The Australian Independents Party (AIP)
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by Australian Independents Party
Fellow eCitizens of Australia,
I, Xavier Griffith, after long days of thinking, planning and watching what has been going on in our Government over the last couple of weeks have decided that neither of the political partys now suit my political leanings.
With some of the issues that have arisen over the last couple of weeks, I have finally decided that the ADSP, which I supported fully from the beginning, has now moved too far to the left for me to actually remain a member of the party.
I've also come to decide, that the Senate is in need of a bigger cross mix of members to help contribute, however this isn't quite possible to achieve without you, as eCitizens of Australia, belonging to either of the 3 original political parties available to you.
Now, I hope, I have changed this by the creation of the Australian Independents Party or AIP.
I want to make it VERY Clear, that the INDEPENDENTS mentioned in the name does NOT relate to independence of all Australian Territories from Indonesia.
While the AIP does support the Independence of the whole of Australia from Indonesian rule, it supports this process by peaceful means, using negotiation as it has been since we received NSW back. It DOES NOT support independence moves by War.
The AIP stands for the following:
* It has DOES NOT have set Policies, however it does have the current following policies in place which can be changed or amended dependent upon the Party's Membership.
General
1. The AIP is a center party predominantly, however is open to minority groups and allows these minority groups to work together with the other party members to bring about their goals, provided they don't contradict other basic policies of the party.
2. Membership in the AIP is open to those that do not see themselves fitting specifically into one of the current major political parties of the ADSP, ANP or ACP.
3. The AIP sees its self as the party that keeps the others honest and stops governmental policies swinging too far to either side of the political scale.
4. AIP Members are free to cross the floor in the Senate in relation to votes without the AIP as a Party being offended. The Party does not force its members to hold permanently and strictly to its policies.
Civil and Governmental
1. The AIP supports the privatization of companies, and the right of Corporations to operate their businesses with minimal government interference and regulation.
2. The AIP supports governmental policies that aid individuals and where warranted, industries through social programs.
3. The AIP supports political discussion and debate, but reserves the right of members to vote on issues in the Senate on what they believe is in the best interests for ALL, not just the eCitizens and not just the Corporations, and certainly not just in the political interests of the Government.
Defence
1. The AIP supports a strong, well organised Defence Force, as well as an elite force.
2. The AIP supports strong and friendly relations with our Indonesian neighbours while not allowing them to abuse our friendship.
3. The AIP supports peaceful resolution of political difference with all nations over immediate Military Action.
In a sense, if you are Australian, we are similar to the old Democrats. The AIP was created with the motto: "Keep the Bastards Honest" and that is my hope for the Party.
If your interested in Joining the AIP, then go right ahead. Remember, please join the AIP forum as well, by using your eRep NAME so we know who you are.
Click the link to go to the AIP Forums.
Regards
Xavier Griffith
AIP Founder and Party President
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Good Luck Xavier! 😃
When was the last time you checked the ADSP forums?
btw, good luck!
Xave did you get my PM?
The other day actually.
Yes Haugenmatt, I sent a reply.
@Calibur: Thanks
no policies?
you could disguise that as 'centrist policies'
no policies sounds a little degrading
and the ACP isnt soon-to-be
we beat you to being made 😛
gl Xave, look forward to interviewing you.
... about interviews, i still gotta do you taytaz, my bad
Well said Rhonda, couldn't have said it better myself.
@Tay: what she said 🙂
@Vincent: when your ready 🙂
Good luck Xavier, It's great to see an ever diversifing political scene in Aus
A great start, I was tossing the idea around myself actually as the ADSP seems to be the closest thing to the centre you can get at the moment.
I would be careful about the no policy decision though, its never in the best interest of the people to have governments or members acting harshly on "on the day" issues.
@Alex: Actually the ADSP is probably a bit too far to the left at present.
The specific policies will probably develop as more members join.
gl AIP, im sure your in capable hands. i just have to disagree with the bit where u said youll keep all other parties honest. that was prettymuch the same header for the other parties besides the ADSP.
