Turkish PTO plan revealed or a "peaceful invasion"?
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by Lemessianos
Hi everybody,
I was not planning to start a newspaper, but unfortunately I was forced to do so. Who forced me? A REAL threat for eCyprus.
see article http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/ay-e-tatile-ccedil-kt--1551309/1/20
I know is in Turkish, so I used an internet translator (I removed the link of the translator to avoid being reported for "advertising") to find out what they say, as I was worried from the pictures that they were asking people to cove to Cyprus. Herebelow you can see the translation:
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Hello Dear Turkish People!
First, it is very important for the future of manuscript eTürkiye'nin specify. Please register and make more people can see the oylayınız.
Turkey is the main land, with the support of our friends aboard the new participants have received the land back and we went honorably alnımızın eKurtuluş War II (East have also counting).
What about Homeland puppy? Do you leave the little land, which the Greeks of Cyprus? Of course the answer is NO
As you know, parliamentary elections will take place on Sunday. Newly added to the game in Cyprus, safe and full of the majority of seats will be added to the community be able to use this pristine treasure. By publishing articles on the Greek Government led many players to Cyprus. Planted eyes Cyprus treasure! Greece seized the treasure in one day this will delete all this effort throws. Ekomomisi they enter with us into war because of the downturn in Greece, Cyprus, seen as the golden eggs chicken ..
Time to take the fruit of our work secret for a long time. MP candidates, candidates completed and is waiting for you .. event.php?
The management of their colony of Greeks in Cyprus in perpetuity or absence of mold in your hands
I want your vote TURKISH CYPRUS AND MOVING YOUR USE OF CANDIDATES FOR
Tickets will be covered by us, the ticket can write comments for the article below, steoks'a or you can talk to me.
For friends who do not know a reminder, you must become a citizen of Cyprus, Cyprus to vote .. Do not say I'm a citizen of the Turkish Cypriot citizenship to leave, Greeks do not want to. By contrast to claims the following operations after you use your vote to return to Turkish citizenship.
How to tell değiştireleceğini altamore'un with the help of citizenship you have prepared an illustrated guide:
To modify the region need to do your job and your party to resign first, respectively, to resign from your job;
(then there is a guide as to how to resign from work and move to eCyprus, get the Cypriot citizenship, get into the CYPRUS PEACE PARTY (I guess the name of the party is a joke) )
Congratulations, now you are a member of our party
Post comments below the article to find that the ticket again, steoks'a or you can talk to me. New, old, rich and poor will be made public to help the ticket.
There are perhaps a reminder Unutanlarınız do (for new players to get the information), the Cyprus Peace Party's parliamentary candidate was elected by vote of the people everybody in Turkey. Parliamentary candidates selected so far and continued to work with secret meetings, I think now is time to eat the fruit!
I am sure that many new players wondering how to vote ediyordur discarded, the illustrated guide on the road for him tomorrow, stay tuned ..
Best Games
Absinthe12
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JUST TO CLARIFY, THE UNDERLYING IS MADE BY ME TO POINT OUT THE PARTS I WILL BE COMMENTING BELOW ... THE SMALL BOLD PART IS MY COMMENT!!!
So what this article tell us?
(1) Homeland puppy. I don't know how to take this. Either my english are not good or the translation is not good, but what I understand is that the eTurkish author with his team (hereinafter "the conspiracy team") see eCyprus as a puppy!!!
(2) pristine treasure: This is obviously the target of the conspiracy team, the treasury of eCyprus. This contradicts with all the articles issued by many eTurks in eCyprus that they come to work for eCyprus and want to make it strong and independent and mpla mpla mpla
(3) Time to take the fruit of our work secret for a long time / continued to work with secret meetings, I think now is time to eat the fruit: So they have been working in secret? Can it be? YES, this is stated twice in this article. And they are working secretly for only one purpose, to take the fruit (eCyprus' treasure)
(4) the Cyprus Peace Party's parliamentary candidate was elected by vote of the people everybody in Turkey: well, I guess this is their view of "an Independent eCyprus" which will be free for all citizents and other mpla mpla mpla of their propaganda!!!
