Thats what you get for helping a friend
DogMaster
only two days ago the shalom party fund published this article.
as the shalom members were trying to help raise the GOLD to re-open the sababa party, some of their members have decided that waiting is not for them so they PTO'd the SHALOM party, while claiming they wanted to merge.
Now i ask you - does running for PP half an hour after joining the party show you wish to work together? i think not.
the worst part is that it seems that nobody from the former sababa members seem to think they have done anything wrong.
this sort of behavior makes me sick. so long to all of you. i hope you enjoy playing a game where human decency no longer exists.
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My condolences, but sh*t happens.
I'm very sorry.
Like Aeroner said,sh*t happans.
Yeah, that was pretty messed. Again, some citizens in eIsrael behave as if they don't want their nation to succeed. You'll just fail if you continue to attack one another like this. I mean, a PTO of one established eIsraeli party by another? F*cked up.
If this really was Sababa, I wish them nothing but future failure.
Best of luck Shalom party--we all know who your real Party President is!
In all reality this was completely Shaloms Fault. How did they not expect this to happen? You wanted to merge with Sababa to expand your political power and you paid the consequences for doing business with them. It was only a few months ago UZP and Shalom were planning to merge but then you guys made a turn for the worst.
How could we expect that while we are offering to help sababa rebuild their home they would steal ours?
Shalom never wanted to merge for political power.never!
Sababa members talked with 2-3 members who said that THEY THINK it would be good to merge. this so called merge was never even discussed with the shalom party members.
I'm not sure that we can call this a PTO...
if we like it or not the former "Sababa" members were invited to merge with Shalom party by PK and together decided to do so, it was not the act of only one guy who used his friends to win elections. We shouls also remember that Sababa decided to change it's ways and after publishing their new platform it was clear that they adapted most of Shalom views on political life in eIsrael
the real PTO almost happened in UZP with the comunist friend of 70md (who is new to eIsrael) almost winning the elections there
I see only one solution now and I hope others will agree...
we must forget about the "old" parties Shalom,Sababa,UZP etc' and start a new political discussion ASAP !
We shouldn't look at people as ex-Sababa or ex-Consolidation now, we should only focus on helping eIsrael 🙂
p.s.
I voted for Daniel but "Sadeh" happens...
DogMaster
I also very unhappy about what is happened to new Shalom. But pls read ISRguy comment, he is 100% right. Like it or not Shalom is gone and it is happened few weeks ago. Also new UZP, is not UZP of Sam Krakower, it is new aggressive noobish monster. We need chose side.
Gavin Wax: aggressive noobish monster? No. He is a good guy.
ISRGuy
PTO = Political Take Over
How is this not a PTO? because it wasn't made by turkey?
"Shalom never wanted to merge for political power.never"
Common, calling it PTO when your party founder invited us publicly and repeated it again today
Superbus, I talking about new-UZP, but it just my IMHO.
One or two people do not represent an entire party. Former Sababa members wanted a party, they took Shalom by force. That's obvious, and there's no real point in trying to argue to the contrary.
I know we'd all like to believe that nothing screwed up happened, but it did, and I'm more than a little dissapointed in the members of Sababa who allowed it, and anyone else who defends it.
Anyway,ISR is right. New game now. New parties. It really sucks. It was really messed. But you'll just have to suck it up and carry on. Best of luck Shalom party.
so Gavin's invitation to UZP doesn't worth too?
Sababa didn't want just a party, we wanted a party with those ppl
and u can ask Benny, Dogmaster and other ppl how we always talk that we/they should move to be in the same party
Benny you have no idea what your talking about so just shut it. I revitalized this party ask anyone. Activity and numbers are up and we will destroy you all. Continue to make these baseless remarks about our party ''Old UZP that" "Sam Krakower this" This party is in its prime and it was never as strong as it is now. Who cares if we have new players in our party. Are you better then us because your party is getting PTOed and basically undergoing a civil war. Pathetic.
ISRguy are you reading what you write?
