We Want MPP with Argentina [Update = Pedas]
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psy_cho
Harus diakui kita belum dapat membuat MPP dengan Argentina, karena akan berpotensi gagal. Mengapa? Karena USA dan Argentina masih mempunyai MPP. Karena kita masih memegang inisiatif serangan ke USA, kita tidak akan bisa membuat MPP dengan Argentina bertahan lama karena akan langsung putus begitu Indonesia menyerang USA.
Jadi bagaimana agar kita bisa membuat MPP dengan Argentina? Sengaja mengalah. Setelah kita memijit / auto attack USA, segera propose MPP dengan argen. Setelah itu, jangan di hit / dibiarkan kalah. Bila kita kalah dan inisiatif di USA. Begitu USA menyerang Indonesia, maka justru MPP USA dan Argentina lah yang terputus.
Ada pepatah kalah dalam pertempuran demi memenangkan peperangan. Toh target kita adalah mengejar USA di Alaska sebagai benteng terakhir USA.
Namun ada resiko dari pilihan ini. Begitu USA mendapat inisiati, mereka dapat langsung menghajar papua (region asli kita yg berbatasan dengan Hawaii). Walaupun kemungkinan sangat kecil Terra akan memfokuskan kekuatan disana mengingat kekuatan Brazil, France dan USA yang sudah compang-camping.
To Indonesia Gov : Choose wisely.
PS :
1. Sejak kapan Indonesia jadi kacung ONE?
2. Sejak kapan kata2 "Brothers" hanya jadi lips service?
3. Apakah brothers > ally masih berlaku?
4. I will fight for my brothers Argentina just like i fight for my other brother Hungary, Serbia and Turkey.
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1. MPP yang disarankan disini bukan masalah politik. f*ck politics. Maksud ane, mana kata2 Brothers huh???? Begitu diminta tolong langsung ragu karena masalah politik sama ONE?
Tolong mendiknas bikin seminar tentang pentingnya MPP dan kenapa MPP > mobile apalagi dengan peraturan MPP seperti sekarang.
2. Jadi logika orang2 dan sapi2 yang ngomong "kalau mau bantu mobile aja ga sah ribut". Sekalian aja Indonesia ga udah bikin MPP. Kalau emang orang2 Serbia sama Hungary mau bantuin mereka mobile kok. Kan true friends.
Ini bukan masalah politik, tapi Argentina ga bakal survive tanpa MPP Indo. Mana ada suatu negara biayain 8000 rakyatnya dan sapinya buat defend negara lain huh???????? Emang murah???????
3. Sekalian perbaiki hubungan sama ONE
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Bro if you are able pls come to IRC, I can't find anybody from Indonesia since days.
Kalau mau tahu siapa yg kirim (salah satu orang ONE), PM ane. Ga usah banyak pencitraan. Itu yg dikirimin ane yg notabene warga biasa. Sampai2 akhirnya ane yg ngobrol sama dia.
🙁
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Kalau tiap kali dikasih masukan, kritik dan dibantuin dibilang ababil dan mengganggu, bilang aja. Ane ga bakal kasih kritik atau masukan ke gov sama sekali setelah ini. Ngapain pula masuk2 istana.negara dan bantuin kayak kemarin malam kalau jatuh2nya kayak gini.
Kayak kasus Met*o TV yang dilarang mendapat informasi dari kementrian2 gara2 sering kritik S*Y. Ini baru ngomong baik2 dah dikatain ababil. Brothers cuma lip service doang dan kalau butuh doang.
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pertanax fail!
bah, cepet banget si sekaipuri
ketigaxxx....
Mengutip kata2 seseorang di artikel gw, Berisik lo, Terserah pak pres lah mau ngapain, kita jadi rakyat mah ikut aja
yg gw rasa sejak masa tinkerbella, pres itu cuma boneka dari orang2 diktator yg ada di belakang layar..
masalah kecil digede2in
tipikal indo+n banget
hail sinetron
I will fight for my brothers Argentina just like i fight for my other brother Hungary, Serbia and Turkey.
eh btw kan kita udah gak NE sama USA, masih bisa Propose gak?
kalo bisa langsung Propose aja~~
@canester
ga bisa. Masih ada yg namanya "auto attack". Selama belum ada peace treaty atau bordernya hilang, bakalan terus2an war ~_~
/me tendang canester biar dikasih les perang sama dika sebelum nyapres
eIndo disuruh mengalah di battle??
oooo... tidak bisa...
