Why eIreland has it wrong: or why we should leave Real Life at the door!
Day 826, 13:58
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by Free Britain
Ever since EDEN forces attacked and occupied eUK sovereign territory, it was inevitable that some move would be made on eNorthern Ireland by her southern cousins. And a bold move it was, one which should be congratulated, and used as an opportunity to give the eIrish something to do. For so long now, eIreland has wallowed in a pit of despair and boredom. You had the chance to weigh in on the invasion of eUK (either for EDEN, or for Phoenix and eUK) and you didn't. Instead you talked and debated...and then talked some more! So it is no surprise that you attacked eNI and took it from eNorway.
However, your motivations are all wrong! Many of you claim some link to eNI based not on in-game mechanics or realities, but based on real life. Within the context of this game, eNI was NEVER a part of eIreland. You have no moral or sovereign claim to the northern part of Ireland, at least when viewed through game mechanics.
So what then is the claim? I think it would be fair to say that for many, the claim is based on real life issues. Issues which even now, run very deep within the soul of Ireland (both north and south). Issues which should not be exploited in a GAME. Most, if not all of us, come to this New World, because it is a game, it is an escape from the reality of our world. It is an escape from the pressures of work, school or home life. It is an escape from the conflict, war and death in the real world, for in the New World, no one can die, and there are no victims in wars here, apart from the slight upheaval that is caused for a few months. To bring real life issues, especially ones so fraught with tension, into this game is quite frankly idiotic and irresponsible! Regardless of where you stand in real life, whether you be Republican, or Unionist, southerner or northerner, should not matter here.
As far as admins and game mechanics are concerned, eNI belongs to eUK. For that reason, all sensible, right thinking people, who wish to banish the harsh reality of life from this game, and enjoy this place, should fight for the Resistance. Those who bring real world politics into this game are idiots!
As an aside, if eIreland wanted a war of conquest, that is a different story. You can take your chances and juke it out with the eUK, and good luck to ya. But eNI is not yours, and you have never had, nor never shall, have any sovereign or unalienable right to it.
In the words of a great philosopher; GTFO!
Vive la Resistance!
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"You have no moral or sovereign claim to the northern part of Ireland, at least when viewed through game mechanics."
But, morality and sovereignty mean completely different things in this game to in real life. So, maybe you are bringing real life into the game.
Whilst I take your point on board, it seems a little 'nitpicky' does it not? There is a difference between such concepts as morality (and what they mean here and in the real world) and someone's right to 'own' land in an online browser game, especially when such land was never theirs to begin with.
Certain moral standards still remain true here, as they do in the real world. So I would suggest that it's not bringing real life into the game, just the recognition that some concepts remain the same, regardless if you are in the real world, or an online game.
lol.... alienable right..... lol
Spelling mistake 😮
What a stupid and pointless article. Your propaganda is typical Brit, and not even good typical Brit.
Yes RL should be left out of the game, but there are still humans playing this game. There will always be some real life brought in, no matter where you live RL or eLife.
Northern Ireland is and without Admin change, will always be eUK origional territory. It is also bearing of the name Ireland and on our eIsle. There is an obvious reason the Admins made it this way. They wanted a point of contention.
If they didn't want it that way, they would have named NI something without Ireland in the name. As it is you are now on our Isle so you can GTFO!
Ní neart go cur le chéile!
I can't speak for others, but my own involvement in the war is not driven by RL politics. I don't lose any sleep over a British flag flying over Belfast. (IMHO) The most important thing in RL is putting an end to the violence and criminality, not a line on a map.
That being said, this is a game... I'd like to be able to play it without all the baggage of RL spilling over into the game. Originally I opposed the battle for NI against Norway, as I allowed my RL hangups to influence my opinion. Now I am just happy for the activity generated, I'll fight to keep NI, but not because of some RL republican, manifest-destiny rhetoric.
I'll fight to keep it, because it's fun to do so.
*End of Rant*
If I read this and other articles right, some people of the Republic of Ireland claim rights to eNorthern Ireland based upon a real life belief that Northern Ireland should be part of an united Ireland. In real life, Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom (as wanted by the majority of Northern Irish people), despite the 'claim' of the South. Whether or not Northern Ireland should be part of an United Ireland is not in the real life political agenda - at least not in the north or the english parliament. The Republician can 'claim' Northern Ireland as much as they like, it isn't a correct claim to date.
In terms of eRepublik, Northern Ireland is recognised as part of the original native lands of the eUK...
In neither real life, nor in eRepublik, does players of EIRE have a valid claim for eNorthern Ireland. It can, in game terms, declare war on Northern Ireland for empire building reasons and that is fine. I've seen a few articles stating the eEIRE should look to keep eNI as part of a belief eEIRE should have eNI as they should in real life - that is the invalid argument that I believe Free Britain is highlighting...
