Shame on eTurkey, and why you shouldn't bring RL into the Game
Amun Nefer
First off, I would like to give my thoughts on the mixing of real life situations and the game. This is a moral question that has to do with the personal character of some players.
We all know it's fun to occasionally bring RL into eRep. Found an eSeal team, set up an eMeals on Wheels or do something else that makes you feel fun roleplaying that organisation. Sometimes it is even fun to invade a nation over age-old disputes. Hell, I consider Poland invading Germany to be hilarious, or the destruction of eFrance to be somewhat amusing, no offence to you guys. What happens though when something tragic occurs in real life and lives are lost? What happens if an e-nation takes advantage of this get a babyboom? That is when I have to say that the leaders of that e-nation need to re-evaluate their own personal morals.
This is the case in the last week with eTurkey. An event in real life occured that created a great deal of controversy and in which some of their citizens died. I won't go into my opinion of this because it A, negates the point of this article, and B, I have been over this topic a hundred times with various idiots and intelligent people. Here is how this event relates to eRepublik though. eTurkey decided and publicly stated that they would invade eIsrael in retaliation in order to get a babyboom. They attacked Israel and this of course brought many new citizens into both eIsrael and eTurkey. eIsrael is down to only one region which will most likely fall. Now I love Turkey, it is quite possibly one of my most favourite nations in the world. I must ask myself though, what kind of a person if they are truly hurt by a tragedy in real life then takes advantage of said tragedy to get ahead in a game? Would you use the excuse of a parent dying to win at football? Most of you would probably say no. I do wonder who would think such a thing is a good idea. I am an anthropologist in real life, and I can say that in no human culture is that considered acceptable or sane behaviour. So I ask you eTurkey: Why? Why almost mock such a tragedy by using it to get ahead in eRepublik?
With this I issue a call to arms to everyone, including fellow brothers, you know who you are. eIsrael is under invasion to settle an RL score. We have all heard the joke: The only way for them to retaliate is by attacking eIsrael, a nation in a game, and the like. However, eTurkey is at this very moment endangering the fun of hundreds of players. We know it's wrong for them to use this event, given how fresh it is in our minds, and we need to make sure they realise their are consequences for such things. eIsrael will probably be destroyed in this round, there is little doubt. eIsrael will rebuild though and be stronger as a result.
"😉
on't Tread on Me" --- a famous U.S. saying of defiance.
I encourage anyone who feels these actions by eTurkey are even remotely wrong to move to Jerusalem District or to Beersheba and help in a future RW. We might lose this battle, but eTurkey will lose the war when their plan backfires!
Show people that just because you think it is right to attack the electronic version of a real country, it does not mean that you will attain victory.
Lastly, I would like to issue a request that in the future such recent tragedies not be so horribly taken advantage of for personal gain. It's unfair, it wrecks the game and it's just plain wrong.
Amun Nefer,
Acting Minister of Foreign Affairs for eSouth Africa
P.S. IF you do talk about the event I am referencing in comments, I WILL report you, don't think I don't read comments 😉
You might be laughing now, but you'll be very annoyed when you get an FP. :3
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I agree with you in 100%. Shame on eTurkey.
Voted.
If the eUSA had used September the 11th (I know the year it happened, I'm making a point here...) in the same manner to garner support for an invasion of the eMiddle East, almost every other eNation would be outraged, as would many of the American players who lost loved ones. Tragedy is not to be taken lightly, and CERTAINLY not to be used to take advantage in ANYTHING, not to mention some stupid online game. VOTED SO HARD.
~ Geno Garon
voted, although i have no idea what ur on about.
poor ignorant me. 😛
Phoenix will look for any excuse to destroy the people around them, they latch on to it like a leach.
Voted
K gimme some wepz and a moving ticket I'm at work will fight from my cell
This war is not about irl. Do you remember there was a problem when we attack eisrael first time ? Answer is no.
Also this war is not about eIsrael our problem is eIsrael s MPPs. So its about our security. ( and Liaoning maybe 🙂 )
this article do not make sense to me, atleast.
perhaps he forget
Spain Vs France
India Vs Pakistan
Indonesia Vs Malay
I believe that the eTurkey goverment has their own decisions to judge on what ever they would like to do. They could use the political media of the real life in terms of babyboom. So its not a shame of the eGovernment of eTurkey to use the Real life matter in the game. People who sign up in to this game knows the facts of differences between Reality and Online world.
