Serbian MoFA on the RA topic
Srecko Ilic
I've been asked to make public the Serbian government opinion on this topic, and thus I've written this article, a declaration, a manifesto, whatever you prefer to call it.
Quite a lot of time passed since the Spanish supported by their EDEN buddies occupied France. After the Lyne Faynel fiasco and PEACE dismemberment, France wasn't regarded as our most trustworthy ally but I, personally always had some sympathy for the French cause, because i knew how it was to see you country occupied and weak.
However a lot of things change since then, and Phoenix together with Entente liberated French territories, and driven out Spaniards and Poles out of France. Allthough I, as said previously, always had sympathy for the French, even when some Serbians were supportive for Spanish occupation, as they felt betrayed by France, i lobbied and had written articles to liberate France.
Now after everything Serbia and Phoenix has done for it, France greatly disappointed me.
Simply insane tolls on the rent of RA are ludicrous and unbelievable.
3x 1600 gold for a High wood region, and countless other tolls for a 3 month rent. Seriously is that how allies treat allies?
Phoenix spent at least 6000 gold to liberate RA and AQ (not counting other regions and swaps) and you guys are asking for more money that has been spent.
But where would be France now without it's allies in Phoenix?
For obvious reasons, I think that you guys would be learning Spanish and Polish if there wasn't for PHX. Someone would say that this is arrogant, but I assure you it is not, as much as you deny it, it is clear that there would be no France if Phoenix didn't liberate it. The costs that Phoenix had in operations of liberating France were incredibly large. I doubt that there would be any France, if there wasn't for Phoenix, so learning how to discuss deals with your allies and as montaigne said, learning to make compromises, should be the no.1 priority of France. It is easy to be greedy and self-righteous when you France is liberated entirely, with only one nation in control of one region, and that nation being an ally of France.
As i see it, Hungary isn't asking for a gratitude deal, or free rent of RA forever. No. They are asking for a fair and honest deal, the kind of a deal that is made between allies and friends.
I've helped France numerous times, as much as i could. I donated all of my savings (~30 gold) when you were down to 1 region , I lobbied in Serbia to defend France when the Spaniards attacked, but now the French government is wrong.
This is no time to be selfish and greedy.
France can be angry with everyone around them, but you should ask yourselves, if everyone is mad at you, is it problem with them, or with you?
Think about it, and hopefully everyone will resolve this issue normally and friendly.
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~Srecko, Serbian MoFA
Comments
prvi
Very interesting... 1600 gold a month?!?!
Thats not iron you know.There is nothing you can do with 2 wood regions !Get real if it wasn't for Phoenix you would still be under polish and spanish occupation .And Phoenix helped you even if your not in Phoenix and betrayed us some time ago .Hungary wants to rent it after helping you free it and you ask for 1600 gold a month? 800 gold should be satisfying and even that is a lot for a wood region!
Deputy Serbian MoFA :3
I never liked French, but in other hand i wanted them to be liberated, now i have wish to annex French with Phoenix... -.-
HAIL SPAIN
France dont be a hypocrite!
reward your allies..
Thank you friend for your support! o/
India is getting 800 for high iron
I think 1600 is way too much for wood. Just to remind you already have one high wood region
think about it
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French
Well its not like we liberated France just to help France.... Same how EDEN does not try to take LK just to help China.
It was done to weaken EDEN too.
But still the amount of gold France asks is unbelivable, USA gives India 800 gold per month (used to be 600) for an IRON region, not wood....
Listen dude, your government signed the deal. And a deal is a deal. Btw, i thought it was only a hungarian-french affair ?
Lyne Faynel for president!
Not to mention its is Indias only iron region not like how France has 2 high wood.
France you can either join Pheonix and expect help and support to be granted without any demands, or you can stay neutral/friendly but then you have to give something back, either military or financial support, or to loan a region.
lol RA gratuit ?! faut arreter de rever
Potier, I didn't sign anything, and yes it is a Hungarian-French affair but it's having an impact on all of us, so it is in our interest to be resolved as soon as possible.
However I'm deeply worried that history could repeat itself and end badly for everyone like it did last time we had disagreements (i.e. Spanish occupation of France).
~Srecko
"3x 1600 gold for a High wood region, and countless other tolls for a 3 month rent"
Where did you see that?? Actually nobody knows waht is the deal.
If you have problems about this rent, please negociate with our government.
But why Hungary accepted this deal if it was not a good one for them ?
But there is much more companies in RA than in Karnata. Which means much more profit for the owner country. So a bigger loan fee is logical, no ?
And you take eUSA as exemple, but the situation is different. eIndia is a poor little country. eFrance is the 10th country of the eWorld, who can make more than 2M damages in one battle. With a bigger population too.
We fought for Phoenix since december, asking nothing in exchange. We spent a LOT of gold too to help you. If we weren't here, or if we fought at EDEN side, LionKing should have fail against EDEN.
