The United Kingdom: Why Can't We Be Friends?...Anymore
Day 721, 10:53
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by NeilP99
I must admit that when I first came to the eUK as part of my eWorld Tour I thought I was just going to write an article mocking them for turning their backs on their former allies. I assumed I would make some jokes about British people having bad teeth and then move on to my next destination. However, when I interviewed the Prime Minister of the eUK he said something that struck me. More on that later of course, but now some facts and some history for those who don’t know it.
eUS GDP: 3321.6 Gold
eUK GDP: 532.9 Gold
eUS Exchange Rate (USD to Gold): 40.12:1
eUK Exchange Rate (GBP to Gold): 32.84:1
eUS Active Population: 4585
eUK Active Population: 1369
The eUK and the eUS used to be best buds. It was like the eUK was another Bro in the Brolliance, and not a step-bro, but a real deal blood bro. Considering the real life links between the two countries it seems natural that the eCountries would be friendly too. For the majority of V1 they had been, but as with life, things change. When Atlantis fell the many nations that had once been allied under the Atlantis banner were left vulnerable and had to decide what to do. Eden was starting to form and the eUK, eCanada, eIreland, eSpain, and eUS all had to figure out whether they would join Eden or embark on their own. They started working to form an alliance that was to be known as Fortis, but ultimately this alliance never came to be. After much debate in their country, the eUK decided that they would not join Fortis. What shocked many was that rather than join Fortis, or even remain neutral, the eUK decided to join the long time enemy of the former Atlantis countries, PEACE. Within weeks the eUS, eSpain, and eCanada were being invaded from all sides by PEACE with the help of the eUK. The insult and outrage was rampant, and to this day many in the invaded countries would like nothing more than to invade the eUK.
What the future of relations between the eUK and eUS holds is unclear. For the time being they are enemies, but as I’ve already said, things can change, and change suddenly, in eRepublik. Personally, when I heard that the eUK had joined PEACE, I assumed that they had been PTOed. It turns out that it was more complicated than that and that even within the eUK there was a great deal of uncertainty about what should happen. It’s easy for us in the eUS to consider the eUK traitors for leaving their long time allies, and to some extent we should be outraged, but that wouldn’t be telling the whole story. The eUK was in a much more dangerous position after Atlantis fell than the eUS was. They already shared borders with PEACE member France, and with an open war existing between the two countries invasion was a constant threat. Though many in the former Atlantis countries, and even some in PEACE countries, would call what the eUK did betrayal I now believe that the eUK was simply watching out for themselves in the best way they thought they could. I still disagree with it, but I can understand it. I understood it even better after I talked to the Prime Minister of the eUK, Mr Woldy.
Q: The eUK joining PEACE came as a surprise to many eAmericans, was it as sudden as is seemed to all of us or was it a thought out process?
A: It was a very long debate in congress with multiple votes. I was in congress during the whole period of discussions and votes, and witnessed the shift from pro-USA thought to pro-PEACE.
Q: What drove the eUK to join PEACE?
A: "Is a country not entitled to make their own choices?
No said the man in Washington. Your choice belongs to us
No said the man in Bucharest. It belongs to ATLANTIS
No said the man in Stockholm. We took it from the Germans.
Well, we in the United Kingdom, we chose something different.
We chose PEACE"
Many factors such as antagonism from the US, and people’s general feeling towards PEACE countries shifted people's opinions. Security was beginning to worry some people and we all knew neutrality would not last. A decision had to be made.
Q: Was there a rift between the eUK and the rest of Atlantis that caused the eUK to join PEACE that was hidden to most citizens?
A: There wasn't a rift, and we're not the only Atlantis country to have joined PEACE, the problem with Atlantis is that people were only allies on paper, there was no social side to the alliance and no bonds were created between member countries. Nobody was friends, it was just a bunch of people who relied on each other.
Q: Do you think that eUK is doing better now that it is allied with PEACE than it was before joining PEACE?
A: Yes, it was a progressive choice to make at that time. That doesn't mean to say we wouldn't be any worse/better off had we not have joined.
