benefit for those new players who are about to expand their business, where they can gain the tax return even higher than what they initially submit.

we have a lot of money allready who u do not use ...so, lets start with what u have, not with what will we have.. if ...

Proposals like that actually bring the body politic in eUSA together!

Seriously, I think the low tax environment has won the argument. It took years but look at the list above. It is one of the few things that everyone agrees on regardless of e-political affiliation.

I get your point Sir. In fact, I do love low tax.

If we want to implement "Zero Work Tax" for most people, there is no other way but take it and redistribute it back to all citizens. Notice that the currently implemented 1% rate is the lowest it can be in this game.

I am PP of WTP. I made the mistake of not educating our 1st time congressman. It appeared to be a rouge proposal. That was my mistake.
He has proposed this to Congress and is going above and beyond and proposing this to everyone else.
You might not like the idea and that is ok. But it certainly (if streamlined) supports Derps campaign promises.
So if you need to come at someone, come at me.

Respectfully,
Jenkins67

I'm sorry Sir for drawing you into this issue.

You didn't. And quit calling me sir 🙂

A 3% work tax would increase the amount I’m allowed to embezzle......

Well... it is up to the transparency of the government

In the spirit of transparency, Franklin Stone and Henry French accept my bribes

I am sorry for missing what you try to highlight. I will try to catch up with what has happened in the past.

Something given has no value!

If you give the new players things they will not value playing,


so i say this might back fire!

What we should do is the opposite, ta the new players more and give to the older well established players who know the value of playing!

JK you never let me down.

Lol are you serious? Tax in my proposal is meant to bring balance between those two extremes, not to punish the new players and let the old players get the whole package.

If you knew JK like I know JK....

I was a big fan of the combat orders when they were out to give to the division ne players who fought!

So i do love your proposal! However in the past when i was trying to encourage the use of combat orders for division one players. lots of people told me it was a waste , and so i got discouraged , and extremely hardened!

so now i only troll! maybe those players were just trolling me 🙂 and maybe in time you too will join the trolls!


I am not in congress, i do operate a semi large WAM operation. so i would love low taxes.

I do however feel a lot of new players get scammed by communes. so i think if you want to help new players, trying to set a minnimum wage. first would be better than trying to raise money to give them.

Average 1098.86 USD

market salary 1298 USD ,

about 20% of workers in usa are in a commune or being paid below market wage. so setting and adjusting the min wage would be the most helpful from my perspective.


taxing people more removes a lot of competition, which causes the larger producers to profit more from the market discrepancy, which would hurt new players more than the money given to them would help. because there is no way to automatically help new players. but taxes would automatically hurt all players (including the new)


sorry for the long comment. trolling is much less effort and yields the same effect 🙂

@chazp I wish I get to know all you better 🙂

@jkeller4000 So, instead of increasing the tax, you would prefer adjusting the minimum wage. In fact, our work tax today has been the lowest it can be (1😵. But, you're also making a strong point here. Should you have more specific suggestion on this minimum wage thing, please feel free to share it to us 🙂

I'm just a little producer, and all little producers prefere low taxes.
eUsa don't really needs money in this time, balance is really rich, there are tons of gold and cc in our country.
But if you really want to increase the outcome, you can think about increase the import tax to 90%, as many big countries already do. I often find our market full of offer of stranger people, above all houses, and strangers can ruin the economy of our producers. This is an old story and the proposal to increase import tax always failed, but it's a matter to talk again, on me.

I just added one paragraph into the article:

To summarize my idea, this proposal is basically about implementing "Zero Work Tax" for most of our citizens since the tax we submit will be given back to us (even higher than what we initially submit).

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@Mister Y
I understand your point. We are not here to cause harm to the business owners. However, we also need to understand that this program is basically about submitting the tax and receiving it back in a different amount.

So, instead of only giving 3%, we may receive our tax back in a slightly higher/lower amount.

The idea of infreasing taxes to increase the amount you can give back to the citizens doesn’t make sense to me. Just don’t take the money in the first place. There is nothing wrong with our current tax rate

Our current work tax is 1% and, mechanically, it cannot be any lower. The only idea we can make it zero for most of the players is through taking and giving it back.

Omg. Never received such aid. Remove all the taxes. Ppl decide want to do with their own money.

