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Please try to understand that A LOT of us don't want them for allies because of pure and only ingame reasons. I know a lot of turks IRL, they are nice guys and i even quite often work with them.

malion my friend my understanding is that the reasons are RL....if they are ingame, please let us know them too 🙂

@malion
the original article says
"30% of Bulgarians hate you just because you are Turks! "

thanks dude

I believe it is not just RL reasons.
Take a look on the Spanish denial to accept Turkey in ONE some months ago.

In any case, I agree eGreece's allying with Turkey showing that RL can stay out of the game

We have some pretty noisy trolls that are all over the newspapers comments and they only know how to hate... and they don't hate only Turkey... they hate our own officials, our army, our successful players, our allies... etc... they only know how to hate. The reasons why the majority of us voted against Turkey joining Eden AT THIS POINT are numerous. When we joined Eden we needed our time, we passed our trial period and we did our best to prove that we are worthy joining. Now we have friendly nations like India who are doing the same although they fight for us for a long time. And we were pretty pissed when we learned over the night that from now on Turkey is Eden and that's a final decision. Just like that... somewhere someone decided it. And from that day most of the turkish players started acting like that is something we owed them and is theirs by right... like they are something more than the others. Besides that we remember we have been betrayed couple of times by them in the past and it is a bit difficult for us to start trusting them at once. You, Megalexandros, should remember very well one of these moments when we were still Phoenix and you helped us against the "friendly" fire of the Lazokrats... There are such examples from the past too... Some might say Lazokrats are not turkish squad and they act on their own... or that INCI isn't... or only a part of INCI... or fake/real INCI.... but really when most normal casual players see turks hitting against us they see Turkey hitting against us. That's not something huge and we might work it out... but we need time. And one month is definately not enough.

I undestand your frustration. I just believe at fiving eacj other an opportunitu to prove themselves to you. I agree that even within inci there are different groups. Also within Turkey. And I know we will face issues in the future from such groups. Unfortunately for them, Turks will have to come otu and explain such actions....but we cannot leave out the majority who want to play the game like most of us

As i said... we might work that out, but according to me, we just need more time.

Die turkey Die ! ..... nah don't but i really got over raged when u said "Just because a Turkish guy has murdered your ancestor, doesn't justify you to kill the first Turkish person you meet"

u know u aren't much gd at making these arguments to stop the fighting
i strongly suggest that next time u say "we got to stop looking back at the past and start looking towards the future, yasterday's enemy could be tomorrow's friend"
am not even greek and i got energized when i saw what u wrote 🙁(

revenge ........ "i ain no killer but don't push me, revenge is like the sweetest joy next to getting pu$$y"

man is right guys.

malion's last comment is accurate. Time is needed, and no rush! Of course the article is voted

damn right
move forward

I accept that time is needed, but it seems to be running against us. Patience 🙂

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eTurkey not going through the trial period is a sign of arrogance towards the rest of EDEn members who did get through it. Esecially considering the past. And as an added note, because I see many people spiking us saying "You just step on RL reasons", I've seen many eTurks already denying the alliance on RL reasons themselves, throughout many articles but still we (eGreeks and eBulgarians having doubts on their joining) are the only ones being spiked.

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eTurkey not going through the trial period is a sign of arrogance towards the rest of EDEn members who did get through it. Esecially considering the past. And as an added note, because I see many people spiking us saying "You just step on RL reasons", I've seen many eTurks already denying the alliance on RL reasons themselves, throughout many articles but still we (eGreeks and eBulgarians having doubts on their joining) are the only ones being spiked.
+111111111111111

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@Megaleko befere the referendum starts the things were 51% NO and 49% YES, but after smee`s trolling articles they have changed a lot. I wanted the MPP with Turkey, but after so many trolling even I got pissed of...this is my opinion.

copy comment from another article
To be honest I'm tired. EDEN was so desperate to court Turkey that forgot about their own principles and laws. Turkey is such a proud nation - Turks cannot accept 3 months trial membership? But how many months were you played by ONE?
Bulgarian population was not informed about Turkey joining EDEN. A small group knew about it and after 2 days it was already voted 1 month trial (even though trial for EDEN is 3 months and every country before Turkey was through 3 months trial membership) and mpps were proposed. This is how the Bulgarian population found out. Mistakes were made and no one bothered to fix them. Congrats all for this lovely mess.
And now I'm waiting to be called racist or influenced kid by ATAKA members.

also in FallenBG article he said 30% based on RL reasons, which is not the majority

Svetl1o

a) they were/are on trial already
b) they were/are on trial more than BG was when you where in the same situation!!

Even if you are talking about ingame reasons there isnt any valid statement,cause it is a win - win situation, Bulgaria has nothing to lose with Turkey.

For the record Bulgaria joined EDEN within few weeks - (no trial period) cause the actual trial period for EDEN was 3 months back then 🙂

v&s

Wise words. Keep gaming!

sorry I just woke up and my syntax is crap 😛

the words are correct Iaswn, this is what matters

So....are you coming @ Inci? 😃

@Iaswn
I cannot accept your statement as valid beacause eBulgaria, unlike eTurkey, did not show sings of insults racism and hatred against us prior to joining EDEN. eTurkey citizens have and in fact way too many times. What eTurks has to prove first and foremost is that they are willing to change their mind and stop acting like thy're still the Sultans of the Balkans and not their military might which EDEN has been facing on the battlefield since the very creation of EDEN

Bulgarians hate to be told what to do...trolls did good job, when they flooded the newspapers with articles telling us what we have to do...turks, fyromians, cros, marsians etc. WE didn't elect a nationalist for president. WE made the right choice. We showed that we can think. But when everyone thought that we are too lame to coupe with our inner affairs and decided that they should teach us was the biggest fail ever. This made the difference in the Referendum. Cause as someone said it was all 50/50. But now is more like 35/65, Bulgarian edeninci who want to fight against Turkey in their campaigns are forming. Citizenturk - famous troll made a big hit that made everybody hate turks a little bit more. And the worst thing is that there is no answer from the Turkish congress or the presidency. No article to show that they do not think like Citizenturk, no nothing. And this silence for us is like an agreement with what that troll said.

For the record I voted "For", but I already doubt my opinion.

Iaswn, we signed the MPPs earlier... just like Turkey, but we had our 3 month trial until we became members officially.

@malion it was 2 months and during the first month Bulgarian elite from Russia fought heavily (tanking included) against Romania and Romania lost it's Russian colonies. Russia was PHX. But Romania closed an eye since it was just the first month. Sometimes you give up a bit on your pride for the greater good of the alliance. Or have you forgotten those episodes?
All-in-all interesting times are comming.

All-in-all interesting times are coming. +1

My interview????

@alpho

Well... you see that one month was not enough for us too : )

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correction
2 years and 8 months.
Not 4 years.
calculate from May2009 UNTIL January 2012.
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