Q: Do most people in the eUK agree with joining PEACE or are there still some who think it was a mistake?
A: Everyone who has lived through the transition period and took an active role in society knows it was a good decision.
Q: How do you think joining PEACE after being allied with Atlantis for so long affected the image of the eUK?
A: Well the trolls like to claim backstabbing and conspiracy is rampant amongst a few political figures in the eUK, which causes less than flattering articles to be released. Not many people pay much attention to them, and it reminds me of the kind of people we no longer have to be allied with. I can't bear to imagine having to fight with the Swede in the past, for example.
I’d like to thank Mr Woldy for answering my questions. I don’t honestly know how people are going to react to this article. Some might think I’m making excuses for the eUK, others might think that I make some good points. I’ve tried my best to see things from both sides and just write about what happened and how it made people feel, but any time long time friends become enemies it makes it hard to be objective. I still would like to see the eUS and eUK reunited on the same side someday, but I also know that day won’t be soon. I hope to publish an article soon that takes a break from the eWorld Tour, but after that I’m on to my next destination. So until then, thanks for reading.
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I hold out hope that one day Canada, the US, and the UK will renew the bonds of friendship.
tbh, the UK leaving us was the best thing that had ever happened for us and Canada. If they hadn't bowed to Peace's demands, we would have fought for them, and the war wouldn't have been as bad for us. They would have had a huge baby boom instead of us, and they'd be flying around the world liberating the shit out of Peace instead of us. Too bad for them that they are not intelligent~
>Many factors such as antagonism from the US
That's nonsense. Franco was the only person saying anything foul about them, and it was behind closed doors. One quote comes to mind, and I believe that it's the only one. He expressed his anger towrds them for dragging their feet in negotiations. The simple fact is that Peace told their UK minions to push the UK into their arms so that Hungary could use their bridge to Canada to get to Asia, Hello Kitty.
I am posting a third time, because the third time's a charm :3
Excellent article Neil..
When do we get to eradicate those roaches already?
The eUK betrayed us long before they joined PEACE. The leadership of the eUK, while pretending to work on building Fortis were actually a direct conduit of confidential information to the enemy. They were never interested in joining Fortis and only used neutrality to cover for their deceit. Hassan and his crew leaked all the information about the Operation Turkish Delight to PEACE. They claimed they would support us but never sent a single soldier. They masqueraded as our friends long before they ever became our open enemies.
I have absolutely no sympathy for them in the least. Instead of standing with their long-time allies against the threat they perceived from PEACE, they not only welcomed PEACE with open arms but actively lied and deceived their friends.
I respect many foes in this game. I have none for the eUK.
You always manage to capture two sides of the story and break it down into something we can all digest a little bit easier, Neil.
Having said that, I, too, can understand what they did and why they did it. However, the choice was a "disagreeable" one. You don't think that the eUS would be on the sh*t-list of multiple post-Atlantis countries if we decided to join PEACE?
They have no tears for their decision. I have no tears for them.
@Temujin
Yes, so do I, after they apologize and leave PEACE and admit to being wrong and beg for forgiveness.
Oh and all the PEACE goons must be voted out
It's interesting how Woldy complains about the lack of social bonds in ATLANTIS. I wasn't around for that but all of my dealings with our allies in EDEN and other ex-ATLANTIS countries have been nothing but pleasant.
This and Eugene Harlot's opinion. After working with Harlot for the past four months I have no reason to doubt a single thing he says. Bro's (Canada) before Ho's (UK).
I think people need to realize that ATLANTIS used to be the bad guys, while PEACE were the scrappy underdogs fighting for justice in the restoration of lands.
I don't really blame the UK. But that doesn't mean I support what they did.
I stand ready to kill redcoats.
Nice read. I have no animosity towards eUK (or anyone yet 😉), even thought about starting there, but instead started in eAusstralia.