That pic is my screensaver!
"What a stupid and pointless article. Your propaganda is typical Brit, and not even good typical Brit."
What a stupid and pointless comment you made 🙂
And FYI, it is named Northern Ireland in game, because that is what it is called in real life! What a stupid thing to say to justify a war! And saying it us yours because it is on your island can work both ways! How would you feel if eUK used same justification to attempt a take over of eRoI?
John, I have no problem in eRoI deciding to attack eNI and go to war with eUK. A war of conquest is not the problem. Trying to create some activity and fun is fine with me. However, it is the justification that some within eIreland are using is what causes some concern! I am merely pointing out that it is a very poor reason to drive your in-game desires (for some), especially when real life people have suffered because of those same real life desires.
>If they didn't want it that way, they would have named NI something without Ireland in the name. As it is you are now on our Isle so you can GTFO!
LOL, so by your logic New England should be part of England.
"That pic is my screensaver!"
I had a quick glance at that pic and typical Northern Ireland, I know one of the guys in it!
Free Britain - I agree with you whole-heartedly on that point. RL should be checked at the door, however we live in an imperfect world with imperfect people, it would appear that the eWorld is equally imperfect.
Calm down lads - its a game - lets not forget that - silly article to put up in the first place btw - by discussing it you are inviting comparisons with RL - lets remember its a game and leave it there
@Matt Smidley There is no eEngland and no territory of New England. What are you talking about?
@Cpl: You are aware that Ireland is a geographical term and this part of it is in the northern quarter? That's why it's called Northern Ireland.
What about Baja California or New Mexico, then? IT'S IN THE NAME. OMG! YOU OCCUPIERS!
This is the most absurd argument to want NI I've ever heard. Srsly.
We arent attacking NI because of RL dummy. We are attacking it because its fun!
Its YOU that is bringing RL into this assuming that we are.
We all know that NI is NOT an original eIrish territory....you are preaching to the choir.
Lighten up!
It's a GAME lighten up give us a good fight
GAME ON 😉
I don't drag politics into it. I look at it from a very basic viewpoint: It's a part of the island, and our island looks better united under one color as opposed to having a large chunk of it belong to someone else. It's like having a friend put his hand on your wife's ass...laying claim on a small piece of what should logically be yours. Unless your wife has an enormous ass, then the proportions would be a bit different.
I'm joking, but you get the idea. It's a game, and the basic fact is: the Irish citizens wanted North Ireland to be a part of the rest of the island. And here we are, so let's have fun with it.
What a stupid and pointless comment you made +1
It's impossible to leave RL out of this game as even though Ireland is highly under the influence of Americans, eIreland is mostly full of RL Irish people. Just as eUK is mostly RL Brits and so on.
The way we live in RL is obviously going to come through although it would certainly be nice if we could leave some of the nasty stuff out of this game
Cpl Useless I can't help but notice just how fitting your name is.
KBO - Keep the Beggers Off
Yes keep RL at the door because it has obviously in no way, shape or form shaped the eWorld we see today
*rollseyes*
True RL has shaped the eWorld, borders, original territories, maps etc.
But it doesn't need to dominate or drive everything we do. Can't two groups have a fight, simply because they are bored and it's fun.
RL doesn't have to be involved
In the game Ireland owns Northern Ireland, just as Norway had it before us.
I think the point being made is that for some people, they want to attack eNI as they see it as theirs (whether it is in RL or in the New World). This isn't right as IRL, real people have been affected by the issues in Northern Ireland. To bring rampant republicanism is perhaps a little tasteless (as would be the case if it was rampant loyalism).
When I see people with pictures of IRA men, that makes me stop and wonder for a moment...
Failed article.
Excactly because its a game you can do whatever you want, besides cheating. You can have whatever reasons to attack someone because, thats right, its a game.
So failed article from failed Brits.
No RL stuff in eRepublik?
There are RL borders for christ's sake!
Without RL stuff, this game is just a dick size comparison contest between the top class of players in government, nothing more...
I think a line has to be drawn somewhere Brian (excuse the pun). It makes a certain amount of sense to start countries off relative to the territory they occupy in the real world, or else it wouldn't really be a simulation of the real world. But for many things, thats where the comparison should end.
Like I said, the point is, people (real people) suffered in Ireland over the course of the Troubles, and some people (not all, but a significant few) are using the real life politics in order to justify the New World invasion.
Sure, invade eNI for fun and activity, but don't do it because you have some notion that the real Ireland has been hard done by, and you want to exorcise some of that here. And like I say, when I see guys using pictures of IRA guys, it really does have to make me wonder! This IS a game, and many come here NOT to be reminded of real life.