Taxes droop !
Rycerz
Yesterdays congress proposals on lowering the taxation of Food and Weapons Industries PASSED !
Weapons industry
VAT / Import Tax / Income tax
20% / 60% / 20%
Food industry
VAT / Import Tax / Income tax
20% / 99% / 20%
Comments
Not nearly good enough - just look at the employment structure! Over 100 people are working in housing, and only some 40 in foods.
Clearly it\'s because of the 0% income tax on housing.
The government should get it\'s priorities right, and lower taxes for foods\' and weapons\' workers to 0% too.
Income Tax can`t be 0%, i think 15% for food and 20% for other industries would be good decision, but i cant make proposals, only vote.
I too thought it can\'t be set to 0%, but look at the Economy page.
erm edward, not its because the housing industry offered jobs to people before we did
Gifts, and houses get people faster than we can.
PS IM a food company owner.
And as said AGAIN LISTEN EDWARD TO THIS:
Taxes were TEMPORARY. NOW THEY ARE BEING LOWERED.
Just wait you impatient person.
@ edward, just caught you.
Why is YOUR party offering High paying jobs in HOUSING, and HOSPITAL. You said you guys care about food, but YOUR just furthing us FOOD COMPANIES to loose more WORKERS.
Thanks 😉
You caught me on trying to make a living? Oh, the shame...
If the avarage pay in food is higher than in housing, yet the income tax is higher, it is better for me to work in housing. People more often than not caremore about their bellies being full, than about filling other people\'s bellies.
If you claim to take care about this nation so much, your party will work towards lowering the taxes for food production workers in order to get more into the sector.
Which would be greately needed, considering we ran out of cheap food yet again...
You went around my argument, and trying to accuse our party of something else. Nice, but ive sen that argument used by many people.
>If you claim to take care about this nation so much, your party will work towards lowering the taxes for food production workers in order to get more into the sector.
AGAIN FFS, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU WHAT I WILL DO, BUT YOU REFUSE TO LISTEN.
I\'m going to pu it in simple words, so that you can understan😛
DO IT!
And if the reply wasn\'t clear enough for you, I\'ll rephrase it:
We care about food. Make work in food profit, more people work in food. We have more food. Much food, food cheap. We want want lower taxes on food, so food profit and cheap.
Got it now?
Yeah, despite the situation I joined a housing company as well, even though I am not part of the party. At least I get my full pay without taxing. With food prices like that every single CZK counts. Especially since it would take me in the food industry about a week to earn the wage I receive right now.
Vaclav, I think I understand you, but please don\'t blame people for acting like they would be in a free market enviroment. I thought that a free market is what we are aiming for, isn\'t it? Even though you are making an effort, please understand that at least a few of us are not confident that the current crisis is going to be overcome. There should be more of an organized effort to support food industry in my opinion.
Eg. hire someone who will be able to contact new players with offer of job. You can\'t expect them all to read Cesky Today and all comments on all recent articles.
Or if wages in the food industry are not competitive enough, consider goverement support for a limited amount of time. It is good that inflation has been battled, but why not pump a few percent of the earned CZK back into the economy to get it going? 🙂
That is, if we haven\'t burned the entire treasury yet. 😉
Why DO we need an income tax, anyway? I mean, we tax the money people make and we tax the money people spend. And when both of those taxes are high, no one can afford anything.
Right now, I work in the travel industry with a skill of 3. I get as much money as someone in the housing industry with a skill of 1 after taxes.
Why don\'t we just follow the example of the housing industry and just cut the income tax complete, placing it all on the VAT tax?
The weapon tax is better than before, yes. Maybe not the food tax, because we import most of it and raising it will cause some people to starve, but the weapons is better.
>DO IT!
DO I LOOK LIKE I AM THE CURRENT TSAR? THAT IS MY POINT. I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER BACI.
Then why do you get so angry, when I demand lowering the taxes? It seems you treat every criticism of your party\'s econimical program as my personal attack vn you.
Well that\'s not what I do.
I\'m attacking the general incompetence of the ruling class and it\'s incapabilty to grasp the importance of low taxes as a stimulus to the economic development of this, and every other, nation.
Although I do admit your fondness on making a fuss about our criticizing your party\'s program and treating it as a personal issue, as you seem to be doing, does cause me to lose any good opinion I may have had of you.
Because YOUR refusing to understand that these taxes were for ONLY A SHORT TIME. And the old party was PLANNING ON TACKING THEM BACK DOWN.
YOU have been insulting me personally, and blaming ME. You just thought that i was tsar, now your chaning your story saying you meant this tsar..
How do you expect me to react? We have new people constantly blaming me for some reason, and calling me names! Then you come and further critizise me because im the party leader, and you think that i can controll it somehow..