"the real PTO almost happened in UZP with the comunist friend of 70md (who is new to eIsrael) almost winning the elections there"
You are accusing 70md of communist, when I bet you don't even know what is communism. You've been fed up by that American propaganda from the Red Scare and your acting worst than Joseph McCarthy. You are trying to brainwash people into thinking that communists are always wrong, not saying that 70md is communist but imagine if he was. Communism is the smartest and most fair economic system. It has been proven to be invalid in RL, so why do you mix RL with eRepublik? What if communism works in eRepublik? What if socialism does? Your current bvtt buddies who assume office and try to buy people with their "capitalism" ideas are just power hungry. Look for a second how much they pay for jobs of Skill 1-4 and look how much it costs to buy food. It is not rational and buddy, UZP wants to create government businesses not as monopolies but as incentives for private bussineses to raise their wages and stop being greedy. (Not all are greedy but many)
I found the best suitable party for me, hehe.
@ Daniel, why you overreacting that much? Where did he said that communism is something bad?
Damn, it was World Islamic Union some minutes ago -.-
You tell them, Daniel!
Haha - loving the UZP hatred now that we poon everything 😃
So basically to sum up, Sababa are complete PTOing a'holes, Shalom are weak and useless and ISRguy is still ranting rubbish and not know what he's on about.
What's new?
Elezaar buddy... when I say someones name from Shalom or any other party do I say "Capitalist ISRguy"? No I simply say "ISRguy". It's obvious that other parties have a hard time accepting our economic strategies because all they care for is themselves, they don't care about the people in eIsrael they just care about themselves, their friends and their party members. When they say "communist" before their name that obviously indicates they have an issue with him being communist.
Oh and for the record we're a centre party now - no communism, no capitalism. Just common sense, fairness and a free market 😃
No, you are probably just the overreacting 18 year old teenager, who sees the whole world in extreme colors. Maybe he said "communist buddy" because he did not remember name and communistic ideals were the best way to describe this person. Even if he mented it to be offensive, relax, no need for aggression.
@ Oh and for the record we're a centre party now.
Too bad, communism is fun 😉
EVERYBODY CALM DOWN
😃
All this anger... /me no like 😒
Daniel Ender:
why do you deny that one of UZP candidates for PP is a comunist brought to eIsrael by 70md? he's in eIsrael less then a week and gets many many votes
are you that blind? maybe you were saying "UZP is best" so many times that you don't care about anything else...
lol how does uzp has to do with anything said in this matter ?
No buddy I believe that UZP is the best, that is my opinion but calling someone a communist, even if he is which is perfect to me, is something wrong. You can address him by his name, don't have to address him by "communist" as you are assuming being a communist is something wrong. You also are discriminating against new people, in UZP we believe new and old people are equal, every eIsrael citizen has equal rights and simply because you or anyone else has been here for a long time, doesn't mean you get the right to form a dictatorship.
Also you say he has been in eIsrael for less than a week. Atleast he acts like someone from eIsrael and not like you're acting like someone from RL-USA, just like Joseph McCarthy in the Red Scare.
Question
sabbaba must have at least 100 people or around that number
if everyone even gave half a gold they couldve reopeneded why'd you guys hve to help
I already said it in the Shalom party forum, but I'll say it again: In our pittyful little coutnry the better man doesn't necesarrily win. He who makes sure he talks big and does nothing wins. In eIsrael its all a popularity contest, the one who talks most in FXP is the winner. And because all the little kids in FXP are FOLLOWERS they vote for him, and guess what ? he wins, and his skills and\or experience in the field has nothing to do with him being elected, no matter how unexperienced he may and may not be.
Everyone should recognize this.
Gavin Wax: "Activity and numbers are up and we will destroy you all." - Am i alone seeing something wrong?
Daniel Ender:
you were working very hard these past days supporting UZP party and trying to prove you're the "best" but you're still blind out of love to your leader and refuse to look only at facts.
you calling me "McCarthy" only exposes your imaturaty...
why don't you ask your PP about the dozen pro communist articles he published and the COMMUNIST friends he brought here ?
Really guys, if one of you writes "COMMUNIST" again, i'll put some q5 weapon at your head.