This is the real intentions of the conspiracy team ... well, now we can call them eTurks as "they were elected by vote of the people everybody in Turkey".
These are the people who were "promising" an independent eCyprus. The people who were calling others as PTOers, as nationalists, xenophovic etc etc etc. I think what eTurks are doing is the definition of PTO.
When you learn to be a thief in your rl you can't be anything else in a game.
The thiefs are coming!!!
I am calling every eCypriot citizent who is against this PTO gang to vote ANYONE BUT THEM for the good of eCyprus.
Lemessianos
an eCypriot citizen
PS: Kemal, maybe this was the reason why you haven't stated any targets or plans? Either you were too busy working secretly or reluctant to state that you want to become a member of the congress to take the treasure of eCyprus (I named you cause you were the No.1 commentator in almost all articles)
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FREE CYPRUS!
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So true..
eCyrpus for eCypriots
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Working in secret. OMG, no one of us expected that turks wanted to PTO Cyprus. You are the James Bonds of eRepublik!
maybe this is a misunderstanding ... from the first day i came into the game i was listening to Turks that they are not the PTOers, they want the good of eCyprus, they want to be independent, they want everybody (except for Greeks of course) to participate in the government ... maybe the translator is wrong ... maybe what it really says is "come to eCyprus" to help our brothers the Cypriots to evolve!!!
lol lemessianos i hope you are joking on your last comment🙂
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well in 2 months max we will be ready to invade all greece. if we want cyprus to be a part of turkey why we shold try to establish in cyprus peacefully? its better to see some resistance. but no we are here to live together we both can manage.
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if u ask me i could translate it better, dont trust google translate🙂 we will give freedom to eCyprus! We are here to take eCyprus from eGreece's hands.
(1) Homeland puppy: it is worst trasnalte i have ever seen. "Yavru Vatan" is an idiom.
(2) pristine treasure: i warned ppl cause eGreece wants it..
(3).......: we worked secretly for sure, think a guerrilla team working for eCyrpus..
(4).......: we only voted for offical candidates with a fair system.
absinthe, yes, of course. You are our saviors.
the translation is almost correct.
(1) Homeland puppy: It is a false translation. Yavru Vatan means Small Homeland, an idiom that was created in Turkey to refer to Cyprus.
And it is an idiom I try never to use because most Cypriots consider it insulting, because it alludes to a Big Brother Turkey and Small Brother Cyprus. Not more offensive than Enosis, but may be seen as such nonetheless.
(2) pristine treasure: I will do everything in my power to prevent the transfer of the contents of the treasury of Cyprus to Turkey or independent players / organizations. It must be used for Cyprus and Cyprus only. If I get in charge of the economy, I would make all the funds be used in creating the infrastructure of the country: like the necessary organizations and Q1 firms. The rest would be kept for future use.
"3) Time to take the fruit of our work secret for a long time / continued to work with secret meetings, I think now is time to eat the fruit"
You know we never hid our intentions of making eCyprus an independent country. Everything was out in the open. The secret meetings the article alludes to are no more secret than what you and Iaswn have been talking in chat. The dramatization is to invoke excitement while reading the article I guess.
"(4) the Cyprus Peace Party's parliamentary candidate was elected by vote of the people everybody in Turkey"
We have a considerable number of international candidates (the ratio was 35-40% IIRC - how many do you have?). Plus I will personally support international candidates myself in the next elections.
This movement is not more of a PTO than what the Greek nationalists are trying to do. I support this one, because the Greek nationalist movement proved time and again that they will tolerate no one who cannot speak Greek. I claim it will be different for the international movement.
Was the answer satisfactory? Do not forget to answer my previous criticism. I want to see how you can pull it off without making Iaswn mad.
@Kemal
(1) "I will do everything in my power to prevent the transfer of the contents of the treasury of Cyprus to Turkey or independent players / organizations". Does this reflect to the whole eTurks PTO team? DOES THIS STATEMENT BINDS THE WHOLE PTO TEAM?
(2) "no more secret than what you and Iaswn have been talking in chat" ... I hope that this is just an example, cause I never recall chating with Iaswn ... otherwise is a false accusation.