A party needs to have some type of policies. Basically this is a game which means parties should have two basic goals. Firstly to ensure that players can get a good start & secondly that players are able to become big & powerful as they play this game for longer periods. If I were to start a party (which I have no intention of) I'd be having policies to suit these basic goals.
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You're starting a party with a vacumn in the policy department. Sorry but a vacumn is nothing. Unfortunately the ADSP is more more interested in it's socialist agenda then helping people. The Russian Commies which currently have large control over the eAustralia government are determined to make things worse. AAA Seems to be a party for invested interest (many foriegn) to have power struggles.
The ANP is a interesting case. It's pleasing to hear that the ANP leader is prepared to vote against ideology if it's in the interests of eAustralia citizens, whether they can maintain that if they were governing eAustralia will be interesting to find out.
Personally unless AIP manages to establish some kind of stable platform, I believe that ANP should win by default because the othe parties really do disqualify themselves. Here's hoping that AIP can establish a proper platform.
@ Australian Warlord
“Unfortunately the ADSP is more interested in it's socialist agenda then helping people.”
This socialist agenda that you speak of so far has been the only thing helping the lower demographics of eAustralia. If what you meant to say was “ it’s not helping the rich get richer” then yes you are correct.
“ The Russian Commies which currently have large control over the eAustralia government are determined to make things worse”
I trust you have some kind of evidence to support such an allegation? As a member of the ADSP I have never seen activities of the eRussians come into play with our ideals, I do know of another party that has stronger ties with them but I can assure you it is not the ADSP.
You really should do proper research before you accuse parties unless you intentionally just want to show bias.
“Personally unless AIP manages to establish some kind of stable platform,”
This will be the greatest quality the AIP has over the others, its members are allowed to cross the floor whenever they decide, its allowing the little guys to step up and have their say without having to tow party lines.
“I believe that ANP should win by default because the other parties really do disqualify themselves.”
You have just thrown out a democratic vote in that sentence, the winner should be chosen based on the values of the Australian people.
And you failed to demonstrate how the other parties disqualify themselves other then not sharing your views.
@ Alex: thanks for the support, thats exactly what the AIP allows its members to do.
@ Australian Warlor😛 I've included some basic policies for people to see what we stand for, however I would like it kept in mind that as Alex said, the AIP does allow it members to cross the floor whenever they decide.
Right on! if I actually agreed with you I would probably join up, but I don't agree with you on most of your beliefs.
But If I was going to join a political party it would be yours!, you certainly stand for something much more worthwhile than the rest of the crap out there.
The Leftovers, aye?
'The Russian Commies which currently have large control over the eAustralia government are determined to make things worse. '
LOL, seriously where did you get that idea from??
'AAA Seems to be a party for invested interest (many foriegn) to have power struggles.'
What's wrong with foreigners?
Good luck, I really wished the game engine allowed people to stand as independents without being a member of the party though, that would be good.
@Alex. When any party (whether in real life or here) decide that dogged ideology is more important than what's best for those who they wish to govern over, then they really do disqualify themselves.
quote : "I have never seen activities of the eRussians come into play with our ideals"
Taytaz is a proud senior member of the eAustralia government.
We're seeing increasingly Communist policies being introduced into eAustralia. I don't know whether you've read or understand however the ADSP government is directly moving towards direct control over prices & wages & steadily working towards direct control over all business activity in eAustralia.
Quite frankly, any potential investors should be concerned the moves towards Communism & would be wary about investing here. I may be Australian, however I wouldn't invest in business operations in such a environment.
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@Xavier Griffith. It's important that people can cross the floor if they disagree with a individual policy. This is the only aspect of American politics that's better than Australia's.
However the American political organisations still have their basic party policies. You've said that what Rhonda wrote was quote : "couldn't have said it better myself". Rhonda wrote : "The AIP doesn't hold a standard view". How can you expect people to vote for you, they can only vote against the other parties.
You can't be friends with all. If you realise this & act accordingly, you'd probably find many players like myself willing to vote for you.