Don't know what to make of this really, but eCanada and eUSA where almost wiped from the map! They stood up to PEACE and paid for it. Not sure why eUK wouldn't do this either? Especially now seeing that eIndo and eHungary are the aggressors in this game.
I still support an occupation of the UK and installing a new Government and then pulling out. I have been around since the Goons and PEACE is the brain child of the Goons. I liked the UK, I had many good friends in the UK and to see people who were loyal and had strong connections with the US and it's allies and to see the UK just up and join PEACE...there is without a doubt honest to god foul play in this. I do not doubt there are people who supported the joining of PEACE but to deny that there were not people sent in by PEACE to push for the UK to join PEACE is well just a big lie. The US NEVER screwed the UK over like Hungary did and yet the UK considers them chums? That there is proof there are PEACE agents in the UK Government, not to mention there is quite a few of their Government officials who have not always lived in the UK.
The UK's time will come, there will be a day when they regret screwing us over because like all things, stuff comes to end and PEACE's days are numbered and when PEACE falls, Eden and Brolliance won't welcome the UK into it's ranks unless their leaders lost their minds...to accept a Nation that betrayed all of it's allies would be wrong beyond imagining.
/rant over
Mr. Woldy suffers from cognitive dissonance. Rather than step up and do the right thing, rather than live with the fact that his country behaved treacherously, he has concocted a history that absolves his own conscience and country of guilt. Congratulations.
I for one, if faced with impending invasion from hostile forces, would hope that my country would stand tall with allies and face the aggressors, rather than drop to its knees and service the aggressors in a most undignified manner.
The eUK completely deserves the global reputation it has now. Only actions, not concocted fantasies, will change it.
holy shit, an unbiased article by an american. unprecedented
>implying that the UK and Peace publish anything but bias against the US and their allies
Well done.
/eUK MoFA
While it was merely only a few men who betrayed us that time ago, they were elected (or appointed) by the people of the UK, so the responsibility completely falls upon them.
Outside of the betrayal, I understand why the UK did what it did letting PEACE invade America. It was that or annihilation. Canada was given the same ultimatum, and I think we all know what they sacrificed for America.
Bro's (Canada) before Ho's (UK)
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GLaDOS 47 minutes ago
"holy shit, an unbiased article by an american. unprecedented"
Holy cow, a biased comment by a PEACEnik. As ususal.
😛
What I don't get is this, if you were afraid of being destroyed, why didn't Canada do the same thing as you? THEY WERE DESTROYED! WITH HELP FROM YOU! So stop telling this BS about it saving you from PEACE, because you share more borders with hostile EDEN/Bro countries now.
I stand ready to kill redcoats ect ect....
Another sad thing is the UK probably isn't even fully trusted in PEACE because they betrayed their allies once, who says they won't again.
This article is completely ridiculous. North Korea's homeland was in much more danger than UK, but yet they fight along side us like true allies. UK has no excuse.
MrWoldy's craps.
They need to open their eyes like Italy, France and Argentina.
To reemphasize Mr. Harlot, the eUK didn't just switch sides. The eUK pretended friendship to the Fortis nations while sending crucial information to PEACE. Also, they pretended friendship (or at least neutrality) with the old Fortis nations even after they began the land swap with Hungary. People would have understood changing to PEACE, especially concerning what Atlantis was like. Notice, that no one in EDEN or the Brolliance believes that Argentina or Germany betrayed their allies. That is because they did not collaborate with the enemy while still professing to be friends.
"Nobody was friends, it was just a bunch of people who relied on each other." So, you mean more like a family? [wipes away tear]
I stand ready to hug redcoats. And then smother them as they sleep trustingly in my arms.
I can understand the eUK wanting to breakaway from the RL example of Churchill's dogged opposition to the Axis in the face of impossible odds. That must be a tough legacy to have to deal with.
Woldy is a smart and clever fellow but he has his head so far up PEACE's ass of denial and feigned innocence that he thinks it shirts chocolate. It doesn't and he knows it doesn't but if he admits that to himself he'd break down completely.
Thank you for your thought out, and intelligent argument on the topic, voted.