We basically cannot remove it. 1% is the minimum work tax we can set.

My advice to you if you're struggling to make $ in erep is to start your own businesses. Don't rely on the government to make your money.

I understand your point, Sir. I just added an additional paragraph about how this program is actually the implementation of "Zero Work Tax" for most people.

The problem is that once government gets money, it is gone.

In governments defense, there isn't a whole lot you can do with money in the game these days; COs have been disabled, gov run communes, MUs, aid programs, etc. have proven to be problematic and controversial. Large reserves in case of invasion have proven ineffective.

THE BEST WAY TO HELP AMERICAN PLAYERS IS TO CHARGE MINIMUM TAXES AND GET OUT OF THE WAY OF THE PLAYERS!

I understand your point. But given the fact that our tax is already the lowest it can be (1😵, we cannot make it zero unless we take it and redistribute it back to all citizens.

Sorry, it is 1%.

3% would kill the economy. Employees aren't profitable and so is WaM. No production, no tax income. No production, no fighting.

The tax is basically given back to all the citizens in a manner that everyone gets the average value. Notice that all citizens are profitable from the works done by the foreign workers.

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Let's say a Company does 50cc in profit, WT is about 13,33cc per %: Currently you would earn 36,67cc in profits. Good enough.

If the WT is now 3%, you would pay 40cc in Taxes and your profit is 10cc per work. The tax reimbursment when there are 200 active citizens is 0.2cc. So you get 10,2cc per work instead of 36,67. That's not a really great motivator anymore to produce instead of fighting. Sure, others will get more money from your work aswell, but that might not motivate some people enough.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1364661313001216

Also to fight you'll then use weapons & food made by foreign producers because there won't be any producers left in eUSA.

In RL, I'm all for high taxes for the rich F-ers but in this not so realistic game, you'll just destroy your country.

I get your point. Thanks for showing us great example and calculation. Do you think there is another better formula? For example, 2% instead of 3%.

I love how no one is arguing that this wouldnt be effective. People are only complaining about how they wouldnt be as rich.

I would love to know your perspective 🙂 Fyi, I just made an additional paragraph which explained how this proposal is actually the implementation of "Zero Work Tax" for most citizens.

This is a bad idea for the many reasons others have stated. A logical idea but to increase taxes for no reason, without thought of the consequences is not thought out. Also it's at 1% because that is what is best for all at the moment.

Sir, 1% is the lowest it can be now. If we want to implement "Zero Work Tax" for most citizens, the only way is to take the tax and redistribute it back to everyone.

Then why increase it?

With higher work tax rate, we can redistribute the average value with significant impact to the low-level players since they will receive the most benefits. I propose 3% as a good start to see the impact in the macro-economy scale.

The logic here just seems flawed.. take more to give more is just ridiculous when we already don’t spend all of the amount of taxes we currently take in

Let's say we have 3 million in our treasury now. This program certainly does not reduce that amount, but it absolutely works if we consider to stop taking work tax since we redistribute what we receive from work tax in the future.

In average, we will have x amount of money come into and out of the treasury every month. At the end of the year, we do not add anything to that 3 million from our work tax.

How we spend that 3 million is entirely another issue.

What if we raise the work tax to 3% and all the companies leave the eUS ? What if it causes another country to try to PTO us and destroying the stability that has allowed us to collect money steadily at 1% .. Have you thought of any of this?

Thanks for highlighting some major considerations which we need to put into this concept. Tbh, I haven't thought about the potential of PTO. Here is a proposal of mine. I do hope that you guys share your ideas to either improve this concept or else to campaign for an even better idea.

"Low-level players" is a very subjective term. Not to mention, many "low-level players" don't last long in the game, so basically high level players would lose more money, which would kill production and the economy.

This idea is way too similar to socialism to work in a capitalistic game such as this. It's as simple as that.

I see your point. In my perspective, low-level players account to those who will gain profit if they receive the redistributed work-tax back.

So, it does not necessarily refer to a specific group of people. It is a dynamically changing group of people as we implement this concept. As time goes by, those group of people who have gained profit from this program might become the "donor" and therefore we have a healthier community.

you're welcome for this current low tax

sincerly,
-everyone who worked on Resource Wars 2016