@widdows9000. I'll be generous and assume that you didn't notice the Russian Communists entering eAustralia as a block, their leader taking a senior position in the eAustralia government or the attempted takeover of AAA by the Russian Communists or the other interesting figures in AAA.
There's only a problem with foreigners when they come here with vested interests as the Russian Communists have.
Who is this foreigner with a senior position in the eAustralia government? Taytaz, because I hate to break it to you, but if that's who you're referring to then you've just shown your ignorance.
Taytaz started his eLife in eUK (when eAus was occupied) and then moved to eAus when it was liberated and he's been in between eAus and the eUK ever since, he's anything but Russian... please get your facts right before you make bold assertions.
'attempted takeover of AAA by the Russian Communists or the other interesting figures in AAA.'
*Sigh. That takeover was because the AAA was inactive, if you ask me the guy who got PP in the end had loads of multies as he has no friends, no newspaper and he got loads of votes... Anyway, the takeover involved myself, Taytaz, jaxmoe, bobdebilde, mouj, deilos etc. Are they Russian? There were a few involved but I (think) they are a slight minority in the ACP.
'There's only a problem with foreigners when they come here with vested interests as the Russian Communists have.'
So they come with a vested interest to help out the people and establish eCommunism, what's wrong with that? You may see it as a hostile takeover as you don't agree with their principles but they believe that what they're doing is best for the people and therefore I don't see a problem with that.
@ AW, Taytaz is a member of the current parliament not government, as you may notice he is no longer a member of the ADSP who you are accusing of "being in bed" with Russian communists.
Yes the ADSP is working towards lowering the inflation rate that last week was 94% and since the start of this week it is around the 50% mark, Yes they are using proven methods of wage control to do this.
I'm not sure many of you capitalists can see beyond the end profit and realize that the ADSP is trying to stabilize the market as wages increased due to low unemployment and now we have the mean prices increases as there is more money on the market then people know what to do with.
This might sound great to those of us with money but what about those who are on their first week and starving?
The GM’s are now crying about civil rights and the Government being to communistic , I have not seen one ANP member vote to lower tariffs on imported goods!!
If you have such faith in your capitalist ideals then through that on the board, see what happens when the foreign investors come into the market and then cry that the government did not do enough.
@ Widdows
You don’t see a problem with political invasion?
The government of the day is a representation of the values of the nation, By coming in and helping put a government into place that doesn’t share the same ideals as the majority of its citizens you have effectively created a dictatorship.
'@ Widdows
You don’t see a problem with political invasion?
The government of the day is a representation of the values of the nation, By coming in and helping put a government into place that doesn’t share the same ideals as the majority of its citizens you have effectively created a dictatorship. '
Wtf? How is it political invasion? Political invasion is taking over a country whether the citizens want it or not - see Switzerland as an example. That has not happened over here, the ACP was started by an eAUSTRALIAN citizen and the party is purely offering another alternative to the people, that's all. If it was a takeover you would know about it.
'By coming in and helping put a government into place that doesn’t share the same ideals as the majority of its citizens you have effectively created a dictatorship. '
Wtf again? We haven't put any government in place at all, we weren't even here for the last congressional/presidential elections, well some were (the eAussies of the ACP) and the government was chosen purely by the eAus people. So I'd like to know how we have put a dictatorship in place without even voting in any eAus election bar the PP ones...
I think the reason, you Alex and AW have a problem with the Russians is purely because they're Russians and purely because you don't want them here, they have done nothing at all negative, they have merely helped the ACP get on its feet and in doing so offered the people of eAus more choice in politics and therefore more democracy. Please, tell me what's wrong with that?
@ Widdows,
Correct me if I am wrong but if enough people within eAustralia wanted eCommunism then outside help would not be needed, if however a political party did not have enough support and needs to call in outside help to “get them started”, we have a political invasion.
Are the eCommunists planning on staying and also helping you win seats in the next election? Is that not defeating the purpose of a democracy? Is that not going against the entire principal of Communism?
You have not put a dictatorship in place, but what is expected to happen here? You have asked for eCommunist support from outside eAustralia to help you win votes and gather/keep power.