>, does cause me to lose any good opinion I may have had of you.
Proves my cause, you come here start accusing me of things, then say that you have a bad oppinion on me?
Maybe i should have taken my 600 gold, moved to another country, and got rich? But instead i decided to help, so people like YOU will have a country. Now you blame ME for everything that is wrong with here.
You arrogance astounds me that you believe that since the current government is doing one thing wrong (which has been helping) you blame me because im the party leader, then you change your story..
First you blame me for everything, then change your story, and again attack me saying im taking it personal? YOU ATTACKED ME SAYING IM NOT DOING ENOUGH... How do you expect me to react?
again this post is saying how they are lowering taxes, and again you attack them
So do you or dont you want taxes lowered??
You don\'t know what I thought, so don\'t tell me I thought you were the President (the proper name for a country leader). However I always regarded you as a leader of your party that has A PROGRAM, and since I think the program is wrong, I feel alright to criticize it.
Second of all I DO UNDERSTAND THE TEMPORARY NATURE OF THE IMPOSED TAXES, SO STOP REPEATING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I think the introduction of such taxes was a mistake in the first place, as time was wasted on interventionist policies that HAD brought some effect, but not the effect that could be achieved by SIMPLY lowering the taxes in the first place.
\"Maybe i should have taken my 600 gold, moved to another country, and got rich? But instead i decided to help, so people like YOU will have a country. Now you blame ME for everything that is wrong with here.\"
Oh, boo-hoo, the ungrateful people...
If you want to help, focus on investing your vast amounts of gold instead of politics, because you are defending a lost cause - you\'re just either too proud or naive to admit it.
And don\'t flood the forums, it\'s a behavior typical for n00bs, not old players and presidents of largest party\'s in the country.
Please do not fight about something that is currently implemented !
Mr. Wilk You want the taxes lowered ? They are being lowered as we speak !
You think the tax increases in the past were a miastake ? Yes they were ! And everyone agrees on that !
You attack Vaclav for doing nothing ? No ! it\'s just that the changes need time!! EVOLUTION not REVOLUTION
I would also like to point out, it was ME who wanted to fight for your POLISH independence, it is ME saving up gold so i can help YOU get independence, but i guess haveing your own country is bad too?
Even though your about me says \"fighting for polands independence\" looks more like your fighting against.
Besides I strongly belive that as soon as we get the situation stable the current goverment will do the right actions to end the Food shortage crisis, reduce the inflation, increase wages and create a country that is worth living in !
Just give them some time !
Vaclav as I spoke with many Polish Citizens in Czech Republic and they were al very l greatefull for your efforts in Polish couse. Please do not loose hearth in implementing changes to this country because of little criticism ! Your actions for Polish people will give Czech Republic a loyal ally and a true friend !
i will never go against my friends the polish, you have my word on that.
Uhm, sorry if I offended as well. I was only trying to point out that there doesn\'t seem to be enough food to support a growing population.
Vaclav, I certainly have respect for what you have dedicated to eCzech, but please understand that as a new player I am facing a wage/food price deficit straight away. I am trying to understand the game mechanics, and I am trying to offer suggestions on what could possibly be done. Of course, I may have it wrong, but am I wrong in stating that there isn\'t enough cheap food for the population?
Yes, people can go and buy CZK for gold they may have gotten, but for start I don\'t even know if I am going to hurt your efforts if I buy/sell at a certain rate. Secondly, right now I would be buying imported food (which is supposedly hurting the economy?)
I am still learning the game, and I apologize for seeming arrogant of the economical facts in game. But I would really appreciate if anyone (Tsar, prime minister, congressman, US member) could explain to me as a noob if I will be able to feed myself in a week from now, relying only on my wages?
DaLe i didnt mean anything bad to you =[
Its just, we had a massive BOOM in population, and isntead of working food most went to gifts, moving, and housing.. Now we have few food workers, to supply this, i need more workers 😕\
Opponent: I don\'t like this, because it causes this, and we should do that instead.
Supporter: ZOMG!!! YOU UNGRATEFUL IDIOTCRETINDREWCAREY!!!!SHUT UP!!! YOU ARE TO STUPID, I WON\'T TALK TO YOU!!!!!!11111!!!!eleven!!!
that is completley wrong, and the opposite, we believed talking to them, then they started posting insults against us.
>
Rycerz and some oters, as I have noticed, will listen to our criticism and are willing to discuss our arguments and give us counter-arguments. You prefer to make a martyr of yourself.
again, unlike him, you decide to attack me personally.
>That does not apply to the discussion. Stop trying to emotionally blackmail Poles into supporting you, okay? Nice twisting my words there. Im talking about, you are critizing everything i do, when i was the only one who wanted polands freedom. And you are calling me names.