/me pertama kali bersedia jadi mercenary war di Argentina dan siap jadi mercenary lagi kalo ga ada MPP sama eArgent . .
good to know... but
"4. I will fight for my brothers Argentina just like i fight for my other brother Hungary, Serbia and Turkey"
Do you realize that fighting for Argentina X Peru you are fighting against ONE (Huns, Serbians, Polish and Spain)?
@kakek
terus masa diem aja? 😐
@aritex
We're not some country who used brothers as empty words.
@psy_Cho: oooo, ane baru tau kudu Peace Traty dulu :hammer
lagian kan ini Masuk ke Mecha Alliansi, : P
eh tp kan NE kita udah ganti ke kanada...., dan Pasti Auto Ke USA berenti kan? CMIIW
ntu Arizona ama California kagak jadi di lepas om psy_cho? katanya mw dikasih ke Hung?
@jojack
arizona dah dilepas, katanya ostin sih bentar lagi california mau dilepas juga
@canester
salah, kita akan auto attack USA dan canada. NE itu cuma free DoW dan bonus influence, sama bonus train. Tapi auto attack itu ga tergantung NE. Selama masih open war, bakalan auto attack.
Agree and Vote
/me nyimak erepkul dari saiko
kirain ini korannya BM 😛
Argentina wants to destroy Peru, which is a ONE affiliated country.
That's not acceptable.
All that Argentina really could need from Peru is 1 oil region. They don't need nothing more. Peru was ready to accept that, but Argentina didn't. They just want to destroy Peru and they want to help Brasil. I repeat: Destroy Peru and help Brasil. That's their foreign policy.
All that Spain, Peru and ONE is asking from Argentina is to leve Peru in peace (they can have the oil region) and stop cooperating with Brasil. I think it is a very reasonable demand.
However, the Argentinians have rejected it any agreement. They still want to completely destroy Peru and support Brasil. And some Indonesians are helping them do this.
I don't think that's neither logical nor reasonable. It's crazy. It's treason.
In any case, that's not tolerable. And we have a very good memory in Spain about unfriendly acts.
Think about it.
Maegalodonus
I still believe we can achieve peaceful agreement about South America coflict. We agree at some point that Brazil use Argentina to make conflict between us, it is regretable. We're happy to continue our cooperation. We help Spain, Poland in USA, France campaign and defend Serbia, Hungary.
We do have common enemy, but Argentina is our brothers. We will help you like you help us except to our brothers.
Plus that mesopotamia is Argentina NATIVE REGION, how can we're not helping Argentina? just like when you try to liberate Peru native region.
/me in argentina and fight for argentina now o/
@psy_Cho : ow gitu yah om thx hehehe : D
Psy_cho
1)We want peace with Argentina.
2)Peru is ONE affiliated country. They have also fought for ONE and FOR INDONESIA, as many of them have been in Spain for months.
3)Argentina only needs oil from Peru. Peru can accept that.
4)Argentina wants to destroy Peru and support Brasil. That's their policy. And it's not going to change if Indonesians keep supporting them. You're being manipulated.
5)Your fighting for Argentina is a waste of damage in other fronts.
6)This is a game we all can play. If some Indos go fighting for Argentina, then some Spanish and mates can eventually go fighting for China too.
Nobody wants that. The solution is that Argentina accepts peace with Peru and stops supporting Brasil. And they can have the oil region, yes, no problem. But Indonesia should put pressure on Argentina to solve the problem, not to complicate things even more.
I think it's VERY REASONABLE. Otherwise, shit will eventually happen, I'm afraid. And we don't want that, but we're not gonna let the Argies destroy Peru for the lulz and keep helping Brasil.
That's not acceptable.
Indonesia needs to evaluate their policy regarding this issue and put pressure on Argentina. Some Indonesian people are complicating things.
argenn, argen, argeeenn.. ingin ku ke sana..