Its their own marketing guide to use the Real life issues to import new citizens in to the game. Of course not to mention that eTurkey and the citizens of the eRepublik are wise enough about what is going on. Its a shame to see a user to write such thing and blame the government on what is going on. In erepublik Power : Population. Its the fault of the eJew society to not defend and grow their country with baby boom. Its pity to see that eIsrael high ranked citizens to be eagerly growing their powers in the eUS soil. eIsrael should have blame their selves before blaming the eTurkish government.
I respect what you are commenting about though you can not yell out and say "F you do talk about the event I am referencing in comments, I WILL report you, don't think I don't read comments" you your self has done an issue regarding to even write about the blame / shame issue about Real life and simulation eRepublik. So, don't tell people not to write how they used their Real life issues to pour people in to the game by attacking eIsrael.
I have print screened my writing and if any case I will get a forfeit people could see that I have nothing to get a forfeit for.
I am proud to be an eTurkish citizen and I am proud to grow our foreign affairs either in terms of "war/pear".
-Osman Bolukbasi
Amun its not about RL. you must check eTR & eIsrael history... and next time try to talk with sides before write an article like this because eIsrail know too its not about RL...
Israel's gettin' pwned lolololol
GO TURKEY YOU ROCK
Shame on with eCRY EDEN.....
I know that u r very angry but don't cry too much.
As you said "it is just a game"... don't take it real and be an eTürkiye citizen 🙂
Greece is opponent to us in the game. Why? cuz of RL.
India is opponent to Pakistan in the game. Why? cuz of RL.
And u can find many examples...
Don't try to trade on emotions! Don't pull out all the pathetic stop! Just play the game.
because of your attack we lost q5 hospital and 900 gold for recapture all of it.
So why are you suprise when you get that big attack?
GG, if you wanna you can work at my companies 🙂
Are you high Amun ? and also JP ?
If you call this war as "brining RL situtation to erep", you must be blind dude. We had an open war against you already, but we offered "PEACE" 2-3 weeks ago. But, of course you rejected it. That means "you want war" in diplomacy. So we gave a war to you. It's really simple thing to understand. I explained this war & reasons to my cousin, who is 7 years-old, and he absolutely understand. He said me: "You must shift+delete eIsrael, cos their MPPs will cause bad things for you bro."
Luv ya <3
Turn back and look your articles EDEN.....
its not so far to understand!!!!!???
Your MoFA told us in the official Israel chan that was the reason. When I say war I mean this current incursion into eIsrael, most nations in eRep are at war with each other most of the time, lol. Please try to learn the different meaning of words in the English language. kthxbai
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YEEEEESSSSSS!!!!! We offered "PEACE" 2-3 weeks ago. But you rejected it! WHY MEN WHY? Why do you take RL into this game?!
Don't be blind! Don't try to trade on emotions! Don't pull out all the pathetic stop! Just play the game.
I have to agree in principle that RL issues should not be brought in the game. Such tragedy which is so fresh in people's mind is difficult to keep out altogether from cropping up, still it should not be the driving force behind any type of game play.
I'm however firmly against the labeling of a whole country based on the decisions of their leadership or some, even most of their players. Weather RL or in a game, such "you're all alike" stance, creates and mitigates situation like the current one, where personnel responsibility is substituted with group responsibility.
Also I'd like to point out to people who are going even further and labeling the whole of Pheonix, that for long time now, eRomania has been using propaganda in eBulgaria trying to incite RL hatred towards some of it's neighbors as the basis of it's further game play. It is unethical to say the least to criticize eTurkey, but not eRomania for this. I'm aware however that the people who have been driving this propaganda campaign are not representative of the whole eRomanian community, so I'm not holding all of eRomania liable for it.
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Edens People !! No israel No cry 🙂
Mind your own business.
"I consider Poland invading Germany to be hilarious"
Isn`t that how Poland got its babyboom?
I don`t think it would be so easy for patriots, nationalists and militarists to make a connection between real life issues and the game, if the game wasn`t already to a certain extent focused on their ideologies. If the accent was more on the economic and political modules (and if wars would affect the economies negatively instead of positively), an attack wouldn`t be the first thing to think of. In addition to that the countries are copies of the real ones, so it`s not very surprising that rl-situations provoke reactions in the game, especially the ones that remind people of the fact that when it comes to geopolitical and economic interests, the ethics and moral of the countries` elites have very little in common with the ethics and moral of their populations (which means that feelings like shame are only for us, the sheep).