My party is tired of repeating themselves to you. We have told you many many many many many many many times. That taxes are being lowered, as they always planned to. But you decide to attack us insulting us personally.
VOTE US: And the new party leader will take all taxes away.
You just DON\'T LISTEN do you?
\"again, unlike him, you decide to attack me personally.\"
I NEVER did that.
\"Nice twisting my words there. Im talking about, you are critizing everything i do, when i was the only one who wanted polands freedom.\"
THAT. DOES. NOT. APPLY. TO. TAXES.
Damn, is there a way to enlarge the fonts, so that he gets it?
\"And you are calling me names.\"
Names like for example...?
\"My party is tired of repeating themselves to you. We have told you many many many many many many many times. That taxes are being lowered, as they always planned to.\"
And I\'m tired of hearing the same thing OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
\"But you decide to attack us insulting us personally.\"
Every criticism of you fiscal policies is an insult then? Damn, I am such a rude person then, I never realized having ANY IDEA about taxation vs. economy is an insult to you...
\"VOTE US: And the new party leader will take all taxes away.\"
VOTE U.S. - after the elections we\'ll come up with another cunning plan to screw with your wages, but we hope you\'ll forget about it before the next elections.
You just DON\'T LISTEN do you?
\"again, unlike him, you decide to attack me personally.\"
I NEVER did that.
\"Nice twisting my words there. Im talking about, you are critizing everything i do, when i was the only one who wanted polands freedom.\"
THAT. DOES. NOT. APPLY. TO. TAXES.
Damn, is there a way to enlarge the fonts, so that he gets it?
\"And you are calling me names.\"
Names like for example...?
\"My party is tired of repeating themselves to you. We have told you many many many many many many many times. That taxes are being lowered, as they always planned to.\"
And I\'m tired of hearing the same thing OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
\"But you decide to attack us insulting us personally.\"
Every criticism of you fiscal policies is an insult then? Damn, I am such a rude person then, I never realized having ANY IDEA about taxation vs. economy is an insult to you...
\"VOTE US: And the new party leader will take all taxes away.\"
VOTE U.S. - after the elections we\'ll come up with another cunning plan to screw with your wages, but we hope you\'ll forget about it before the next elections.
And I\'m tired of hearing the same thing OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
We are tired of your spamming our articles with taxes complaining.
VOTE U.S. - after the elections we\'ll come up with another cunning plan to screw with your wages, but we hope you\'ll forget about it before the next elections.
Again you dont realise i am the new party leader, not the old one, so please stop referring to their actions to mine.
check-mate.
Edward Wilk | Aug 13, 2008 12:43 |
Delete \"We are tired of your spamming our articles with taxes complaining.\"
Why? Because the truth hurts?
\"Again you dont realise i am the new party leader, not the old one, so please stop referring to their actions to mine.\"
The president of state belongs to your party. He implemented this ridiculous \"3 step program\". Now you\'re going to bring the program to an end. You\'re like Good Cop/Bad Cop, and you\'remeant to be the \"good\" one
\"check-mate.\"
Thank you. I too think you should stop making yourself laughable.
Why? Because the truth hurts?
Because you yourself said you hate when people post same thing over and over and over but now its ok when YOU do it? That k ind of hypocritical
The president of state belongs to your party. He implemented this ridiculous \"3 step program\". Now you\'re going to bring the program to an end. You\'re like Good Cop/Bad Cop, and you\'remeant to be the \"good\" one
again, i changed policies, and i wasnt even a party member when he was elected 😉
hank you. I too think you should stop making yourself laughable.
I could say the same, your arrogance makes me laugh. You really are an outkast.. You make our polish brothers look bad.
\"Because you yourself said you hate when people post same thing over and over and over but now its ok when YOU do it? That k ind of hypocritical\"
Your refusal to accept my reasons for keeping explaining you why should you just stop repeating yourself is pointless, because you turn it against me and call me a hypocrite. I guess you just don\'t want to listen.
\"again, i changed policies, and i wasnt even a party member when he was elected 😉\"
I must give in on that. I hope you will implement those policies then.
\"I could say the same, your arrogance makes me laugh. You really are an outkast.. You make our polish brothers look bad.\"
Why, because I dare too speak up? Sure the Poles shoul djust vote for you, but never contest you.
Obviously there are the Poles that make others look bad because they don\'t know where their place is, and Poles that are made look bad, because of the ones like me.
You know what? I\'d rather be the first kind.
Now stay away from my Polishness (although I know it\'s quite an appealing argument to you, being so irrelevant), because THAT is a personal matter, that has nothing to do with my beliefs.