(3) "This movement is not more of a PTO than what the Greek nationalists are trying to do." If the Greeks are doing PTO they are nationalists, xenophovic, but if the Turks are doing it they are friends of the world? It is the Turks that we see them coming organised with 20 Turkish candidates stating about "fruits" and "treasures"
(4) "Do not forget to answer my previous criticism" - please clarify what you mean? what criticism?
You can read the Turkish comments in the Turksish PTO article
Kemal Ergenekon. Cyprus Democratic Party candidates are both cypriot and international. Your candidates are turks and international, no cypriots. So I guess you want an independent Cyprus free of cypriots.
You'll support international candidates? Well, vote me, I'm spanish and I'm running for Congress.
@Lemessianos
(1) No IT DOESN'T BIND THE WHOLE PARTY. Nor does it bind any member of THE GREEK NATIONALIST PTO TEAM!
Caps lock ftw.
(2) It is just an example, yes. But I am sure Iaswn and his team didn't decide over the members in an article in eCypriot media, am I correct? How is this different then? Our process can even be seen: We have made an open voting procedure, unseen in most supposedly democratic platforms. How did you join around the candidates? Explain please.
(3) Oh, no, I am sure there are many Turkish ethnic nationalists supporting the internationalist group. The difference is, your team unanimously rejected people from all other nationalities whereas our group welcomed them with open arms. This is a fact, so do not attemp to challange it; I have proof as long as you do not delete the replies.
(4) I replied you in Iaswn's article, that's what I mean.
@OutSmarter
You are not international at all. You rejected the Irish, you rejected the Spanish, you rejected everyone who cannot speak Greek. In fact, when a half-blood RL Cypriot arrived, you asked him if he could still speak Greek. That's internationalism? Wow... Just wow...
OutSmarter, if you wrote down your plans and didn't act like the puppet of the Greek nationalists I would definitely vote for you. Do that now, and I vote for you. Deal?
"(2) pristine treasure: I will do everything in my power to prevent the transfer of the contents of the treasury of Cyprus to Turkey or independent players / organizations."
And this will be the insurance that my new homeland, if you have the majority, will not be broke from the very beginning? The words of a single man?
@Kemal
So your statement on Cyprus treasure is only your personal view. But as a member of the PTO team you must know what are your party's intentions. As far as I know, the Greeks do not have the intention to steal Cyprus. I suggest all candidates to make publicly this statement.
Have the official candidates of each political party been finalised ? (I am not familiar with the mechanics)
When you say your party welcomes the international citizents (non Cypriots or Greeks of course) what exactly do you mean? Welcome them to vote your pre-determined Turkish candidates?
And when you said "your team" what team do you mean? First of all I do not belong to any team. I am not a member of any party yet. My "team" is the people who care to stay in eCyprus and work for the progress of eCyprus and not for the interests of eGreece eTurkey or any other eNation.
ptoers with a big mouth!
@Clairvoyant
Oh, no one is *obliged* to provide you with insurance. If you trust the MACEDONIA IS GREECE!!!111 people more, you vote for them. I'm not trying to convince you that the internationalist movement will be more beneficial to eCyprus. Even converting a person's religion would be easier, given your essentialist criteria in trusting people.
@Lemessianos
I am member of no PTO team. If you repeat this, I will not answer your further comments.
We do not have the intention to steal eCyprus, but we have the intention to prevent Greek nationalist steal eCyprus. Easy enough to understand, eh?
And as for international citizens: No, we have given SEATS to international candidates. We have reduced the number of Turkish candidates to open room for foreigners. UNLIKE IASWN.
Whatever. I'm tired of talking with people who assign no value to objective criteria and empirical observations when considering the truth of a situation. I can never respect blind faith and blind hatred, so I am out for now. Take care.
"Macedonia is Greece" people, judging from the sentence, are true. As truly Macedonia is Greece. Just take a look at a map of Greece. Any dispute on that?
@Kemal about:
"You are not international at all. You rejected the Irish, you rejected the Spanish, you rejected everyone who cannot speak Greek. In fact, when a half-blood RL Cypriot arrived, you asked him if he could still speak Greek. That's internationalism? Wow... Just wow...
