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Socialist Freedom... two ideas side by side that collide with each other

Get a grip. It is a name of a Party in a fking game. Sp please untwist your panties before you hurt yourself

eRep is Real Life, bro.

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Great american patriot this Bakunin

1. It's a browser game
2. RL American ideas on socialism are nothing like actual true RL socialism
3. see point 1

Totally agree.
In general, Americans are a bit too naive when it comes to socialism. They have never experienced it and they don't really learn in schools what disasters socialism has generated in the world. They do not understand the connection between socialism and the world's greatest criminals: Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Castro, etc.

America, where communism is when the government does stuff.

Alegretto - you, too, demonstrate a p*ss poor understanding of RL socialism. Plenty of modern European states follow the socialist model (NOT faux-communism like Stalin, Lenin, Castro, et al, and not dictatorship-with-a-wrong-name like Hitler et al).

Just look at all the nations who know what it actually means (like up in Scandanavia and present-day northern Europe) with things like socialized medicine and schemes to make sure the disadvantaged get taken care of by the state through the collective taxes taken into the state.

Guessing you're one of those people who thinks "Freedom" is bankrupting people over medical needs and allowing HOAs to kick people out from housing that they own 😛

You made my case. You have little idea what "socialism" or "comunism" means. You know just 10-15 % of the use of this word and confuse it with "social" or "society"
And invent words like real or fake comunism.

People on the fringes of society feel frustrated by their neighbor's bigger house, his nicer car and even his happier family.
For him it seems impossible to have what the other has, and he doesn't realize that his own attitude is the only obstacle.

Anyone who promotes any kind of socialism, Hitler's or Mao's, Stalin's or Mussolini's, becomes attractive to these people. Among them a lot of former prisoners, thieves and swindlers, criminals and assassins.
That is why any form of socialism becomes violent quite quickly. But until you experience it yourself, you don't understand. Lean from me, I really know much better than many people.

Alegretto - you are obviously a RL right wing USA citizen with views like those.

I, on the other hand, am originally from northern europe so actually _know_ what it is like to live somewhere with socialized medicine and citizen safety nets to prevent tent cities in the thousands of people happening. Northern Europe is socialist. It works. Get over it.

I actually lived in socialism for many more years than you can imagine. Instead, you didn't get a minute to experience socialism on your own skin. No nordic country in Europe has experienced something like this. Not even Sweden, which 50 years ago experienced a quasi-bankruptcy situation with its majority state economy (55-58% state-owned production) and then switched to a much more efficient economy.
Almost all nordic countries were and are constitutional monarchies with a free market economy (or capitalism if we have to use a term invented by Marx)


I know you are confusing them, but social democracy is completely different from socialism.

And the things you were describing were not socialism at all.

Of course not. And this is because your image of socialism does not exist in reality and has never been realized anywhere,

For the average person, socialism only managed to show itself in all its splendor: brutal and poor.

As you only seem to be here to be argumentative, I'm just letting you know I'm not replying to you again after this... life is too short to deal with your delusions 🙂

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All the above is true.
We like fun.

Oh why not... Just to put a few more pins into the "OMG SO-cialism!!" vodoo doll... it should probably be noted that...

First, the SFP has no ideaiogical litmus test for members. Folks' understanding of what "socialism" means, or should mean, or is, or could be, or could be in a silly browser game, varies tremendously even within the SFP club house. It is a left-leaning fun house.

Second, we have kept the term "socialism" in the party name for mamy years now mainly to annoy right-wingers and fox-news-libertarians who were exposed to too much Ayn Rand in their youth. We think it is hilarious how they get their panties in a giant twist over it.

Third, the "official" (in-game) ideology of the party is far-left. You can make of that whatever you like. Frankly, such labels in eRep are meaningless outside of a little role-playing. In the current SFP constitution, it is rather strongly implied that our political orientation (such as it is) is anarcho-syndicalism (and not marxism-leninism or maoism or trotskyism, for example), which, of course, can easily be understood as a synonym for a free society with strong bonds of social solidarity, or what one might call.... wait for it... "socialist freedom". Left-libertarian is another word for it, but that can cause so much cognitive dissonance among certain Americans that it becomes counter-productive.


My dear friend Alegretto, trust me, we have heard it all before 1,000 times. 🙂 Let's be happy that the e-USA is big enough for several tribes, OK?

Even the RL sheep

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