Why not Moldavia?
Kasius
If you take a look at the history of annexation in the world, it wouldn't take long to realize that a decent number of countries have lost their independence as a result of war. If you looked harder, it might take you even less time to realize that the aggressors have, sadly, quite often been members of Atlantis. That's what makes the current war so confusing for a lot of people. It's frankly a bit hypocritical.
Take, for example, the territorial expansion of Norway. They've invaded Russia and Finland. Luckily, Finland has gotten its independence. Russia has managed, through fierce war, to get back a couple of its regions.
Then take a look at Sweden, which has invaded and annexed Denmark and taken a good portion of Germany away.
Then take a look at Romania, a nation that has stolen the land and freedom of both Moldavia and Ukraine.
It's really not a pretty picture for Atlantis. It doesn't mean that we're a bunch of inconsiderate jerks, but it certainly doesn't leave us with room to talk about the freedom of the Swiss either.
So sometimes I wonder if Swiss independence is really our ultimate goal in this war in France. It seems a bit odd, considering the French and Italians performed their invasion over seven months ago. Our reaction is a bit late.
But regardless of what our actual intentions may be in Europe, I don't think that Swiss independence needs to be guaranteed through war, nor do I believe that Swiss independence should even be at the top of the list of things to work on. The French and Italians took half a country a piece, while Turkey has expanded its territory into two countries, Israel and Greece. That deserves just as much, if not more, focus.
And to start with, I do not believe that confrontation with PEACE is the best way to go about starting to liberate the crushed nations of the world. We should start by talking to our allies in Atlantis. The independence of Switzerland is no more important than the independence of Denmark or Moldavia or Ukraine, and just as the territorial integrity of those three countries has been violated, so has that of Germany and Russia. We could free a lot more of the world talking to our allies than we can hope to do fighting France and Italy.
So why not Moldavia? Why not Denmark? Why not Ukraine? Why not the rest of Russia? Or the rest of Germany?
Maybe we won't ever get a clear answer to these questions. And maybe these nations will never be made independent or have their full territorial integrity reestablished. But we can do more than hope. We can work. When the next Congress takes power, more than just shaking fists should take place. And the standards that we are trying to bring through war to France and Italy should be brought through diplomacy to Norway, Sweden, and Romania.
Have a great holiday season, everyone!
- Kasius
Comments
A great article with an even better point!
1) Indonesia, a PEACE nation now controls huge amounts of South East Asia, so it's not just Atlantis nations attacking everyone.
2) The liberation of the Swiss, like the liberation of any nation, takes time to plan out, so yes, France and Italy invaded a long time ago, but without proper planning and the ability to wage resistance wars we could never fully liberate the Swiss.
3) As far as questioning the motives of the war, I hate to tell you that you're a little late. A lot of people did that when the war started so while I commend your willingness to question authority, I'm sad to say that question has already been raised and debated, to no successful conclusion.
Sorry to burst you bubble but, I believe Moldavia was a planned union.
Why not take over mexico? Not like they have a big army to stand against us! Plus we then are near enough our other ally in South America!
It was Moldova, not Moldavia (There are 2 different provinces of historical Romania), and it was a union. Refferenda have been held both in Romania and Moldova, and it's really p!ssing me off to see people still b!tchin' 'bout what happened, people who have no idea about eRep or RL History...
referenda made by romanians people on both side... bah
Good point
We should admit, not all PEACE and Atlantis members have a clean record regarding invasion
btw Indonesia controls most South East Asia since Indonesia is the largest country in South East Asia, the other is Thailan😛 we still have Thailand right?
Australians or South Afrikans never consider themselves as part of South East Asia
Moldavia is a very debatable issue, I agree. You could argue the fact that it was planned, or you could argue the fact that it likely would have lost its independence regardless of whether it accepted the proposal, just as Ukraine did the next month. Ukraine was offered annexation as well so that they could be integrated into Romania at little cost to the Romanians. When they refused, they were taken violently.
So perhaps a better name for the article would have been "Why Not Ukraine?" or "Why Not Denmark?"
I wouldn't say PEACE has been the nicest bunch of folks either. I think that there is a general standard in the world that territorial expansion is acceptable. The point wasn't to say that PEACE is completely innocent but to say that Atlantis has not earned the right to police against expansion when it does the same thing.
Neil, your second point made me laugh. Seven months to plan this invasion? Oh my God guys you are either liars or incompetent army officers/soldiers.
Well, honestly, the latter has already been proved on the battlefield. Nevermind.
Just to set the record straight, Romania is voting to declare war to Russia (wow, got freedom back just to lose it again - to another atlantis nation), and right now they are winning. By tomorrow you'll see another war popping up.
Also, Romania has invaded Hungary and taken a good chunk of it.
Furthermore, Sweden also invaded Poland.
Pakistan also invaded China and India, although they are both free again, even though partly.
As Japan invaded Korea, which is now going to become indipendant again.