OutSmarter, if you wrote down your plans and didn't act like the puppet of the Greek nationalists I would definitely vote for you. Do that now, and I vote for you. Deal?"
I can't speak Greek and anyone rejects me. And I know more people who can't speak Greek and wasn't rejected. I just showed my good intentions and now I feel wellcomed.
My plans for Cyprus? Wait and see. I'm not going to plan nothing that I might not be able to purpose if "someone" comes and PTOes the country. But I have ideas.
@The_Clairvoyant
Greece is Macedonia, more likely.
@OutSmarter
If your plans are genuine and if you wish to contribute to increasing the welfare of eCypriots, regardless of their nationality, then I look forward to work with you. For I will be here, and doing exactly that.
@Kemal Ergenekon
Trying to seem smart, is not always successful. Try harder, I'm sure you can make it. Do not disappoint me with twice-told silly slogans ; )
@the_clairvoyant
cyprus is Turkish .. only watch hahaha and dont forget this words but if you join election you can see hahah
@Newceri
Cyprus is Cyprus. Not Greek not Turkish. Both erep and rl. Live with it.
from what I know PTO = Political Take Over
so when 20 Turkish (or Greeks, or EU, or non EU, or Alien) candidates come organised in another eCountry (e.g. eCyprus) to control the congress and government, how do you call this? You said you have a PhD and yet you missed the obvious.
Greeks come to support Cypriots, Turks come to support Turks, can you see the difference?
And you keep telling that Iaswn does this and Iaswn does that. Do you know who are the 20 candidates of the party he is now president? Cause I don't.
And as your party (how do you want me to call you ... peace party???) has organised everything weeks ago, why don't you tell us what are your plans? How do you expect us to vote you? How do you expect for foreigners to vote you? You say that "I Kemal will do my best to use the treasury funds for eCyprus" ... what happens if the other 19 members of your party feel different? You will then say "I did what i promised, i voted no for the transfer of money to eTurkey, so my conscious is clear"?
I keep trying to be logical and discuss with you based on what I see so far.
And as a last comment, answering your calls for Iaswn's plans, presentation etc, has your party leader (Steoks) made any such presentation (other than the articles calling Turks to come to Cyprus to vote and the other "non-racist" article against Greeks). We can not ask from others to do something we have not yet done. And don't tell us about short of time etc cause your comments in all political articles show exactly the opposite.
(Sorry for commenting only your comments, but you seem to be the most educated Turkish guy with whom I hope I can discuss with arguments)
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what a translation x D "homeland puppy"
@Kemal Ergenekon
counted 10 lines referring to me, without absolutely any piece of information regarding the sentence I criticized you on. Still waiting to show me that Macedonia is not Greece, and that Greece is Macedonia as you claim. Before starting to type again, notice 2 elementary things:
Greece consists of the following regions:
Thrace, Macedonia, Epirus, Thessaly, Sterea Ellada, Attica, Peloponesse, Aegean Islands, Crete, Ionian Islands.
Where exactly is there a fact that Macedonia is not Greece? And where that Greece is only Macedonia and not all the other regions? Except of course if you talk about FYROM...
Also no need for courses, far better people than you have done this long time ago. Thank you for your offer.
""Greeks come to support Greek puppets, Turks come to support Turkish candidates. What's the difference? There is no difference unless you assume eCyprus belongs to RL Cypriots with Greek ethnicity and RL Greeks. Which you assume. Which is - in my opinion - racist. And it is exclusionary without doubt.""
Only from reading this I start to wonder whether you actually read what I say or just imagining things. There is a phrase in Greek "εξ'ιδίων κρίνεις τα αλλότρια" which means that you judge others based on youself and if you are tricky you believe that everyone is tricky! And to bring it to your case, because you are PTOing eCyprus you judget that everybody is doing the same thing.
I really hoped we could discuss, but it's hopeless, unless you revove the blinders
You guys are starting to repeat yourselves and your arguments are no longer fun to disprove, when you have used the same line countless times.
i.e. kkthxpai
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peacy party = Turks party !!! why am I not suprised?