I feel pretty disappointed by this attitude of France. I wasn't playing the game when you guys betrayed us, but if I was I guess I would feel pretty much the same as I feel now, very disappointed. You should reconsider who your allies are, and start behaving accordingly.
lepuskasto piskaras
@Vince92
Being the Minister of Foreign Affairs in Serbia, has it's intelligence benefits ^.^ . I talked with several people who have better knowledge about the deal, from the Hun govt.
And the argument of "you have 2 high wood give one of them" is silly. It's not the number of high regions which is important : it's the number of companies on them.
Our government will LOVE to give Aquitaine to eHungary with a lower fee and for more time if Hungary gives back RA instead, i'm sure of that.
Mislim da ne bi trebalo da se mešamo al ajd....
Nego...
Zar ne postoje novine ministarstva spoljnih poslova za ove stvari???
Hah, vole ljudi da dolaze do MM medalja na ovaj način.... Tužno...
P.s. Ovo govorim kao totalno apolična ličnost.
And why don't you speak directly with our government ?
We cannot decide for them.
Are you sure about this sum? Because in a JO, our govnerment said that the deal was 10% (or 15 I don't remember) of their profits. And not 1600 golds.
@Luke Magitem yes that could be the solution but if you haven't noticed Aquitaine borders Spain .What's stopping Spain from attacking the region MPP's maybe?They cant mega tank and take the region and then what?All over again?
A man who can count, ohh yeah!
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Luke Magitem u mean dead polish and spanish firms? lol
Srecko, they need money for Lyne Faynel back. She dont wanna back if tresor is empty.
Lyne Faynel for president!
lol
Vince actually the percentage that was discussed was 25% , also the 1600 gold sum was later been put on the table as much as I'm aware and informed about it.
@Chopp
Provalio si ga Chopp to je razlog 😁
I think that we should find a solution, but we, french civilians, cannot decide instead of our government, so please ask us to negociate with you.
" Vince actually the percentage that was discussed was 25% "
No, it's 15 %.
Potier that is a member of our government write this on an article:
"15% of the national revenue per month, 1600g minimum & 2300 maximum, Hungary Have RA during 3 months."
Look, sincerely you have Aquitaine which is also a high wood region, why do you need the other one? I understand that you want to see your country whole but Hungarians will not be there forever, they will be there just until they occupy another high region, their economy is devastated since the loss of Heilongjiang and they are one of the strongest countries in the world. You don't have that many land workers as well. Be reasonable. We need strong Hungary so we can deal with EDEN together!!!
I have just learnt now, that France liberated the Phoneix from EDEN occupation. It looks I was absent for 6-7 months, I missed the moment.
25% ...
eFrance can let RA to Hungary for nothing (3-6 months) because without Phoenix, Aquitaine and RA will be occupied.
@Luke Magitem - the profit can not be profit if those firms are empty. No? Rhone Alps was occupied by Poles and it had more land workers. Do you have that many land workers to make those firms work? Do you have where to sell all that wood? Construction workers?
I hope our both governments will find a solution for everyone.
All the eWorld will give his opinion about the deal right now. Really a funny game.
Somehow people here don't understand that 95% of companies in RA will soon shut down or will be sold because they can no longer sell products to Poland or Spain and im pretty sure they don't want to fuel Hungary's economy...
@Kreuziger..yes it is
a deal is a deal. If the Hungarians do not have warned of our agreement, so it is a problem of internal communication in PHX this is by no means the fault of France.
It's 15% sorry.
That we have anotehr wood regions isn't an argument. French and Hungarian governement made a deal, the deal will make richer both countries as France will have gold for renting the regions to huns ans huns will earn money with this regions because Ra will boost their economy, instead of fighting for silly things why we are not happy to have two riccher countries than few days ago and a weaker EDEN.
Phoenix-Entente hat trick, EDEN FAIL. You play the game of EDEN by flamming about something both governments accept
@ luke magitem
"We fought for Phoenix since december, asking nothing in exchange. We spent a LOT of gold too to help you. If we weren't here, or if we fought at EDEN side, LionKing should have fail against EDEN."
yes you did fight for phoenix, but only because it was in your interest and because phoenix was fighting for your liberation
But it's useless to cry on us because french civilians didn't take part of the negociations about this deal.
This deal was made and signed by our both governments, so if you discoverded that this deal have a problem, please ask our both governments to improve it instead of accusing us to betray you, because we are not responsable of what's happened now.
Thank you 🙂
@Tifididl - if it is accepted then we don't have anything to argue about but I think that point of this article is that the agreement isn't accepted...
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" yes you did fight for phoenix, but only because it was in your interest and because phoenix was fighting for your liberation "
Personnally, I help you because you are our allies, because I want to thank you to help us and because I don't like EDEN.
@Tifididl
"That we have anotehr wood regions isn't an argument"
It certainly is an argument France doesn't even have enough land workers for 1 wood region what do you hope to do with 2? o.0
You should at least give it to Hungary to help them and Phoenix get some of the gold they spent to free "you" back...