Messi, messi, meeessiii.. ingin ku bertemuu 😛
@Maegalodonus
as long as the war is open, i will continue helping one of our oldest ally eArgentina..
if we get wiped because of that then at least we go down for the right reason.. o7
/me gantung canesten,,,,, nanya dsini....kek gw gk isa lo tanyain nyet...hemmerr
ndengerin pelajaran dr mastah2
/me nubi nongkrong di pojokan sambil makan keripik
@Gabriel Valentine
So your point is that you are gonna help Argentina destroy a ONE country that only wants peace, and help Argentina support Brasil, which is another enemy of ONE and of Indonesia too.
And you call that "the right reason".
Nope. That's not a right nor moral reason.
btw, if the war is still open is only because of people like you. The day the Argentines realize they will get no support from people from Indonesia, war will be over and a reasonable peace will be possible.
@Maegalodonus
First of all i understand your point of view to help your close friend (Peru)although Peru is not ONE member.It's very logical to help our friend. But here is the difficult part, Indonesia also has brothers, one of them is Argentina. Rigt now Peru is attacking Argentina core region, how can a man let his brothers down?
I support peace between Argentina and Peru. Personally i hope Indonesia gov can actively talk with both saide (Argentina and Peru). Too bad they're slacking lately. But until peace is achieved, i hope both of us can hold our weapon and respect each country (Argentina and Peru) core region.
I have many friends in ONE and Argentina, and i'm sure peace is acceptable for both side. At least both of us agree that our major problem would be Brazil. Focus at main problem and don't let this accident make our coordination worse and provide opportunity for Eden and Terra to strike back.
@Maegalodonus
you have all the right logic..
but sometime helping a brother doesn't require that much thought..
i will be there for my family even if my family did something wrong..
surely i want ONE and Argentina to reach an agreement.. but until that day come i will offer my help when its needed.
@Maegalodonus
First of all i understand your point of view to help your close friend (Peru) although Peru is not ONE member.It's very logical to help our friend. But here is the difficult part, Indonesia also has brothers, one of them is Argentina. Rigt now Peru is attacking Argentina core region, how can a man let his brothers down?
I support peace between Argentina and Peru. Personally i hope Indonesia gov can actively talk with both side (Argentina and Peru). Too bad they're (my gov) slacking lately. But until peace is achieved, i hope both of us can hold our weapon and respect each country (Argentina and Peru) core region.
I have many friends in ONE and Argentina, and i'm sure peace is acceptable for both side. At least both of us agree that our major problem would be Brazil. Focus at main problem and don't let this accident make our coordination worse and provide opportunity for Eden and Terra to strike back.
The thing is spaniards like Megalodonus don´t know what brotherhood is... why do we support Brazil? for the same reason we support Indo and Turkey even when we where in opposite alliances... BROTHERHOOD! Honor... we have that. Perú is just TO nest for poles and Spain, and they use it know and will always use to endanger one of our brothers... so we fight.
We would do the same if it was Australia or Greece... that´s what brotherhood means. Not "thanks in the best, see ya in the worst".
/me nyimak ahh
:iloveindonesias
psy_cho
>"But until peace is achieved, i hope both of us can hold our weapon and respect each country (Argentina and Peru) core region."
That's exactly what we want: Peace and agreement. However the Argentines don't want peace. They want to destroy Peru and help Brasil. It's as simple as that. What do you expect us to do??
And regarding Ash's comments, who is spewing typical lies and says that in Peru "there are only Spanish and Poles PTOing the country" I invite people of Indonesia to go to the Peruvian press, to articles like this http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/el-renacimiento-de-per-uacute--1809711/1/20 and see how many people are in fact RL peruvians and what they think of the situation.
And remember that the peruvians are also your friends, Indonesia. And all they want is live in peace free of Argentinian imperialism and colonisation.
If even Indonesia can make a deal with an enemy like Australia, which is in EDEN, how come Peru, a pro-ONE country which is a friend and an ally cannot have some regions for themselves? Just because the bros of the brasilians want to impose their tiranny on them???
what's this? O_o
who's attack first?
don't help argentina and peru either. it's good choices.
@Ash: The only TO in sudamerica is in Bolivia. The argentinians destroyed both the country and the bolivian comunity with this TO. Insulting and trolling the RL bolivians.
@Kapten Muslihat: Argentina and Brasil conquered Peru and kept it under control for months. I think it is also considered an attack.
@degarahan: It could be the best choice for the indonesians.