On one hand you tell us your here to help, but the help is going to be forced on us by outside influences. Where they are from is of no consequence, the fact that a political party is so willing to enforce their ideology is disturbing though.
@ Widdows
Now that’s a dangerous claim, I will ask you of course to show proof that I have a natural dislike or fear of people due to people being from a different country to myself. Also at which point did I refuse to acknowledge the benefits immigration gives a nation?
Thank you for the definition of the word invasion, now if you could attach the word political you will find it takes on another meaning.
At no point have I inferred that they should not be entitled to vote or that any race is inferior to another, you need to be careful with your accusations.
I am not objecting to any political party voting for itself; however I do object to any party that would join up with others outside of their country in an attempt to gain political power in a country.
Let me make an example, let’s say the ACP decides to contact “Manifesto, Chairman of the Executive Committee of the eSocialist Internationale” and he and his group decides that to help further their movement some members decide to come to Australia, close to the voting date, and help out their fellow socialists for the betterment of the people.
Am I xenophobic to objecting to this? And if this example even remotely comes to fruition, at what point is the eAustralian people given their choice?
I am accusing you because it seems to me that you have a problem with the eRussians as a whole for coming here and setting up a party, you seem to think that them voting is taking away choices from eAustralians while not realising that the eRussians NOW ARE eAustralians, that's all that matters, they are here to contribute to society and are here for the long term.
'and he and his group decides that to help further their movement some members decide to come to Australia, close to the voting date, and help out their fellow socialists for the betterment of the people.'
That won't happen - all of the eRussians that I know of believe the revolution must come from the proletariat of that country, they would never send a political takeover force and we would never ask for one.
'Am I xenophobic to objecting to this? And if this example even remotely comes to fruition, at what point is the eAustralian people given their choice?'
No you are not xenophobic, I would have a problem with this as well IF they all left immediately after the election that is, if they chose to move over here and make eAus their home though then I would consider them entitled to vote etc.
I apologise for calling you xenophobic, I was merely misunderstanding you and I have no right to judge you at all, I merely misread your statements and that got my blood up when it shouldn't have.
@Vincent-- "i still gotta do you taytaz, my bad"
What exactly do you do in these "interviews"?
"determined to make things worse"
and the Australian Warlord is a member of Hammer of Thor...i think
I'm still lacking a few days of experience to be joining a party, but when I do I'll give this a re-read.
Choice is always good as long as it doesn't leave our tiny democracy fractured with no chance of a one party majority.
We don't need one party having a majority. Infact if they can't be responsible & work with others then maybe they ain't the people for the job.
The Russians are Australian Citizens now
in fact, their leader is AN AUSTRALIAN who went to Russia when it was communist. They will stay in AUSTRALIA as they live in AUSTRALIA
Quote Taytaz : "and the Australian Warlord is a member of Hammer of Thor...i think"
I'm not quite up with my knowledge of nutty groups but if you're suggesting what I think you're suggesting then I'm completely offended & I will put in a complaint about the allegation to eRepublik administration.
haha,
YOU complain against unfounded allegations 😛
it's a personal observation, not a claim, that you act like somebody from Hammer of Thor
'completely offended & I will put in a complaint about the allegation to eRepublik administration.'
Get a grip, take a chill pill, it's a JOKE, just because you have a sense of humour bypass doesn't mean Taytaz has one as well.
@widdows9000, I'm not sure whether you're aware of what the allegation is. I'm slightly rusty in the details of these things regarding these organisations however taytaz has claimed that I'm a member of a extremely violent European nero-Nazi organisation (they use the Hammer of Thor name due to some ancient Viking god or something). Now excuse me if I don't exactly treat this as a joke.
Everybody should look at Taytaz's allegation & ask yourselves whether you actually want to support people like him.
'Everybody should look at Taytaz's allegation & ask yourselves whether you actually want to support people like him.'
I'll support Taytaz no matter what.
Australian Warlord,
Just as it is a preposterous suggestion that you are Hammer of Thor, it's rdculous to accuse the current administration who BUILT Australia of misconduct!