You all should already know how George Washington feels about red coats.
Lol, the eUK can deck out a lie in a suit but I won't buy it.
What a self-righteous load of crap. They were too afraid of a valiant fight, so they joined what they thought was the stronger side. And now that EDEN has emerged from WW3 victoriously, eUK tries to justify their actions. Until the eBritish kick out all of their leaders, we can never be friends with them. How can we be allies to a country who has already betrayed us so badly once before?
*EDEN and the US
Nice write up.
It saddens me to see that the eUK leadership seems to have come to believe their own lies.
On the subject of Argentina, they didn't just randomly one day say "Hey we are joining PEACE and letting them come through our country to invade you AND act as a shield to stop you from counter invading". Argentina left because they felt they could not properly be protected and went to be Neutral and eventually joined PEACE. While I hate to see a Nation I fought to defend join PEACE, that is their choice. What I hate to see if a Nation pretend to be our friends and then to change sides and allow our enemies to invade us. IT IS BECAUSE OF THE UK THAT THE US NEARLY FELL AND CANADA FELL. That is reason enough to invade the UK. If at the least we need to take a region or two from the UK and show them we won't tolerate their crap and they need to pay for the damage they have cost us. We have lost much in this war that the UK helped. Without the UK we would have only been facing the Russians but instead we faced the Russians AND Hungarians on two fronts. Rest in hell UK.
Excellent article. It makes me wish I had joined eRep earlier so I could have been apart of such a historic moment. As it happens, I was not, I am here now, and because of what happened before me, I stand ready to kill red coats.
Mr Woldy doesn't use English like a natural-born Englishman
I was involved in the creation of Fortis and Fortis would have been a great alliance, with both military and economic benefits. We bent over backwards to meet the demands of eUK because we wanted them to be in Fortis but, even though we made these changes (which made Fortis weaker and not as good as it could have been), eUK showed that they really weren't interested in the alliance and joined PEACE. Because of eUK's actions, Canada was wiped out and eUSA lost every territory except for Florida, but we still did not join PEACE GC. We even discussed, in the event of losing our entire country, that we would still fight from other countries and execute plans to eventually get our country back rather than succumb to the enemy. If France had attacked eUK, we would have defended our former ally with enthusiasm, because that's what allies are supposed to do.
sorry neil, but this article is not politically correct.
the UK leadership gave you alot of bad information, and as eugene said, UK double crossed ATLANTIS many times before ATLANTIS broke.
They were the traitors that leaked information to PEACE, and they always failed to carry on team plans.
"Q: Was there a rift between the eUK and the rest of Atlantis that caused the eUK to join PEACE that was hidden to most citizens?
A: There wasn't a rift, and we're not the only Atlantis country to have joined PEACE, the problem with Atlantis is that people were only allies on paper, there was no social side to the alliance and no bonds were created between member countries. Nobody was friends, it was just a bunch of people who relied on each other."
So what exactly was the problem with joining fortis an alliance that you were, at the time at least, friendly with all the possible members?
@sebahmah: If the leaders of the eUK choose to give me false information then that is there perogative. I asked questions and told them that I would publish the answers, and if they thought that they could lie and my readers wouldn't figure it out then I guess that reflects what they think about America. I am merely the middleman in this case, though I make clear that I disagree with the way the eUK handled itself durring the time in question.
apparently, in british english antagonism means saying "stop backstabbing us"
I STAND READY TO KILL REDCOATS
I believe the US and the UK will unite again, hopefully its after we wipe them off the map🙂
DEATH TO THE RED COATS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope to see the day were London is in the hands of the eUS or any of
are allies. I just want to see the eBrits gone, and i know some day my wish will be fulfilled.
"I still would like to see the eUS and eUK reunited on the same side someday"
Me too... we could even add a star for them.
Please don't forget that before the eUK joined PEACE, we were embargoed by the eusa. it wasn't entirely unprovoked. Also, on the subject of being invaded by the eusa, I think you should try to think back to the emerican led invasions of mexico, france and canada.