Lagi bales2an pantun yah? Hehehe japri aja gih.
hm,.... so there is an agreement between this 2 countries.
i think both country should sit together, talk, but invite us (bia and one) as spectator 😃
let us be wise guys...
klo mau nolong gerakin pantat kelen terbang kesana
jangan bikin posisi negara jadi gak jelas konstelasinya
klo jadi MPP posisi indo mundur dari pro one makin gak jelas
klo kalian mo mengubah peta politik saat ini berjuanglah di next election, tp klo kalah jangan jadi bikin aneh2 macam ababil
klo mau nolong gerakin pantat kelen terbang kesana
jangan bikin posisi negara jadi gak jelas konstelasinya
klo jadi MPP posisi indo mundur dari pro one makin gak jelas
klo kalian mo mengubah peta politik saat ini berjuanglah di next election, tp klo kalah jangan jadi bikin aneh2 macam ababil x2
@handray
tadinya mau diem aja, tapi tiba2 kemarin di PM salah satu petinggi ONE nanyain gov indo yg ga kelihatan batang nick nya sejak lama. Dia marah2 gara2 koordinasi Indonesia yg "buruk" ngelepas satu region aja ga bisa. SAmpai2 dia minta ane ol IRC nemuin dia. Kertajaya juga sering di PM> Entah sepuh yg lain. Lalu ada kasus masalah Argentina. (Yes, we have many problem in foreign office)
Jaman dulu, orang2 kayak Nico, renago aktif komunikasi sama Argen dan ONE. Walaupun berkali2 Argentina mau di NE bisa dikasih pengertian agar nengincar musuh lain.
Intinya adalah, kedekatan sama ONE dan argentina itu kerja keras berbulan-bulan bahkan bertahun2. Bahkan banyak dari yg udah tua dekat secara personal baik sama pemain tua Argen atau ONE. Dan jelas ga terima kalau kerja keras dan reputasi Indonesia berbulan2 hancur karena satu bulan dimana kabinet nyaris ilang kabeh.
Yang ane inginkan itu agar bisa tercipta peace antara Argen dan ONE secara diplomasi seperti yg telah diusahakan beberapa bulan ini. Indonesia kudu berperan akif baik kasih pressure ke Argen dan ONE. Bukannya diem aja karena takut dengan ally kita di ONE.
Kejadian bulan ini malah sama ONE dah renggang, Argen ga ditolongin, damage kebuang sia2. Sampai2 gov harus di TO semalam cuma biar aberi dapet jatah dan gov kembali jalan.
Kalau ini masih dikira ababil, entah apakah harus diem aja lihat reputasi Indonesia yang dibangun bertahun2 hancur lebur.
/me kandangin saikoh
kyaknya kurang dapet jatah dari ekrem neh...
Gov nya lagi liburan mungkin juga studi banding... mengutip kata yang sering ane denger "Mau tau, Maka nya GATH" ,,, negara ini hanya milik yang pada gath,,
/me blom pernah dateng gath, jadi tugasnya cuman klik-klik duank 😃
Kejadian bulan ini malah sama ONE dah renggang, Argen ga ditolongin, damage kebuang sia2. Sampai2 gov harus di TO semalam cuma biar aberi dapet jatah dan gov kembali jalan.
Kalau ini masih dikira ababil, entah apakah harus diem aja lihat reputasi Indonesia yang dibangun bertahun2 hancur lebur.
sapa yg bikin ancur lebur?
udah ancur lebur masi dipertahankan?
keadaan udah ky gini masi bisa dipercaya?
@Psy_Cho: Kalau bisa kita jd orang ketiga yyg menangani permasalahan antara ONE sama Argentina, biar kgk ribet gini jdnya.....
Argentina maunya gimana, ONE maunya Gimana, Dipas"in, buat kita disini jd Penengah/Orang ketiga yg bisa nentuin (Mediasi kalo gak salah xD), supaya terciptanya Peace, sekalian ajak Turki berunding kalo bisa....
@canester.. orang ke 3 waktu orang pacaran itu setan.. awkawkawkwakwakwak
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maaf gov lagi gesek"in pantatnya ke tembok tidak bisa di ganggu
@mhanth4f: lah EMang xD, masalahnya itu bukan Pacaran, ini masalah Brotherhood xD
: O Gesek"nya di Tembok China yah?, wah kudu dijemput wkwkkwwk xD
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