In my opinion the best way to treat extremists (i mean people who try to radicalize the debate, not the eTurkish government, because it`s not really clear whether it was really the rl-situation which made them attack) of any kind is to stay calm and ignore them as much as possible. Don`t try to set double standards. Every country that has ever been occupied in eRepublik, had to go through this, and finally made it back to the map after a while, and here it will be no different. At least in a browser game no one can get seriously hurt.
wowww... 597 new troops in one day..
ok everybody turn all troops back from israel...
ill give a bacbecue party in CG... we'll cook grek balls 🙂🙂
why are you crying so much? it is just a game? you attacked us we attacked you. i think you are mixing rl and game
and also we are protecting ourselves 🙂
Finding ePolands move against eGermany justifiable, finding eFrance being wiped off the map justifiable and blaming eTurkiye for this operation is PURE hypocrisy.
Facts about current war:
-We have an open war with Israel, hence we have the right to attack any time we feel ready for it.
-Israil has 7 MPP's against us that we find disturbing and need to drop them!
-Because of Israeli blocking we have lost our most valuable region to Greece a month ago and our economy collapsed, our citizens had to migrate to other countries to find jobs.
- eIsrael rejected our peace offer and decided to stay as a foe..
IMO our attack on Israil may be influenced by RL issues by only 10%.. rest 90% is purely about the issues within the game.
shame on CRYiers!
new idea that is gaining ground . İts e-idiotizm. Avaible e-america and e-israil. U should listen "no woman no cry" . İts about u. mucxxx. we like u. Just wait ur turn.
Loser speech,if israel won this war we probably see articles like "We beat you RL and in the game,you're losers"
this is not related to RL check out the peace proposal given by eTurkiye. eIsrael is the one rejected it. not that it matters because it is SIMPLY NOT RL.
we are doing this only for babyboom,actually we dont have problem with israelite people...
@sfire and cRaCkErq
Don't waste your breath,these people only sees what they want to see.
pathetic
israil didnt accept our peace purpouse 2 weeks ago.
"Sometimes it is even fun to invade a nation over age-old disputes. Hell, I consider Poland invading Germany to be hilarious, or the destruction of eFrance to be somewhat amusing, no offence to you guys. "
Why is it hilarous that Poland invades Germany in order to get a babyboom but Turkey invading Israel is a problem!? More people died in the invasion of Poland by Germany than in this last event between Israel and Turkey. S
Sorry, though i might agree on not mixing irl events with a game, this article is too biased for me even to vote it.
"We have all heard the joke: The only way for them to retaliate is by attacking eIsrael, a nation in a game, and the like."
Yes, i'm sure Poland attacked Germany for the lulz. It had nothing to do with retaliatons related to World War II.. Germany just happened to be next to them. It was a coincidence.
"However, eTurkey is at this very moment endangering the fun of hundreds of players."
Really? "Since you found the destruction of eFrance to be somewhat amusing", myself, i find the complete and total obliteration of e Isreal an hilarious situation (no offence to you guys). And i'm sure there are countless players who think like me.
See? Being biased rocks 🙂
@riberio
Adamsın 🙂
Why dont you cry me a river?
This has nothing to do with rl but with everything what happened 3 weeks before this in erupblik.
And the fact we getting a babyboom by the things which happened irl is just an advantage for us
now go shoot yourself lol
Cry baby cry baby!
If there is someone to blame it's Eden and the eUS for not being able to put up an adequate defense.
I mean... i can't even see Greece blocking Turkey 😉... that shows how much the World cares about eIsrael...
Cry baby cry
Go Home !
good job amun for forfeit points!
amunıskiim 🙂
go back to your south africa
stop wasting our time with this nonsense .... so called 'article'
I love anthropologists in real life
nope, its not about real life. we are in phx and israel is in eden, like greece.
then, when we were fighting against greece for central greece high iron region, israel attacked us to block our battles. so they deserved to erased.
dont think that easily?
thank you israel i can lvl up with your help hehhehehhe
Shameeee usssss 😃😃
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you deserved this occupation..
If all the countries in the game were named randomly not with the actual countries with their right place on world map, your argument would be valid. However this is not the case, of course there are connections with RL to some extend. That just makes the game more entertaining.Turkish people, including the players here mourns for the people that lost their lives in the event. I believe it is actually quite arrogant of you to talk about turks not being respectful to this event.